Start Of Pa. Election On Hold Due To Ballot Delay
Source: KDKA News
(CNN) In the latest sign of the chaos overshadowing the 2020 election, none of Pennsylvanias counties will be able to send out ballots to voters Monday, the first day the critical battleground state allows counties to do so.
Due to a slew of lawsuits and other issues, the commonwealth, which has drawn intense interest from Democrats and Republicans after Junes disastrous primary, has not finalized its ballot less than eight weeks before Election Day.
The states Democratic Party remains in court battling to keep the Green Party off the ballot. The pending legal dispute has led to a delay in certification of the November ballot, and as a result, all Pennsylvania county election officials who this year could have started offering absentee or mail-in ballots, as well as in-person early absentee voting, starting September 14 are in a holding pattern.
Pennsylvania, which President Donald Trump won by less than 1 point in 2016, is just one example of a critical swing state that has come under enhanced scrutiny for elections laws that could further confuse and delay results on Election Day.
Read more: https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/09/13/ballot-delay-in-pa-election/
elleng
(130,728 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,707 posts)I can see this could backfire on Dems big time.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Fish or cut bait; the ballots have to go out!
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Wisconsin and now Pennsylvania?
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)needed, just leave the Green Party on the ballot. Hopefully people have learned from the way that 2016 election ended not to let the Green Party fleece our votes from the Dem candidates.
lastlib
(23,152 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)We get it. Let them do their corrupt little thing; they are an arm of the Government Of Putin (GOP) and pretty much everybody knows it.
Polybius
(15,334 posts)They will cheat if we don't. I have always voted in person and always will. I never could understand why so many Democrats love early voting and now mail-in voting too. Wear a mask, vote in person.
BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)I sure as hell don't. But that is what we have in the city of Philadelphia (since the 2019 General election).
By FRANK BAJAKFebruary 23, 2020
In the rush to replace insecure, unreliable electronic voting machines after Russias interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential race, state and local officials have scrambled to acquire more trustworthy equipment for this years election, when U.S. intelligence agencies fear even worse problems. But instead of choosing simple, hand-marked paper ballots that are most resistant to tampering because paper cannot be hacked, many are opting for pricier technology that computer security experts consider almost as risky as earlier discredited electronic systems.
Called ballot-marking devices, the machines have touchscreens for registering voter choice. Unlike touchscreen-only machines, they print out paper records that are scanned by optical readers. South Carolina voters will use them in Saturdays primary. The most pricey solution available, they are at least twice as expensive as the hand-marked paper ballot option. They have been vigorously promoted by the three voting equipment vendors that control 88 percent of the U.S. market.
Some of the most popular ballot-marking machines, made by industry leaders Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems, register votes in bar codes that the human eye cannot decipher. Thats a problem, researchers say: Voters could end up with printouts that accurately spell out the names of the candidates they picked, but, because of a hack, the bar codes do not reflect those choices. Because the bar codes are whats tabulated, voters would never know that their ballots benefited another candidate.
Even on machines that do not use bar codes, voters may not notice if a hack or programming error mangled their choices. A University of Michigan study determined that only 7 percent of participants in a mock election notified poll workers when the names on their printed receipts did not match the candidates they voted for.
https://apnews.com/ec2374b3f4aa6d8e628b75724cb4caeb
They hand you essentially a blank strip of paper that you feed into the machine and you can't "touch" it to review once you are done (nor was there any top or back lighting on it - at least at my polling location - once it was printed and displayed in the chute) -
I voted by mail for the (moved to) June 2nd primary and HAND MARKED my ballot, mailed it, and tracked it all the way through to confirmation of it being counted. There is no way to "HAND MARK" an ES&S ballot.
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)I requested paper ballot when I went to vote, and conveniently the printer they used to print the paper ballots wasn't operational
BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)I sent it back right away and it was registered.
And last year, what happened here in PA, was when counties were directed to get a voting process with a verified paper trail, Philly metro and its surrounding counties, that generally had the same types of "membrane" machines, went their own ways, so some have the fill-in-the-oval and feed the ballot into the scanner yourself at the polling site types and Philly went with those damn ES&S touchscreen machines, where your ballot disappears into the machine - despite the protest from many groups and some lawsuits.
Our election board's concern supposedly was that they were more "handicapped accessible" (they come with a joystick to navigate through the screen pages and select candidates/question responses for those needing one) and supposedly would be a better transition in terms of "look", compared to the previous flat membrane/push button panel voting machines that we had previously -
But the problem is ES&S.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I will hand-deliver my absentee ballot the day it arrives.
Not everybody is going to feel safe voting; many will be subjected to artificially long lines or GOP intimidators. If you tell those people their vote won't count unless they endanger themselves, they might just not bother, and you've just helped Trump win.
PatrickforO
(14,558 posts)Damn.
How long are all these lawsuits going to go on?
jorgevlorgan
(8,278 posts)Greedy means
onetexan
(13,020 posts)jorgevlorgan
(8,278 posts)Then fuck them some more.
lastlib
(23,152 posts)An old rusty, manure-encrusted, virus- and tetanus-infected pitchfork. Sideways.
jorgevlorgan
(8,278 posts)I'm having trouble figuring out who is a more pervasive threat to humanity at this point: the green party or Donald Trump.
Lulu KC
(2,560 posts)It's almost like they don't want us to vote or something, eh? And the Green Party/GOP thing. Argh. So good that Joe's adding to his Legal Room. We will need them.