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Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:11 PM

Ricin Is Said to Have Been Sent to White House

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — An envelope addressed to the White House contained a substance that federal investigators identified as the lethal substance ricin, according to a law enforcement official briefed on the inquiry. It is unclear when the envelope was intercepted before it reached the White House mail room, but investigators believe that it was sent from Canada, according to the official.

Federal investigators are working to track down who sent it and determine whether other envelopes have been sent through the postal system. Ricin, which is part of the waste produced when castor oil is made, has no known antidote.The White House could not be immediately reached for comment.

In 2011, four Georgia men were arrested and later sentenced to prison for plotting to spread the toxin simultaneously in five American cities, targeting federal and state officials. That same year, American counterterrorism officials said they were increasingly tracking the possibility that Al Qaeda would use ricin in attacks against the United States.

Two years later, a Mississippi man sent letters containing ricin to President Barack Obama and a Republican senator in an attempt to frame a rival. The letters were intercepted at sorting facilities.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/us/politics/ricin-white-house-postal-service.html

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Reply Ricin Is Said to Have Been Sent to White House (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 OP
DaisyTom Sep 19 #1
hlthe2b Sep 19 #3
former9thward Sep 19 #48
johnnyfins Sep 19 #5
SergeStorms Sep 19 #36
Evolve Dammit Sep 19 #39
AZ8theist Sep 19 #41
dalton99a Sep 19 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 19 #4
KWR65 Sep 19 #6
2naSalit Sep 19 #23
bamagal62 Sep 19 #7
dameatball Sep 19 #8
LiberalArkie Sep 19 #16
chowder66 Sep 19 #9
tblue37 Sep 19 #12
chowder66 Sep 19 #13
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 19 #17
chowder66 Sep 19 #18
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #21
tblue37 Sep 19 #10
area51 Sep 19 #43
Traildogbob Sep 19 #11
procon Sep 19 #14
PSPS Sep 19 #15
yaesu Sep 19 #19
Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #20
bullimiami Sep 19 #22
Operaweeble Sep 19 #24
marble falls Sep 19 #25
bucolic_frolic Sep 19 #26
roamer65 Sep 19 #27
AZ8theist Sep 19 #40
hadEnuf Sep 19 #28
pandr32 Sep 19 #29
Paladin Sep 19 #30
NCjack Sep 19 #31
bucolic_frolic Sep 19 #32
turbinetree Sep 19 #33
former9thward Sep 19 #49
turbinetree Sep 19 #50
llashram Sep 19 #34
rickyhall Sep 19 #35
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #38
SergeStorms Sep 19 #37
EndlessWire Sep 19 #44
LPBBEAR Sep 19 #42
EndlessWire Sep 19 #45
BumRushDaShow Sep 19 #46
EndlessWire Sep 20 #51
BumRushDaShow Sep 20 #52
hamsterjill Sep 19 #47
EarthFirst Sep 20 #53
Paladin Sep 20 #54
keithbvadu2 Sep 20 #55
The Animator Sep 20 #56

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:13 PM

1. this has Stephen-Miller-Dumb-Jared false flag written all over it

 

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Response to DaisyTom (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:18 PM

3. That was my first thought... I'll say no more.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:00 PM

48. So a conspiracy involving the FBI, Secret Service and the Postal Service.

OK.... Why some people can't accept reality I don't know. There are nuts out there, deal with it.

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Response to DaisyTom (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:24 PM

5. This is just as phony as

Dick Cheney's wheelchair at BHO's innauguration.

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Response to johnnyfins (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:49 PM

36. Which reminds me....

Does Donald Trump hunt? He and Dick(face) Cheney should go on a hunting trip, real soon!

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:28 PM

39. Yes! "Peppered him pretty good" would be a fun news day.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:37 PM

41. Doturd hunt?? LAUGHABLE. The moron can't even catch an underhanded baseball .....

How the hell would he fire a loaded gun??

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:16 PM

2. Memo to USPS: All mail must be stopped and searched to protect the president.


Slow the mail down, please


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:23 PM

4. That's what's done anyhow, has been for years,

ever since the anthrax scare in 2001.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:25 PM

6. Lunatic Fringe! I Know you're out there.

I hope the sender gets 20 years in federal prison.

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Response to KWR65 (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:06 PM

23. ...

I just had to post this started coursing through my head when I read your comment.




Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe
Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe - YouTube
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Lyrics
Lunatic Fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding
And you hold your meetings
I can hear you coming
And I know what you're after
We're wise to you this time
Let you kill the laughter
Uh huh
Uh huh
Uh huh
Lunatic fringe
In the twilight's last gleaming
This is open season
But you won't get too far
'Cause you gotta blame someone
For your own confusion
We're on guard this time
Against your final solution
Oh no
Uh huh
Uh huh
Uh huh
We can hear you comin'
No, you're not gonna win this time
(Not gonna win)
We can hear the footsteps
Way out along the walkway
(Out along the walkway)
Lunatic fringe
We all know you're out there
Can you feel the resistance
Can you feel the thunder, yeah

Songwriters: Thomas William Cochrane
Lunatic Fringe lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:31 PM

7. Fake News!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:31 PM

8. Every "mailroom" in every public facility of any kind has protocols for this. It wouldn't surprise

me if some type of suspicious package was received at the White House every day, for a long, long time. This one just happens to be a very convenient leak, if anything.

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Response to dameatball (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:43 PM

16. Every mailroom in all private facilities and corporations have protocols got checking every

item entering the facility however it was delivered.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:32 PM

9. Why aren't they saying show it was addressed to? I can't access the article so if it says that can

someone post it?

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:36 PM

12. They said addressed to Trump. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:38 PM

13. Thanks!

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:50 PM

17. There's not much more to it than what was posted.

It's believed to have originated in Canada.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:51 PM

18. I saw the info about Canada but didn't see who it was addressed to. That's been cleared up. Thanks!

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:58 PM

21. The NYT had broke it first but here is a link to the johnny-come-lately CNN article



A package containing the poison ricin and addressed to Trump intercepted by law enforcement

By Evan Perez, CNN

Updated 3:07 PM ET, Sat September 19, 2020

(CNN) A package containing the poison ricin and addressed to President Donald Trump was intercepted by law enforcement earlier this week, according to two law enforcement officials. Two tests were done to confirm the presence of ricin. All mail for the White House is sorted and screened at an offsite facility before reaching the White House. The FBI and Secret Service are investigating the matter.

Ricin is a highly toxic compound extracted from castor beans that has been used in terror plots. It can be used in powder, pellet, mist or acid form. If ingested, it causes nausea, vomiting and internal bleeding of the stomach and intestines, followed by failure of the liver, spleen and kidneys, and death by collapse of the circulatory system.

CNN has reached out to the White House and Secret Service for comment.


This story is breaking and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/19/politics/package-poison-ricin-addressed-to-trump-intercepted/index.html

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:36 PM

10. Yeah, right.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:41 PM

43. +1 n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:36 PM

11. So....

“I really don’t care, do you”. Mix a little into his Aderal lines. No fucks left. My inspiration is I am younger than McDonnell, Trump and Barr. And I plan to stay as healthy as possible, so I will be here to cheer and party, when these old assholes are called home. Not advocating any violence, just wanna be here to celebrate an end, naturally, to pure evil. Fuck those high roads, look what that got us. All the blubber around the necks of all three of them has to eventually choke em out.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:40 PM

14. This smacks of a staged Trump press event.

How convenient. Now Trump will create a new venue to implicate Biden and Democrats in some conspiracy plot to assassinate him. Maybe Trump should ask his pal Putin how to stage his next performance art as a poison party.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:54 PM

19. fake news

agent orange trying to get sympathy votes

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:56 PM

20. Was the envelope labeled "Top Quality Adderal enclosed"? Nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:59 PM

22. Sorry but Im skeptical about anything that comes out of this administration.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:12 PM

24. I would not be surprised if this was:

1. An inside job, meaning that a far-right faction did this to pin it on the left, making Trump, et al, able to play the "victim" card.

2. I t also is not out of the realm of possibilities that the Russians helped with this and told the White House to expect this.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:13 PM

25. I flat out do not believe it.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:15 PM

26. The public really doesn't know what to think

partly because these investigations of these types of incidents must be less than transparent to protect the targets.

But the timing here ... is it meant to distract? They've had 3.8 years and this happens now? I won't believe it coincidental until the evidence is known and shared publicly. Call me skeptical.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:17 PM

27. One of Dumps cocaine shipments.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:34 PM

40. That's what I thought. Should have labeled it "Adderall".....

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:20 PM

28. A right-wing false flag operation.

n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:23 PM

29. Fake News!

For real. Inside job meant to drum up support for the poser president.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:52 PM

30. Yet another diversion. Totally unbelievable. (nt)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:14 PM

31. Why did the name Roger Stone come up in my mind? I sure wish he

was still in jail.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:17 PM

32. Conservatives scratching each others' backs on both sides of the border?

Because the free market capitalists are in Canada too, particularly western oil territory

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:23 PM

33. Sent from Canada..................I got a bridge.......................if anyone thinks that the

mail service up there does not have defections machines for this stuff..............well again I got a bridge............

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #33)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:06 PM

49. They don't have "defections machines"

Whatever those are. No postal service examines mail at the beginning. Only at the end depending on who it is addressed to.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #49)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:29 PM

50. oops my mistake, fat fingers............. detection machines............

thanks for the information............I would think any international mail would be checked prior to coming into any country.......

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:25 PM

34. bullshit trump red flag

distraction to look like a victim.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:27 PM

35. If they were serious they'd hide it is a cheeseburger.

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Response to rickyhall (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:00 PM

38. Or better

a cheeseberder!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:55 PM

37. The October surprise.... WAR ON CANADA!

That's about the only re-election ruse Trump hasn't used yet, so get ready Canada, the full fury of Donald Trump is on the way!

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:46 PM

44. HAHAHAHAHA!!! n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:18 PM

42. postmark

Based on the Trump administrations screwing with the USPS my guess is it was postmarked prior to July and just now arrived.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:49 PM

45. I don't know what to believe

except that this will get played, and could completely stop the USPS. Not saying it will, just cautious about the whole thing.

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #45)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:01 PM

46. You might recall right after 9/11, the whole anthrax fiasco and the mail

and how it badly impacted several post offices in NJ and I think FL. Ever since then, there have been all sorts of screening processes and procedures put in place, both at the post offices and in the mail rooms at all federal buildings (and particularly at the White House and in Congress) during the subsequent almost 20 years.

And you might also recall this guy and his mail bombs just 2 years ago (feels like forever ) -





https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/clintons-obama-suspicious-packages/index.html

All federally-targeted ones intercepted.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #46)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 12:41 AM

51. Well, yeah

I remember all that. But, Trump is twisted, and it would be nothing for him to say, despite all that you mention, that the mail has to be stopped while they check it all out. He has his fall guy in place to blame it all on. What are people gonna say? They can't say anything, because, you know, ricin...

I'm taking my ballot, completely filled out for blue candidates and Biden/Harris making certain it is properly signed, taking my driver's license, and packing for any kind of bullshit day, and I am going to hand carry it to the poll. It's the best I can do, a kind of special day where I get to stick it to the Orange Asshole. Then I wait.

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #51)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:15 AM

52. I mean I get what you are trying to suggest

but the distaff side of that based on how he operates, is that he believes that he can come in and "save" things by "putting his people on it". And considering that the courts have already ruled against any attempts to halt disruption of the mail, then something like that will again get a rebuke.

In fact, any policy that even broaches that will pretty much destroy the GOP's election chances up and down the ballot at the state and local level, even if the deplorable "base" cheers every draconian measure that he attempts.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:37 PM

47. Who knows whether it's true or not?

How many lies has a Trump told? After so many, you learn not to believe what he says (or directs others to say).

I’m glad there are protocols in place to protect the people who would touch something like this. Surprised that Trump hadn’t disbanded the hazmat team - but then again, this ultimately protects him.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #47)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:08 AM

53. At least 20,000 according to Politifact...

Several articles from WaPo; Guardian; Politifact and others in July claiming 20K...

CNN claims 22 in just his acceptance speech at the RNC.

So you’re absolutely correct; who knows what or whom to believe from the WH anymore...

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 09:25 AM

54. Sounds like complete bullshit to me.

You can smell the desperation coming off this one......

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:47 AM

55. Return adress? Mike P and Mother?

Return adress?

Mike P and Mother?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 12:18 PM

56. Oh Look, a convenient excuse to disrupt postal service operations

ahead of the election... Surely this must be the work of a Democrat hell bent on preventing mail in voting...
oh wait...

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