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Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:24 PM

Nancy Pelosi Doesn't Rule Out Using Impeachment To Stall SCOTUS Nomination

Source: Huffington Post

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Sunday left open the possibility of using the impeachment process to prevent the Republican-controlled Senate from confirming a new Supreme Court associate justice in the next few months.

George Stephanopoulos, host of ABC's "This Week," told Pelosi that some people have suggested the House could move to impeach President Donald Trump or Attorney General William Barr "as a way of stalling" the judicial nomination process.

"Well, we have our options. We have arrows in our quiver that I'm not about to discuss right now," Pelosi said before pivoting to discuss the upcoming election and the coronavirus pandemic.
"This president has threatened to not even accept the results of the election with statements that he and his henchmen have made," she said. "So right now, our main goal ... would be to protect the integrity of the election as we protect the American people from the coronavirus."

Stephanopoulos pressed Pelosi: "But to be clear, you're not taking any arrows out of your quiver? You're not ruling anything out?"
Pelosi hesitated before responding, adding that Democrats will use "every arrow in our quiver" to protect democracy.

"We have a responsibility," she said. "We take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. We have a responsibility to meet the needs of the American people. That is when we weigh the equities, protecting our democracy requires us to use every arrow in our quiver."

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nancy-pelosi-impeach-scotus-nomination_n_5f675d92c5b6b9795b1244a9



Stay strong Madam Speaker, the integrity of an entire branch of government is at stake. The Republicans cannot be allowed to arbitrarily change Senate rules to block Democratic nominations to the court while allowing their own to go forward.

Save the Supreme Court from this Republican assault.

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Reply Nancy Pelosi Doesn't Rule Out Using Impeachment To Stall SCOTUS Nomination (Original post)
bluewater Sep 20 OP
totodeinhere Sep 20 #1
bluewater Sep 20 #8
totodeinhere Sep 20 #11
bluewater Sep 20 #12
jaxexpat Sep 20 #36
sandensea Sep 20 #50
StTimofEdenRoc Sep 20 #34
Cha Sep 21 #55
olegramps Sep 20 #52
The Mouth Sep 21 #58
totodeinhere Sep 22 #61
groundloop Sep 20 #2
mysteryowl Sep 20 #3
2naSalit Sep 20 #21
sakabatou Sep 20 #31
2naSalit Sep 20 #33
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 20 #4
oldsoftie Sep 20 #26
Cha Sep 21 #56
ashredux Sep 20 #5
totodeinhere Sep 20 #13
2naSalit Sep 20 #22
totodeinhere Sep 20 #25
honest.abe Sep 20 #6
BComplex Sep 20 #7
FBaggins Sep 20 #30
BComplex Sep 20 #32
bluewater Sep 20 #9
totodeinhere Sep 20 #18
Wellstone ruled Sep 20 #10
totodeinhere Sep 20 #14
bluewater Sep 20 #16
totodeinhere Sep 20 #20
bluewater Sep 20 #29
bluewater Sep 20 #37
CaptainTruth Sep 20 #35
bluewater Sep 20 #38
FBaggins Sep 20 #49
Wellstone ruled Sep 20 #17
totodeinhere Sep 20 #23
Jose Garcia Sep 21 #60
jorgevlorgan Sep 20 #15
Thekaspervote Sep 20 #19
bucolic_frolic Sep 20 #24
JT45242 Sep 20 #27
Flash953 Sep 20 #53
NurseJackie Sep 20 #28
DaisyTom Sep 20 #39
Pepsidog Sep 20 #40
Calista241 Sep 20 #41
SophieJean Sep 20 #43
Tumbulu Sep 20 #45
ehrnst Sep 21 #57
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Tumbulu Sep 20 #44
roamer65 Sep 22 #62
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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:27 PM

1. I'm just wondering if impeaching him again would make any difference.

Impeachment starts in the House. While the House is taking up impeachment the Senate could be voting on a SCOTUS nomination. And if the House did vote to impeach it would be up to Moscow Mitch to decide when to take that up. He could have the Senate take up the court nomination first.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:39 PM

8. Can Supreme Court Justices themselves be impeached? I believe so.

A simple majority in the House could impeach a Justice and a Democratically controlled Senate could remove them.

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Response to bluewater (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:45 PM

11. Of course they can be impeached but it would take a 2/3rds vote in the Senate

to remove them and the Democrats will have nowhere near 67 votes in the Senate even if they do take control after the election.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:46 PM

12. Good point.

Thanks, I'll edit my suggestion out of the OP.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:30 PM

36. 67, schmixty seven. After the election some republicans may grow a soul.

Agreed, it's unlikely, also agree that 2020 has shown little prejudice toward likelihood.

There's still Christmas. "Remember the Grinchamo!"

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #36)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:02 PM

50. It's not that they don' have one - it's that they sold it out to the Mercers and Kochs long ago

If not the Devil himself.

They have an agenda to follow, and you can never count on more than 3 or 4 to vary from that even an iota.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:25 PM

34. Impeaching "Him" again would have to be done quickly. After 11/3 looks like sore loser.

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Response to StTimofEdenRoc (Reply #34)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 06:37 AM

55. Not if trump LOSES it won't. trump NEEDS to be

Impeached AGAIN for lying to the American People about COVID.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:55 PM

52. Leningrad Linsey and Moscow Mitch will goose-step us into fascistic dictatorship as we sleep.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:46 PM

58. It won't make a damn bit of difference

and will fire up his base.

It was a stupid temper tantrum the first time and it would be again.

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Response to The Mouth (Reply #58)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:00 PM

61. We have got to be sure that we are more fired up than they are. n/t

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:29 PM

2. That's a misleading headline, putting words in Speaker Pelosi's mouth.

AND, I agree that it's doubtful that impeachment in the House would hold up the Senate's vote on a Supreme Court "nominee*"

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:30 PM

3. I don't understand how Impeachment would have anything to do with the Senate

holding a hearing and voting to install a new SCOTUS. If I know that, I wonder what she is thinking about?

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Response to mysteryowl (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:58 PM

21. Once and impeachment has been..

voted upon in the House, the moment it hits the Senate all other business in the Senate stops until the trial is done.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #21)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:12 PM

31. Or they can just say, "Screw the trial, Trump's all good."

And go on business as usual.

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #31)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:14 PM

33. True.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:30 PM

4. Trump has threated to use an EO to disqualify Biden from the election.

He has done so many impeachable offenses since Ukraine that Nancy would be justified in making passing articles of impeachment the first order of business Monday.

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:07 PM

26. He THINKS he can do anything with an EO. He cant.

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 06:40 AM

56. Not to mention LYING to the American People

about COVID & doing everything he can to Spread IT.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:30 PM

5. The idea is to block the system from moving forward on the Supreme Court

Procedural muck-up

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Response to ashredux (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:48 PM

13. Another impeachment vote in the House would not stop the Senate from doing other business.

Even if the House did vote to impeach again the Senate could take up a SCOTUS nomination before holding an impeachment trial.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:00 PM

22. I think the impeachment pre-empts all other business in the

Senate once it leaves the House and is received by the Senate.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:06 PM

25. No it does not. The Senate can take up the impeachment trial when it sees fit.

The Senate schedule is controlled by the majority or in other words Moscow Mitch.

Impeachment wouldn’t slow the Senate down. There’s no requirement that an impeachment trial precludes all other Senate business or that a trial occupy much Senate time at all. (Remember, Trump impeachment trial had no witnesses.)


https://lawandcrime.com/politics/impeachment-expert-dismisses-possible-tactic-to-stop-new-trump-justice-from-joining-supreme-court/

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:32 PM

6. Any experts out there who know how impeaching the Idiot again would effectively delay anything?

Seems McConnel would decide the Senate schedule regardless of what's going on in the House.

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:34 PM

7. She needs to impeach barr and trump at the same time.

Throw it all at the wall and see what sticks.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:11 PM

30. There's an election in a few weeks

You really think that wouldn't hurt us?

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #30)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:13 PM

32. I think people know that it would be a defensive move to keep the republicans from trying to pull

a hypocritical fast one on the supreme court.

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Response to honest.abe (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:55 PM

18. You are correct.

McConnell could schedule a vote on the SCOTUS nomination regardless of what the House did. If they impeach him again the Senate would be under no obligation to let that hold up their court nomination vote. Even if the GOP loses their Senate majority in the election that would not take effect until next January and in the meantime the GOP would continue to control the Senate.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:41 PM

10. Time frame would be

at least two weeks in the House,followed by at least a month in the Senate. Same for Barr. Only this time,with the GOP loss in the Senate,the vote outcome would defiantly be bye bye donnie.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:50 PM

14. No, if the GOP loses control of the Senate in the election that would not take effect until next

January. The current Senate lineup would hold the impeachment trail. It would not definitely be by bye Donnie.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:53 PM

16. Won't Some Senators winning special elections be seated sooner?

For example, if Kelly wins in Arizona? I seem to remember seeing that he would be seated sooner than January 20th.

Would one or two such changes, along with the possibility of Senators changing their minds if Trump loses the race for president alter the outcome? I'm not sure, but the possibility might persuade 4 Republican Senators to not confirm Trumps nominee. Again, I just don't know.

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Response to bluewater (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:58 PM

20. That's just one more vote and it would not get the Democrats anywhere near the 67

votes they would need.

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Response to bluewater (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:25 PM

35. New Congress is seated January 3. POTUS/VP is January 20.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #35)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:40 PM

38. Would special election winners be seated even before January 3rd?

Every vote in the Senate could make a difference , since only 4 votes need to swing to block Trump's nominee.

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Response to bluewater (Reply #38)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:59 PM

49. One could be available as soon as 11/30.

But that won't get it done.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:53 PM

17. Not necessary the case.

Retribution can be wonderful.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:02 PM

23. I do not get your logic. There is no way that the Democrats will take control of the Senate before

January and even if by some miracle they did they would not have anywhere near the 67 votes they would need to remove him.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 03:51 PM

60. You actually think that there is a possibility of 67 Democrats in the Senate?

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:52 PM

15. Hell yeah

Go Nancy!!!



Put these hypocritical liars in their place!

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:56 PM

19. Where....in god's name would we be without her!!

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:05 PM

24. They could come up with about 175 impeachments from this administration

Maybe that will keep them busy?

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:09 PM

27. Elaine Chao would be a good candidate also Pompeo on November 4 4

There is little doubt that she has done illegal tings especially with getting Covid relief.

Going after her might force McConnell to recuse himself and let someone else try to wrangle the muttts after they get annihilated in the election.

Then the Dems could stall and stall as points of order get worked through that would keep the Senate busy until January 3.

Remember they get replaced earlier than the President.

You could literally take your pick

Every cabinet level and sub-cabinet level official is so corrupt.

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Response to JT45242 (Reply #27)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:20 PM

53. Great Idea! just keep recommending horrible people with horrible records and keep asking questions

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:11 PM

28. Nancy Pelosi ROCKS!! She's got what it takes! She's proved it OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:54 PM

39. GOOD. These are the tactics I want to see.

 

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:56 PM

40. I have heard this tough talk before only to Rs steam roll Dems. Recent example PPP oversight. Whose

our McConnell, we sure do need one.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:56 PM

41. The optics of this are terrible for us to regular voters.

And I don't think they'd have much affect on the Senate. And forever after, we'd be seen as the party that impeached a President for partisan purposes and something other than a 'high crime or misdemeanor'.

Unfortunately, I bet 7 out of 10 Americans couldn't tell you who RBG was, or why she was so important.

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Response to Calista241 (Reply #41)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:10 PM

43. trump cult members certainly know who RBG is,

because they are celebrating her death. Ginsburg has been vilified by wingnuts for a very long time. They want her seat filled NOW. Fuck the "optics," do you see the mobster party worrying about optics? Democratic leadership needs to play hardball, if not impeachment then by utilizing all other options, otherwise it's game over. The fascists are ready to seize power any way possible. There are no do-overs.

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Response to SophieJean (Reply #43)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:26 PM

45. Correct

There are no do overs, this is it.

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Response to SophieJean (Reply #43)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 08:52 AM

57. Suggestions on what they can do that they are not doing now? (nt)

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:09 PM

42. Oooh! Ooooh!


Do Barr first!

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:25 PM

44. Can McConnel be impeached?

Like immediately?

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:31 PM

46. Pelosi is great at her job, I have great faith in her abilities

If it can be done, she will know how. The inner workings of Congress is more mysterious than Qanon logic.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:40 PM

47. Whatever it takes. (nt)

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:41 PM

48. We are @ the crossroads. Love Nancy's phraseology. If anyone is confirmed to The Supreme

Court, it should be Merrick Garland!...

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:24 PM

51. I LOVE this B1T*h!

I'm a libtard biker and have been for some 5 +decades. Not an easy role to fulfill these days. I live in a very, very red small town in the smoky California mountains. It's tough man. I'm just shy of 60 and got into a fist fight with a 30 something magat last night when he yelled across the bar "FUCK RBG!".
Age prevailed. Sore in a spot or two no doubt. Luckily he was about 2/3rds my size. Hey, he threw first...
Anyway, my point I guess:
Nancy F-ing Polosi is Legend.
When my mother retired, she held a full minute of silence in the state senate to commemorate.
When my mother passed she held another in the national.
She's as good as it gets.
Mom never gained her American citizenship. Complicated.
But I and my siblings have ours.
Vote!
Our lives just may depend on it.
Thanks for the rant.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 07:23 PM

54. "Don't characterize the power I bring."

My favorite Pelosi quote.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Sep 21, 2020, 03:49 PM

59. This is what you say when you can't do a damn thing

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 05:27 PM

63. Impeach Barr.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 05:35 PM

64. Today's reporting about Putin directing the disinfo

campaign against Biden and Russian oligarch money flowing into the the same acct that paid off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal certainly the helps the cause for another impeachment of Trump.

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Response to bluewater (Original post)

Tue Sep 22, 2020, 05:38 PM

65. Barr needs to be impeached even more than Trump does right now, IMO.

Dump is a useful idiot. Barr has the real power right now, and he's way more scary because he's not totally out to lunch.

Think the Shrub/Cheney power dynamic on steroids.

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