Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:22 PM
flibbitygiblets (7,220 posts)
Fraternal Order of Police Endorses Trump
Source: Newsweek
In a tweet, the National Fraternal Order of Police, which represents over 350,000 members, made the announcement Friday. The endorsement is the latest that the president, a staunch advocate for law enforcement, has received recently from police-related organizations as he looks to defeat Democratic rival Joe Biden in the upcoming November election. The support came amid nationwide protests in the last few months about systemic racism and police brutality following the death of George Floyd, a Black man, in Minneapolis while in police custody. In July, the National Association of Police Organizations (NAPO) gave its stamp of approval for the president. In a statement, NAPO President Michael McHale wrote: "Our endorsement recognizes your steadfast and very public support for our men and women on the front lines, especially during this time of unfair and inaccurate opprobrium being directed at our members by so many." The following month, the Police Benevolent Association of the City of New York, also backed Trump. "Many times, people say that a union like ours, law enforcement groups, give endorsements," NYC PBA President Patrick Lynch told Trump during an appearance at the president's golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. "Not in the New York City PBA, sir. In the New York City PBA, sir, you earn the endorsement and you've earned this endorsement. I'm proud to give it." Another law enforcement union in New York, the New York State Troopers Police Benevolent Association, gave Trump an endorsement. Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/fraternal-order-police-endorses-trump-president-positions-himself-law-order-candidate-1529785 I guess this is what we're down to. Do we want a police state or not?
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flibbitygiblets | Sep 2020 | OP |
JustABozoOnThisBus | Sep 2020 | #1 | |
PNW-Dem | Sep 2020 | #2 | |
Iliyah | Sep 2020 | #3 | |
ForgoTheConsequence | Sep 2020 | #36 | |
LiberalFighter | Sep 2020 | #4 | |
GoneOffShore | Sep 2020 | #9 | |
Illumination | Sep 2020 | #64 | |
PSPS | Sep 2020 | #5 | |
SharonClark | Sep 2020 | #6 | |
pwb | Sep 2020 | #7 | |
GoneOffShore | Sep 2020 | #10 | |
CTyankee | Sep 2020 | #74 | |
Sinistrous | Sep 2020 | #61 | |
bucolic_frolic | Sep 2020 | #8 | |
StClone | Sep 2020 | #62 | |
NCjack | Sep 2020 | #11 | |
PatSeg | Sep 2020 | #41 | |
dalton99a | Sep 2020 | #12 | |
bamagal62 | Sep 2020 | #13 | |
otchmoson | Sep 2020 | #29 | |
List left | Sep 2020 | #33 | |
bluestarone | Sep 2020 | #14 | |
thucythucy | Sep 2020 | #15 | |
milestogo | Sep 2020 | #16 | |
mnhtnbb | Sep 2020 | #17 | |
LiberalFighter | Sep 2020 | #66 | |
regnaD kciN | Sep 2020 | #18 | |
ffr | Sep 2020 | #49 | |
LiberalLovinLug | Sep 2020 | #19 | |
ffr | Sep 2020 | #51 | |
bluestarone | Sep 2020 | #20 | |
ancianita | Sep 2020 | #21 | |
MarcA | Sep 2020 | #46 | |
ancianita | Sep 2020 | #47 | |
amb123 | Sep 2020 | #22 | |
Dawson Leery | Sep 2020 | #25 | |
Grokenstein | Sep 2020 | #23 | |
SergeStorms | Sep 2020 | #24 | |
ancianita | Sep 2020 | #48 | |
SergeStorms | Sep 2020 | #67 | |
flibbitygiblets | Sep 2020 | #26 | |
Mr.Bill | Sep 2020 | #63 | |
catbyte | Sep 2020 | #27 | |
Normanart | Sep 2020 | #28 | |
BumRushDaShow | Sep 2020 | #34 | |
ancianita | Sep 2020 | #50 | |
BumRushDaShow | Sep 2020 | #53 | |
ancianita | Sep 2020 | #54 | |
EarlG | Sep 2020 | #30 | |
BumRushDaShow | Sep 2020 | #31 | |
ResistantAmerican17 | Sep 2020 | #32 | |
llashram | Sep 2020 | #35 | |
Miguelito Loveless | Sep 2020 | #37 | |
ForgoTheConsequence | Sep 2020 | #38 | |
rockfordfile | Sep 2020 | #39 | |
VA_Jill | Sep 2020 | #40 | |
CaptainTruth | Sep 2020 | #42 | |
AllaN01Bear | Sep 2020 | #43 | |
spike jones | Sep 2020 | #44 | |
Nitram | Sep 2020 | #45 | |
yaesu | Sep 2020 | #52 | |
bluestarone | Sep 2020 | #55 | |
bluestarone | Sep 2020 | #56 | |
Bondor | Sep 2020 | #57 | |
Turbineguy | Sep 2020 | #58 | |
Cobalt Violet | Sep 2020 | #59 | |
rurallib | Sep 2020 | #60 | |
denvine | Sep 2020 | #65 | |
Progressive Jones | Sep 2020 | #68 | |
BigDemVoter | Sep 2020 | #69 | |
Hip2bSquare | Sep 2020 | #70 | |
onetexan | Sep 2020 | #71 | |
Humanist_Activist | Sep 2020 | #72 | |
malthaussen | Sep 2020 | #73 | |
Joinfortmill | Sep 2020 | #75 |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:24 PM
JustABozoOnThisBus (22,777 posts)
1. Well, of course they do. Which candidate will give them a license to kill? nt
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:25 PM
PNW-Dem (244 posts)
2. That says it all
Scumbags
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:25 PM
Iliyah (25,111 posts)
3. Just like any endorsement, that doesn't mean they all will vote . .
for shithole. Actually many will not.
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Response to Iliyah (Reply #3)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:26 PM
ForgoTheConsequence (4,757 posts)
36. Most will.
If you believe otherwise, you're insane.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:25 PM
LiberalFighter (45,540 posts)
4. They don't care about the people they are suppose to serve and protect.
Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:30 PM
GoneOffShore (16,869 posts)
9. They only protect themselves and serve their own interests.
And 'Not all cops'? Bullshit. |
Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:08 PM
Illumination (2,458 posts)
64. Right! Seems to me it could have lots to do with the fact they're afraid of being defunded & losing
their jobs. So then it's about $ & supporting an impeached president? Wow! We are truly in some
insane times! |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:25 PM
PSPS (12,879 posts)
5. No surprise. Cop unions are awash in cash and run by III-percenter white supremecists
That's why elected officials cower before them. Their lucre awards them political clout in our broken system.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:26 PM
SharonClark (9,572 posts)
6. How to you conclude that these endorsements have anything to do with a "police state"?
Doesn't it say more about the quality of the people who are drawn to law unforcement that these unions would endorse someone like Trump?
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:26 PM
pwb (9,494 posts)
7. It is official cops are pigs again.
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Response to pwb (Reply #7)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:32 PM
GoneOffShore (16,869 posts)
10. Again? They never changed.
Policing in the US is the natural home for authoritarians and 'Law and Order' types. They have no interest in 'The Rule of Law'.
Confessions of A Former Bastard Cop |
Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #10)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 01:00 PM
CTyankee (61,563 posts)
74. Astonishing piece, GOS!
Thank you for this riveting experience. After all the dreck we are reading every day in the major newspapers, THIS gets to the essence of what we are dealing with and why change has to be made at the top. It must be done if there is to be any peace to our lives.
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Response to pwb (Reply #7)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 07:07 PM
Sinistrous (4,249 posts)
61. Oooh! Be careful.
The pearl clutchers will rap your knuckles for using that less than complementary term for the pohleese people.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:27 PM
bucolic_frolic (36,018 posts)
8. They endorse a crook?
crazy
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #8)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:35 PM
StClone (11,477 posts)
62. Why not they have been known to shoot unarmed people
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:35 PM
NCjack (10,114 posts)
11. FOP just answered my lingering questions. It is an organization mainly for the purpose of
protecting guilty cops.
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Response to NCjack (Reply #11)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:49 PM
PatSeg (44,881 posts)
41. I think it is time to dismantle police unions
and perhaps start over again from scratch.
And meanwhile, perhaps police should be required to remain apolitical like the military. It is insane for them to get involved in politics, except as individuals in their private lives. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:36 PM
dalton99a (74,317 posts)
12. Assholes endorsed Asshole in 2016
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:36 PM
bamagal62 (2,636 posts)
13. I can't wait for them
To call me again to ask for a donation. I think they called my husband a couple of months ago. There won’t just be a hang up in their future. We will engage!!!
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Response to bamagal62 (Reply #13)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:02 PM
otchmoson (54 posts)
29. Exactly!
My thoughts, exactly. Thanks for saying it for me (and hopefully lots of others!)
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Response to bamagal62 (Reply #13)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:19 PM
List left (583 posts)
33. My first thought as well. nt
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:38 PM
bluestarone (14,697 posts)
14. After Joe wins we will ONE by ONE
Get rid of the BAD COPS!!!
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:43 PM
thucythucy (7,321 posts)
15. Trump is "a staunch advocate for law enforcement"?
Give me a break.
If anything he's a staunch advocate for himself and his partners in grift being entirely above the law. If he was an actual advocate of law enforcement he would have given himself up to the proper authorities decades ago. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:45 PM
milestogo (14,466 posts)
16. Not helping themselves.
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:45 PM
mnhtnbb (30,487 posts)
17. Next time they call wanting money, guess what I'll tell them?
Go ask your buddy, the con man.
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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #17)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:21 PM
LiberalFighter (45,540 posts)
66. I never donate to those creeps.
Consider the following:
1) The money is also used for lobbying. 2) They don't refer themselves as a labor union. It is police association or FOP. 3) Labor unions - real labor unions do not solicit donations to help support their members from the general public like FOP or other related police groups. 4) Labor unions derived support for members in need from their own members. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:47 PM
regnaD kciN (25,612 posts)
18. BREAKING NEWS: Gestapo endorses Hitler
...because of course they do.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:47 PM
LiberalLovinLug (13,681 posts)
19. So the enforcers of law and order
endorse a career criminal and traitor. Got it.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:48 PM
bluestarone (14,697 posts)
20. SAD part is they endorsed him even AFTER
RUMP said what he said about ALL our veterans!!
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:49 PM
ancianita (30,802 posts)
21. It's easy to defund police. Fire all of them. Make them re-apply for their jobs with new
pre-conditions for employment. Any qualified immunity they want must be re-earned based on the first two year's service records. If there's community filed complaints of undue force, no raise, no promotion. Either serve and protect or GTFO.
If they don't want those terms they can go join their beloved leader's white supremacist hate militias. Then the blue line won't exist anymore. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #21)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:23 PM
MarcA (2,141 posts)
46. That may be what some of them and their $pon$er$ want.
Abolish any well regulated police departments, or attempts at same, and replace them
with unregulated hate militias and blackwater orgs. |
Response to MarcA (Reply #46)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:28 PM
ancianita (30,802 posts)
47. I'm talking about transforming police departments, not doing what militias want.
The fire-rehire model has been tried and improves policing and community safety.
Whoever gets sifted out should honestly declare their neonazi allegiance instead of hiding it behind a badge like lying cowards. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:53 PM
amb123 (1,550 posts)
22. Order of Future Concentration Camp Guards & Secret State Policemen Endorses Dear Leader.
Not surprised at all. All these Police Protective Leagues, Benevolent Associations and Unions are breeding grounds for Fascists. Law enforcement needs to be prohibited from ever organizing or joining any such groups.
As Calvin Coolidge said when, as Massachusetts Governor he put down the Boston Police Strike in 1919, "There is no right to strike against the public safety by anyone, anywhere, anytime." And that's what they're doing by endorsing Traitor Trump. |
Response to amb123 (Reply #22)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:56 PM
Dawson Leery (19,326 posts)
25. Everything you said.
Coolidge also opposed the idea of having law enforcement make the laws where law enforcement gives themselves more work while denying the freedom to others.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:53 PM
Grokenstein (5,443 posts)
23. The true Enemy of the People, declared.
"Unfair and inaccurate opprobrium," huh? Poor babies. I'm struggling to recall the last time an unarmed cop got asphyxiated in the street.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:55 PM
SergeStorms (18,185 posts)
24. Wow. I'm shocked.
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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #24)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:32 PM
ancianita (30,802 posts)
48. They're lying coward fascists hiding behind a badge.
Response to ancianita (Reply #48)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 12:12 AM
SergeStorms (18,185 posts)
67. Don't sugar-coat it like that, ancianita....
tell us how you really feel.
![]() I feel exactly the same way. They enjoy having the power over people's life and death, and they don't want to lose that power. I know a lot of ex-Cops, and if there's one thing they miss it's exercising that power over people. Most of them should never have had that power bestowed upon them. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:57 PM
flibbitygiblets (7,220 posts)
26. The names of some of these Police unions! SMDH
Are women allowed to join the "Fraternal Order of Police" ? (Also, "FOP" ? Seriously??? )
And the Police Benevolent Association of City of New York? They call themselves that with a straight face? |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #26)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:03 PM
Mr.Bill (20,149 posts)
63. They are benevolent to the Police. n/t
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:00 PM
catbyte (31,945 posts)
27. What a shocker. My dad was a cop for 30 years & he despised FOP.
It's just one of the reasons he never got a promotion. I miss my dad.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:01 PM
Normanart (276 posts)
28. Stop calling 911
The police are not going to help you if you are black, and you donʻt need their help if you are white.
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Response to Normanart (Reply #28)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:19 PM
BumRushDaShow (109,676 posts)
34. And there's a song about that too
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #34)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:33 PM
ancianita (30,802 posts)
50. Great post! Thanks!
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Response to ancianita (Reply #50)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:44 PM
BumRushDaShow (109,676 posts)
53. Those NYCers have a way with words
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #53)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:47 PM
ancianita (30,802 posts)
54. Mos' def
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:10 PM
EarlG (20,193 posts)
30. "...the president, a staunch advocate for law enforcement..."
HA HA HA.
Sure — unless you’re talking about himself or his friends and family, in which case it’s, “The law? What’s that???” |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:16 PM
BumRushDaShow (109,676 posts)
31. They always endorse the GOP candidates
even in "blue" cities like mine.
I expect our chapter of the Guardian Civic League (organization of black police officers) will formally protest this and will express support for Joe Biden like they did for Hillary Clinton back in 2016. (as a note, the FOP supposedly endorsed Bill Clinton in a departure from their usual GOP focus and neglected to endorse Rmoney, another rare aberration) |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:19 PM
ResistantAmerican17 (2,934 posts)
32. Fascists see fascists do.
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:23 PM
llashram (5,911 posts)
35. so the police associations
and their members don't give a damn about vets either. But wait it's the police dept's that many vets apply to when they get home. Many vets are the police. I don't get it. Why would so many of them be so racist? It's not just old school racist cops, the videos show young cops. I guess these associations are banking on trump to save them when he's reelected. They've bought into the lie of defunding and restraint in arrests of unarmed people. And no matter what police reform is necessary now to stop all these unwarranted and racist shootings and killings of unarmed African-Americans.
And don't get me wrong all police are on a tear these days. Police retraining in non-lethal restraint. That's a start if they will abide by it. So much is wrong. And is it just me but all this huge uptick in unwarranted killings didn't start until the republican wars started and the troops started rotating home to civilian lives.. 9/11. Then trump comes into the picture as "law and order" guy. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:28 PM
Miguelito Loveless (4,193 posts)
37. We are already a de facto police state
The police in this country murder with impunity and without repercussion.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:29 PM
ForgoTheConsequence (4,757 posts)
38. Fascist organization.
During the 1960s the FOP opposed the creation of police review boards, spearheaded by Robert F. Kennedy, at one point describing them as a "sinister movement against law enforcement". The FOP also clashed with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on the issue of police brutality, seeing it as a "liberal attempt to discredit law enforcement". The Order was "heartened by Richard Nixon's emphasis on law and order", though it claimed to remain strictly apolitical.
"NOT ALL COPS" "JUST A FEW BAD APPLES" BACK THE BLUE" Fuck em'. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:30 PM
rockfordfile (8,584 posts)
39. It just shows those who lead that group are corrupt
There are a lot of good police officers in our country. But if you endorse a traitor, corrupt and racist that makes you that.
The same goes for any endorsement of those pos GOP Senators. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:38 PM
VA_Jill (7,575 posts)
40. No surprise
The FOP are all fascists.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:49 PM
CaptainTruth (5,621 posts)
42. Trump is "a staunch advocate for law enforcement"???
If you look at the court cases involving Trump's finances, all his Hatch Act violations, etc it looks like Trump is a staunch OPPONENT of law enforcement, at least when the law is being applied to him. |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:01 PM
AllaN01Bear (11,347 posts)
43. any time from now on, if i ever , ever get one of these cops begging for money,
bang ,instant hang up from me. i dont like the way they spend my money to endorse the orange fool.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:16 PM
spike jones (1,295 posts)
44. Blue Knights
Last year. I saw a sticker on a car Blue Knights International then found the web site. The club probably does good stuff, but how “ironic” that the police who have been historically associated with the White Knights of the KKK would name their motorcycle club The Blue Knights.
https://blueknights.org/ |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nitram (20,314 posts)
45. The Fraternal Order of Police have just revealed their determination to continue to abuse
power and punish minorities and protestors with raw violence. The police have long been under the protection of the law, the courts, and the rest of the system no matter what they do. They will fight tooth and nail to hang onto that advantage. I suggest the police deserve no quarter. Repeal their legal immunity and clean up every police unit in the country. A purge is needed - one based on police records and reports of malfeasance.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:35 PM
yaesu (7,753 posts)
52. well, we now know 350,000 cops are fascist pigs. nt
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:55 PM
bluestarone (14,697 posts)
55. Be ready for the Sheriffs across the US. to do the SAME!!!
I know it's coming!!!!
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 06:16 PM
bluestarone (14,697 posts)
56. I'd like to see a
ROLL call vote!!!!
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 06:27 PM
Bondor (61 posts)
57. Boycott!!
They ask for money, "no soup for you!" - This is an offensive endorsement for which the police should pay the cost.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 06:37 PM
Turbineguy (35,805 posts)
58. I like police
that are champions of the law.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 06:50 PM
Cobalt Violet (9,855 posts)
59. "men and women on the front line" What front line is that?
So this is a war.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 06:58 PM
rurallib (60,468 posts)
60. Wonder how police that were in the service feel about Trump right now?
You would think they could figure out that they are just pawns in Trump's power grab.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:09 PM
denvine (773 posts)
65. I know there are some good cops out there, but
The police Union really have shown their true colors. Fuck the police union. I have absolutely no respect for them, I do for some individual policemen but their union is run by a bunch of white supremacist assholes. If the police want to salvage their reputations, they need to clean their house.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 12:26 AM
Progressive Jones (6,011 posts)
68. Who cares? The people will always outnumber the police, and rightly so. nt
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 12:45 AM
BigDemVoter (4,104 posts)
69. Fucking pigs. . . . .
I guess they resent the fact that they got interrupted while stuffing their pie holes with donuts.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 09:28 AM
Hip2bSquare (291 posts)
70. Russian bounty's on our troops are ok...
just as long as the FOP can keep their bounty's on black Americans.
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 09:44 AM
onetexan (11,707 posts)
71. i wonder how many of the FOP are racists, just like their Chief 45
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 09:47 AM
Humanist_Activist (7,670 posts)
72. National violent white supremacist gang endorses Donald Trump, is this any surprise? n/t
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 12:42 PM
malthaussen (15,869 posts)
73. "A staunch advocate for law enforcement."
Are they mental? Oh, Newsweek, how you have fallen.
-- Mal |
Response to flibbitygiblets (Original post)
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 01:29 PM
Joinfortmill (10,607 posts)