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aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 10:09 AM Sep 2020

Trump thinks he gets to be president of just the Republican states: But they're a total mess

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Source: Salon


Donald Trump and Republican States (Photo illustration by Salon/Getty Images)

What do the poorest and least educated states in the nation have in common? Take a wild guess, Mr. President

September 15, 2020 12:00PM (UTC)

Donald Trump appears to be seceding from the Union, which is bizarre given his status as the president of it. Make no mistake: Trump appears to be deliberately marginalizing himself by repeatedly insisting that he's not responsible for certain states and cities, despite technically being the president of the entire United States.

We've all heard him say it. On topics ranging from poverty to crime to COVID-19, Trump never hesitates to defer all the blame for whatever onto state and local Democrats rather than acknowledging that he's supposed to be the president of those cities and states, too.

Earlier this year, for example, Trump tweeted, "The homeless situation in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and many other Democrat Party run cities throughout the Nation is a state and local problem, not a federal problem." Trump, of course, is the president of those cities, and has been for nearly four years. Has he proposed any national solutions to the homelessness problem? Nope. He's simply seceding himself from those cities.
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Read more: https://www.salon.com/2020/09/15/trump-thinks-he-gets-to-be-president-of-just-the-republican-states-so-how-are-they-doing/



Red states take.
Blue states give

I like that Texas is upside-down! True to life.
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Trump thinks he gets to be president of just the Republican states: But they're a total mess (Original Post) aggiesal Sep 2020 OP
Poor and uneducated is just how the GOP likes their states. Greg K Sep 2020 #1
Yup. N/t Karma13612 Sep 2020 #6
"...like a malicious tween boy who shakes up an ant farm..." JohnnyRingo Sep 2020 #2
if only we could limit bluestate taxes to just bluestates, the problems would be resolve beachbumbob Sep 2020 #3
Lets hope that Trumps ego driven blabbering finally does him in!! riversedge Sep 2020 #4
Thanks for the link! Karma13612 Sep 2020 #5
I live in San Diego County ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #7
I hear ya! nt Karma13612 Sep 2020 #10
I hope it stays true blue! calimary Sep 2020 #12
I think the reason Texas does well economically is mostly because of the blue cities. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #8
Sorry but that is not corecct. For years, the largest cities in the state were Repugs efhmc Sep 2020 #13
Texas survives on oil and cheap labor for its Ag industry... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #15
I run our family ranch and that is just not true. efhmc Sep 2020 #16
Red states also have more Covid-19 infections too. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #9
They also tend to be the poorest as well.. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2020 #11
I like that map. So many of those red states are positioned appropriately. calimary Sep 2020 #14
Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona & West Virginia are all upside-down just like their politics ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #17
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Sep 2020 #18

Greg K

(599 posts)
1. Poor and uneducated is just how the GOP likes their states.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 10:18 AM
Sep 2020

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
6. Yup. N/t
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:08 AM
Sep 2020

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
2. "...like a malicious tween boy who shakes up an ant farm..."
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 10:23 AM
Sep 2020

That describes Trump's persona to a T, and his supporters thrill at the chaos.

Good one, Cesta. Thanx for posting.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. if only we could limit bluestate taxes to just bluestates, the problems would be resolve
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 10:39 AM
Sep 2020

much quicker

riversedge

(70,092 posts)
4. Lets hope that Trumps ego driven blabbering finally does him in!!
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 10:43 AM
Sep 2020

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
5. Thanks for the link!
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:07 AM
Sep 2020

I skimmed the article and just shake my head.

Trump lovers are in a constant state of “blaming the Dems/Libtards” for everything.

I live in a red area of NY State.

Every chance they get, in response to any bad news coming out of New York City, our local republican voters always plead that New York cut off ties with the City. They moan that the City is the financial ruin of the state. They want their guns and their ‘God given right” to not wear a mask.

Little do they realize that the City keeps the rest of the state alive financially.
If NYC ever ceded from the State, two things would happen:

*The rest of NY would become “Red” And wither on the financial vine.
*I would move to another really Blue state (I’ve lived in NYC but can’t afford to move there now)

Republican voters are in a state of denial that ruins it for everyone else.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
7. I live in San Diego County ...
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:21 AM
Sep 2020

So pretty much the opposite side of the country.

San Diego County and Orange County were once the Urban Conservative counties in the state.
We worked our a$$e$ off in the early 2000's to flip San Diego County from Conservative to Liberal.
There are now more registered Democrats in SDC, by a small margin, than there are Republicans.
The city itself is very Democratic leaning, but the northern suburbs leading up to Orange and Riverside Counties
have plenty of Republican voters. And a lot of those suburbs are still within the San Diego city boundaries.

The good part is that California will go blue for the foreseeable future.
I have Republican friends that complain that their vote will mean nothing.
I just laugh and say, but you support the Electoral College, because without it, we would have
never had 8 years of G.W. McIdiot or Pendejo45 as pResidents.

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
10. I hear ya! nt
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

calimary

(81,125 posts)
12. I hope it stays true blue!
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:40 PM
Sep 2020

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
8. I think the reason Texas does well economically is mostly because of the blue cities.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:22 AM
Sep 2020

It is the Democratically run cities that have been attracting technology and other jobs. It was quite a coup when Austin/Travis County landed the Formula One race. And of course Austin has been home to SXSW and Austin City Limits for years, both of which bring in a lot of revenue for the city and state.

Had the article included health insurance, or rather its lack, as a criterion, Texas would have been number 1. Republicans refused to expand Medicaid under the ACA and the state has the distinction of having the largest population of uninsured in the country, for several years in a row. It also has one of the highest maternal death rates in the country.

Why do voters refuse to see that when you vote for Republicans, you get more poverty, lower educational achievement, and higher rates of people without health insurance? I suppose all that is worth a few backward judges for some people.

efhmc

(14,723 posts)
13. Sorry but that is not corecct. For years, the largest cities in the state were Repugs
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

and the oil and gas and agricultural and tech and maritime industries gave us a thriving industry. The rise. finally. of the poorer sector of our state economically and politically has made the difference.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
15. Texas survives on oil and cheap labor for its Ag industry...
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

efhmc

(14,723 posts)
16. I run our family ranch and that is just not true.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:56 PM
Sep 2020

I lease it to a man who uses family members and had no additional help. They use horseback still for roundups.

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
9. Red states also have more Covid-19 infections too.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 11:33 AM
Sep 2020

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,730 posts)
11. They also tend to be the poorest as well..
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:27 PM
Sep 2020

Due to low taxes, there is no money for Infrastructure, Education, Government services, etc.

Also at the bottom when it comes to Minimum Wage, Graduation rates, Birth rates, quality of life.

States that have State Income Taxes and Sales Taxes are able to afford the nicer things. Our Federal dollars go to support the poorer states that trend Republican.

calimary

(81,125 posts)
14. I like that map. So many of those red states are positioned appropriately.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

Turned sideways, upside down, or otherwise askew to the point of unrecognizability. Just like their politics.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
17. Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona & West Virginia are all upside-down just like their politics ...
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

Although Arizona is starting to show some life, and Texas should probably be 90 degrees sideways
due to Biden 48% - Trump 47%

Omaha Steve

(99,504 posts)
18. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 01:22 PM
Sep 2020

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