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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:10 AM Sep 2020

The Trump campaign played a song about rich kids dodging the Vietnam War draft -- which the president

Source: Business Insider

The Trump campaign played a song about rich kids dodging the Vietnam War draft — which the president did 5 times — at a Michigan rally

Alexandra Ma 1 hour ago

President Donald Trump's campaign played a song about rich people dodging the Vietnam War draft — which Trump did five times — as the president disembarked his plane for a rally in Michigan.

The 1969 song "Fortunate Son," by Creedence Clearwater Revival, blared as Air Force One arrived to crowds of Trump supporters at MBS International Airport in Freeland, Michigan, on Thursday.




The song is sung from the perspective of young men drafted to fight in the Vietnam War who didn't have the powerful connections to avoid going.

As the lyrics say: "Some folks are born silver spoon in hand / Lord, don't they help themselves, no ... It ain't me, it ain't me / I ain't no millionaire's son."

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-michigan-rally-plays-fortunate-son-song-avoiding-vietnam-war-2020-9
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The Trump campaign played a song about rich kids dodging the Vietnam War draft -- which the president (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2020 OP
the next song (village people "macho man") was almost as ironic. rampartc Sep 2020 #1
Did they really play Macho Man? LeftInTX Sep 2020 #62
I think they do this intentionally Docreed2003 Sep 2020 #2
Absolutely they do! chowder66 Sep 2020 #60
Even the title "Fortunate Son" gives away the content. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #66
What's next? 'You're So Vain' ?? C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #3
Maybe "Sympathy for the Devil" Harker Sep 2020 #10
With all due respect to Mama Thornton, Elvis's Hound Dog RVN VET71 Sep 2020 #12
The Man Who Sold the World? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #23
A tribute to Covid: Hot Blooded. CaptYossarian Sep 2020 #26
"Chain Gang" ... marble falls Sep 2020 #31
"Hello, Dad. I'm in Jail" jayschool2013 Sep 2020 #33
"Say hi to mom; FROM JAIL!" Codeine Sep 2020 #74
Poor Poor Pitiful Me Poor Poor Pitiful Me rpannier Sep 2020 #39
Stevie Wonder - You Haven't done Nothin' DeeNice Sep 2020 #41
Good choice nuxvomica Sep 2020 #61
Carly's political version of it, specially for him catrose Sep 2020 #47
Love it! Bayard Sep 2020 #68
my fave! catrose Sep 2020 #69
"Your face it was apricot" --oh, she's good Hekate Sep 2020 #71
SMH Solly Mack Sep 2020 #4
Someone knew exactly what the song said...my hats off to you ashredux Sep 2020 #5
In the same vain as Born in the USA Aviation Pro Sep 2020 #6
Fucking freak show...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Sep 2020 #7
I have to wonder if there is someone in the campaign clever enough TNNurse Sep 2020 #8
there could be. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #9
I wonder if any of Trump's collaborators will flee the country before the election? I guess they brewens Sep 2020 #11
well, there are a lot of empty condos that are sorta owned by the family. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #17
I think they know that Putin, having gotten what he wanted from them, won't have any further brewens Sep 2020 #55
prolly true. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #56
Not to worry. Jared will be just fine. 3Hotdogs Sep 2020 #16
yeah. except they cant spend it in prison. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #18
He never got dragged into anything. marble falls Sep 2020 #32
Their ignorance is jaw-dropping!! dlk Sep 2020 #13
Yes... DemUnleashed Sep 2020 #14
You've got that right. So damned out of place. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #19
As Someone Who Lost a Family Member in Vietnam... McKim Sep 2020 #15
So sorry to hear that. Unbearable shock. Best wishes to you and your loved ones. The grief remains. Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #22
As someone who fought in Vietnam, dware Sep 2020 #28
Hoo-rah! Ingersollman Sep 2020 #57
Army Strong Ingersollman!!! dware Sep 2020 #75
this times two llashram Sep 2020 #59
Fortunate Son... TomVilmer Sep 2020 #20
Notable that several of our last losing Presidential candidates match the verses in the song, except greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #30
... and still no real war resisters in that office TomVilmer Sep 2020 #36
Agreed greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #65
Some on the right think it was written about Al Gore Maeve Sep 2020 #21
Thank you for posting this! LaMouffette Sep 2020 #24
Glad you mentioned that "dumb" insult he used, particularly when he wanted to attack Jeff Sessions. Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #25
Tom Petty I won't Back Down Neil Young Rockin in the Free World ALBliberal Sep 2020 #27
Because the campaign is so clueless, they probably won't CaptYossarian Sep 2020 #29
I'm ready for some prison blues for orange julius and his cabal. Or chain gang. Either way. Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #34
Irony, shmirony ... tgenerico Sep 2020 #35
Either that or someone is playing with Trump. gordianot Sep 2020 #44
These repuke asssouls make me sick. MasonDreams Sep 2020 #37
Kick burrowowl Sep 2020 #38
OMFG! jayfish Sep 2020 #40
It looks like prior to playing the video that they are all doing the Nazi salute turbinetree Sep 2020 #42
if u do the zig heil salute openly in germany, it gets u a instant ticket to jail. AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #45
Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Sep 2020 #46
this one ? AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #43
Satire is dead. MissLilyBart Sep 2020 #48
Trump was never an anti-war president and yet his dumb base believes every single lie BeckyDem Sep 2020 #49
NOW speaknow Sep 2020 #50
WTF? McCamy Taylor Sep 2020 #51
Omg! WOW!! Duppers Sep 2020 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Illumination Sep 2020 #53
"Ship of Fools" by World Party reminds us of his supporters & the Lake Travis (TX) debacle!... Illumination Sep 2020 #54
looking at the people in the tweet llashram Sep 2020 #58
Fitting. calimary Sep 2020 #63
Trump is a traitor to this republic, Judi. Just a sick, disgusting, hateful, hurtful traitor. PatrickforO Sep 2020 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author musclecar6 Sep 2020 #67
He does it right out in the open, always has. Just think of that lap dance 12/13 year old Ivanka... Hekate Sep 2020 #70
THAT kind of stupidity deserves special recognition. czarjak Sep 2020 #72
Next they'll be playing "Deportees" by Woody Guthrie klook Sep 2020 #73
Deplorable dipshits in Trump's events could care less. Cult45 is mesmerized. oasis Sep 2020 #76

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
2. I think they do this intentionally
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:19 AM
Sep 2020

Just like when they played Guns and Roses' version of "Live and Let Die" when he visited the mask factory in Arizona. I don't think Trump is smart enough to pull off that level of trolling but he certainly has people around him who are. This is likely viewed by them as "owning the libs".

chowder66

(9,055 posts)
60. Absolutely they do!
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:44 AM
Sep 2020

They used ‘Rockin’ In The Free World’ at the 4th of July event at Mount Rushmore. This was the anti-mask freedom rally. Get it? 'Free World'!

They used ‘It’s the End of the World as We Know It’ at a rally to oppose the Iran deal.

They used 'Livin on the Edge' by Aerosmith where he spoke about immigration.

They used 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' by the Rolling Stones at numerous rallies, many mentioning the wall... basically mocking his supporters that everything he promises is bullshit.

This is about 'telling the underhanded truth' to his supporters though they are too stupid to get it.

There are a couple of others that I don't get but it just may be as simple as he simply likes the songs.... like from Adele.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
12. With all due respect to Mama Thornton, Elvis's Hound Dog
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:49 AM
Sep 2020

is actually very close to spot on:

You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
You ain't nothin' but a hound dog
Cryin' all the time
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
And you ain't no friend of mine

Well they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Yeah they said you was high-classed
Well, that was just a lie
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit
And you ain't no friend of mine

But there are so many songs that should rub the idiot in chief the wrong way -- if only he had horses in his genius stable.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
8. I have to wonder if there is someone in the campaign clever enough
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:31 AM
Sep 2020

to do these things to show how clueless the rest are....nah, probably not.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
9. there could be.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:34 AM
Sep 2020

maybe it's jared. he cant be happy he got dragged into this shit show. i am sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. but i dont think he is stupid enough to not realize he is going to prison after nov.

brewens

(13,539 posts)
11. I wonder if any of Trump's collaborators will flee the country before the election? I guess they
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:47 AM
Sep 2020

would have until he leaves office. It might be tough no matter how wealthy they are. They can't cash everything out that easily, and find a country willing to take them and let them keep it all. Plus not many of them are actually good at anything. It would be hard to make it elsewhere.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
17. well, there are a lot of empty condos that are sorta owned by the family.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:17 AM
Sep 2020

tho for how long is anyone's guess.
i wouldnt be surprised if a bunch of them headed for russia, or some other hellhole where they have been laundering/hiding money.

brewens

(13,539 posts)
55. I think they know that Putin, having gotten what he wanted from them, won't have any further
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:10 AM
Sep 2020

use for them. The term suckers and losers comes to mind. I don't think anyone they were in cahoots with will give a shit what happens to them.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
56. prolly true.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:18 AM
Sep 2020

and they dont own any of their branded properties.
i predict there wont be a building on the planet w that brand w/in the year.

maybe they own a few units in indonesia they could hide in.

3Hotdogs

(12,330 posts)
16. Not to worry. Jared will be just fine.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:10 AM
Sep 2020

He and Princess Sparkle Pony grifted millions out of their White House stint.

DemUnleashed

(633 posts)
14. Yes...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:55 AM
Sep 2020

Yes...I also think they do this kind of thing on purpose (or they're absolutely so self-unaware!)

Didn't they play "You Can't Always Get What You Want" after he got elected?? Excuse me??! Are you admitting that no one wanted you but we got stuck with you anyway?!

McKim

(2,412 posts)
15. As Someone Who Lost a Family Member in Vietnam...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:05 AM
Sep 2020

As someone who lost her brother in law in Vietnam I am outraged beyond words. His poor followers have been told all their lives that they don’t count in this society. They are not part of the Silicon Valley crowd and they don’t read The NY Times. They grew up under education and government cuts and got the short shrift. There is something deeply disturbing about his die hard followers, (pun intended).

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
22. So sorry to hear that. Unbearable shock. Best wishes to you and your loved ones. The grief remains.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:32 AM
Sep 2020

Look how far we have not come since then, too!

Thanks, McKim.

dware

(12,250 posts)
28. As someone who fought in Vietnam,
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:03 AM
Sep 2020

it abuses my senses that this orange POS is even president.

Him and Romney were both draft dodgers, while I was doing my dead level best to stay alive, Trump and Romney were partying it up and just having a good old time.

I'll be willing to bet that most of his deranged followers have never served a day in the military, much less combat, except for those video games, like Call of Duty, etc.

What most of these so called wannabe warriors fail to realize is that there are literally hundreds of thousands of us liberals/progressives that are combat vets and are not afraid of defending our selves and families/friends, but if we're pushed hard enough, then they are in for a very rude awaking.

I truly hope it doesn't reach that point, but, IMHO, we're on the brink.

Ingersollman

(204 posts)
57. Hoo-rah!
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:26 AM
Sep 2020

dware.

Army vet here, but agree completely with what you're saying. Your motto is "Semper Fidelis", Always Faithful. One of the units I was in, our motto was "Semper Paratus", Always Ready.

Stay vigilant, my friend.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
20. Fortunate Son...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:22 AM
Sep 2020


Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays Hail to the Chief
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, no
But when the taxman come' to the door
Lord, the house lookin' like a rummage sale, yeah
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no millionaire's son, no no
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah, Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer "More, more, more!"
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no military son, son, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one, no
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
30. Notable that several of our last losing Presidential candidates match the verses in the song, except
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:07 AM
Sep 2020

Al Gore was a Senator's son. He went to Vietnam.

John Kerry was born wealthy. He went to Vietnam.

John McCain came from a distinguished military family; his father was Commander in Chief, US Pacific Fleet. He went to Vietnam.

Weird. No Vietnam veteran ever became President, and likely now none ever will.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
36. ... and still no real war resisters in that office
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:38 AM
Sep 2020
The difference is that draft-dodging is an act of avoiding personal responsibility, while war resistance is an act of accepting and embracing responsibility, done in solidarity with the struggle of others and in the name of a higher principle than self-interest.
http://www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=351

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
21. Some on the right think it was written about Al Gore
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:32 AM
Sep 2020

Altho he served in Vietnam---but it was really written about David Eisenhower (who also served in the military). Still, some of them think they are owning the libs with this one (they are just making fools of themselves, tho)
Fogerty signed away the rights to CCR's music and so it has become the "go to" music for the Vietnam era and I suspect that in some minds it is invoked to remind people of the anti-war protests and rioting of the late 60's and early 70's
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/how-creedence-clearwater-revival-became-the-soundtrack-to-every-vietnam-movie/

LaMouffette

(2,020 posts)
24. Thank you for posting this!
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:44 AM
Sep 2020

I would not be at all surprised that Jared, or some other wise ass working in the Trump campaign, is putting these ironic songs out there on purpose. Well aware of the true meaning of the lyrics, it's their version of "shooting someone on 5th Avenue" and getting away with it. They are counting on the stupidity of Trump's base. They know the "UN-Fortunate Sons" in the shoulder-to-shoulder Trump-supporting crowds at the rallies will sing right along and continue to have a rollicking good time.

Yup. They're doing it on purpose. They think it's hilarious.

If only someone would unearth an audiotape of Trump and his family saying what they really think about Trump's base. But sadly, they would still love him. They sure didn't care when he called Southerners "dumb."

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
25. Glad you mentioned that "dumb" insult he used, particularly when he wanted to attack Jeff Sessions.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:52 AM
Sep 2020

Good example of how deeply impaired his inbred brain-dead suck-up base actually is.

They just live for his remarks like "I love the undereducated," I'm sure.

Thanks.

ALBliberal

(2,334 posts)
27. Tom Petty I won't Back Down Neil Young Rockin in the Free World
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 08:57 AM
Sep 2020

followed immediately with cease and desist letters etc. from Petty Family and Young.

They have no good music! Our side has the best and and of course they do play it intentionally.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
29. Because the campaign is so clueless, they probably won't
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:03 AM
Sep 2020

get a cease and desist letter from John Fogerty or Fantasy Records (or whomever owns the CCR stuff by now). They'll just sit back and have the biggest laugh from it.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
37. These repuke asssouls make me sick.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:48 AM
Sep 2020

Al Gore didn't have to go, but he did 'cause he was dedicated to doing the right thing.
John Kerry went, and got shot. No respect, just jeers from jackals.
Max Cleland left three limbs on the battlefield and they question his patriotism.

suckers and losers? This is how your "leader" describes those who gave the last full measure of devotion? I can't keep up.

These people drank the kool-aid with lead, mercury and syphilis a long time ago.

jayfish

(10,037 posts)
40. OMFG!
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:54 AM
Sep 2020

When I read the thread title I giggled to myself, "'Fortunate Son' would have been perfect". AND THAT"S WHAT IT WAS?

Dumbest MFers on the planet!

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
42. It looks like prior to playing the video that they are all doing the Nazi salute
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 09:58 AM
Sep 2020

all you have to do is remove the phones...................

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
49. Trump was never an anti-war president and yet his dumb base believes every single lie
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:04 AM
Sep 2020

and misrepresentation he throws at them.

I listened to his rally on c-span last night. He is trying to portray himself as a victim of Woodward and a no war president.

There is NO peace in the Middle East, and he has made sure of that.

speaknow

(321 posts)
50. NOW
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:06 AM
Sep 2020

That piece of human garbage has insulted ridiculed
and now mocks the Nam Vet. Where the F--k are
the officer's to stand up for the Vet. Everybody
that's wears a military uniform should just walk
off what they are doing and refuse to come back
until that bastard RESIGNS ! Show him your strength.
To that Cowardly PUKE!

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

llashram

(6,265 posts)
58. looking at the people in the tweet
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:27 AM
Sep 2020

all I can see is a maskless crowd of trump's base who reminded me, people followed Hitler into perdition, why should some Americans be any different. Clueless, ignorant drinkers of fox news propaganda and McEnanny lies. Emphasis on nanny.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
63. Fitting.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 11:39 AM
Sep 2020

The lyrics fit perfectly. As thought they were written about trump. Did Fogerty ever meet him?

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
64. Trump is a traitor to this republic, Judi. Just a sick, disgusting, hateful, hurtful traitor.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 11:57 AM
Sep 2020

Funny he should play this at a rally.

I guess beside sick, disgusting, hateful, hurtful and treasonous, he is also STUPID.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
70. He does it right out in the open, always has. Just think of that lap dance 12/13 year old Ivanka...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 12:58 PM
Sep 2020

...did. There’s photos. Everyone pretending this really is not happening, because it can’t be happening, except one man who is staring, shocked and immobile.

He is an inhuman monster, and he glories in shoving it in people’s faces.

klook

(12,152 posts)
73. Next they'll be playing "Deportees" by Woody Guthrie
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 10:11 PM
Sep 2020

and “Dear God” by XTC, with some twisted attempt at irony. Maybe the Beatles’ “Happiness Is a Warm Gun” for a bit of extra fun.

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