John Lennon killer says sorry for 'despicable act'

[alp227]

Source: BBC

Mark Chapman, the man who killed John Lennon, has apologised to the late Beatle's widow, Yoko Ono, 40 years after his death.

Chapman shot Lennon four times outside his New York Manhattan apartment as Ono looked on, in 1980.

He was denied parole for the eleventh time following a hearing last month.

During the hearing, Chapman said he killed the 40-year-old rock star for "glory" and that he deserved the death penalty.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54246444

[Harker]

1. Glory...

how utterly sad.

[SergeStorms]

17. Make a perfect....

Trump supporter, wouldn't he.

[kwolf68]

2. May this man rot in hell

He deprived the world of a musical genius. It's one thing for Janis or Jimi to succumb to the trappings of their own demons, but John was just living life with his young family. Fuck off Mark.

[matt819]

3. I think we're going to see lots of violence in the near future

directed at Dems, liberals, the deep state, and so much more, and all in the name of glory, or god's glory, or trump's glory.

[dubyadiprecession]

4. Anytime Yoko leaves or goes into the Dakota....

She has to walk through the same pathway, where John layed dying, because there is no other route to take.
Some people are stronger than we think.

[marble falls]

26. And ...?

[Wabbajack_]

56. She still lives there?

I'd move if it bothered me

[Autumn]

5. He deserved the death penalty over and over again. May he rot.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. Nobody deserves the death penalty.

That's a barbarism that no civilized society should tolerate, ever, for anyone.

[George II]

9. Right, why commit the same act for which the executed one committed himself?

[Lunabell]

10. I disagree.

While this is not a death penalty case for me, there are some that are. Heinous crimes against humanity such as torture, or the raping and murdering innocents warrants the death penalty in my opinion.

I have worked in jail and prison as a nurse and there are some people, so devoid of humanity and so dangerous that they can't live in general population. Even in solitary confinement they continue to be a danger to anyone around them. Solitary confinement isn't the answer either. You can not keep someone on lockdown 24/7, it makes violent offenders even more violent. What kind of humane treatment is that?

[marble falls]

11. Absolutely. Murdering to stop murder makes no sense.

[RhodeIslandOne]

16. Aren't you the one who wants him released?

[marble falls]

21. If the only reason at this point he is inside is to get even with him, I think 40 years ...

is enough for someone who hasn't engaged in any of the violence available in prison, made no threats to anyone else while in prison.

Wouldn't 40 years inside keep you straight when you got out? Wouldn't the thought of doing 40 years keep you from killing someone?

[3Hotdogs]

23. If it wasn't John Lennon, would he be out now?

There is probably a difference between him and Berkowitz (Son of Sam). Berk is insane and could kill again. Chapman --- I don't know.

How old are both of them?

[marble falls]

24. Important question! That's an example of how sentencing is not impartial.

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[marble falls]

27. I think its weird in a discussion about capital punishment you decided to take a personal cut at me.

Life sentences are a chickenshit form of capital punishment.

[marble falls]

29. So your whole argument is ad hominem? You might want to refresh on the ToS.

[JI7]

34. Why would it ? there have been many people who committed crimes after getting out

I think people who take another's life on purpose should be locked away for life.

[marble falls]

36. Really. Do you have any figures about how many people recommit murder after 40yrs in stir?

[JI7]

37. No, But even if they didn't commit another crime taking one life is enough to lock them away for

life .

[marble falls]

38. Why?

[JI7]

39. punishment for taking a life

[marble falls]

41. Eye for an eye may be an attitude but it doesn't represent justice. It does't even act ...

as a deterrent. Western European countries tend to top out sentences at 10 - 15 years for murder and have a much lower murder rate than the US. Revenge and retribution has not worked out well for us.

[JI7]

42. The reasons for our high murder rate have to do with a lot of things like availability of guns

racism, corrupt police depts , locking up people for drug use etc.

But I don't think locking away those who take a life for life is one of the reasons for it.

[marble falls]

43. What I said was long terms do not seem to have any effect on crime. So why do long terms?

If Chapman had killed you or me, he'd have been released by now. This demonstrates he's been in long enough.

[JI7]

44. As punishment for the crime of taking a life. He shouldn't be released no matter who he killed

[marble falls]

45. I think it says just the opposite.There should be shorter terms. What is being accomplished ...

more than 40 years?

[JI7]

46. What says the opposite ?

[marble falls]

47. What are you trying to accomplish with longer terms?

[JI7]

48. punishment

[marble falls]

53. So words like "reformatory", "penitentiary", "corrections system", "justice" means nothing ...

and the needs of society mean nothing: its all about revenge and getting even?

If I were to be murdered, I do not want that attitude to be that of anyone on the jury for my murderer.

40 years is enough punishment for anyone, particularly for a single crime with no other crimes associated with it.

[diverdownjt]

51. GReedDiamond.....

I hate Chapman too....but don't you think that John himself would forgive him by now?
I do...had he lived he would, since he died ,and this important now, We must forgive him now.

I'm not a christian, so don't get that shit in here, But forgiveness can bring healing to the victim's
family. It is a way to get beyond the tragedy and continue with Life. It's a catharsis that help's
get you moving forward when your instincts say to stop forever.

[marble falls]

54. Thankyou.

[marble falls]

55. Who's defending Chapman? Forty years are enough if he shows contrition and behaved ...

in prison. Why do you think he was given "life with a chance for parole" vs "hard life"?

[SeattleVet]

12. I has a poster in the 60's that read:

"Why do we kill people that kill people to show people that killing people is wrong?"

[demigoddess]

35. life in prison cell until he dies of natural causes then. Some people should not

be out walking around.

[George II]

8. The death penalty is unethical and immoral. Thankfully there is no death penalty in New York State.

[Shermann]

13. Is war unethical and immoral?

The answer is that the answer wouldn't be meaningful. Criminals like him have declared war on society and represent an existential threat to it. Rules of war apply here.

[LanternWaste]

19. A creative, though thoroughly unsupported hypothesis you allege.

[marble falls]

22. I never saw his "declaration of war on society", any chance you post it or link it?

[Dial H For Hero]

30. I agree, although not because it was Lennon that he murdered.

But rather simply that he murdered.

[Lasher]

7. Fuck him

He was always just wanting to get attention and that is exactly what he is doing now. If he is really remorseful he should prove it by killing himself

[customerserviceguy]

14. Why is any news media outlet

giving this piece of shit any publicity at all?

Let him rot in the obscurity that he so richly deserves.

[Warpy]

15. Thrill killers need to stay locked up

and this guy certainly qualifies as that. Parole hearings should be suspended, he should never get out.

[raccoon]

18. Well, I agree that he deserves/d the death penalty.

Asshole.

[Aristus]

20. Oh, well that will bring John Lennon back.

Nice try, asshole. No one is buying your contrition. Die in prison...

[Yorkist]

31. Yes, well....

.....perhaps execution might have attached some bizarre sort of kudos to this scumbags murderous behaviour in the eyes of like minded low life. A bit more drama and shock value and headlines - “glory” as this particular maggot would put it.

Better that his endless attempts to be permitted to crawl back out into society keep meeting with the same old Groundhog Day conclusion.

Still, on the wider point of the death penalty, whilst I completely understand people’s abhorrence of the whole concept, with child murderers and the like I’m inclined to think that it’s not unreasonable or unhealthy for society to sometimes want revenge, as well as justice.

[The Animator]

32. Has anyone ever bother to ask what Mr Lennon would have wanted?

As far as the death penalty debate.
The pros and cons of both arguments are as old as capital punishment itself. Whether or not it’s an effective deterrent or constitutes cruel and unusual punishment are irrelevant until we address a much bigger, deeper problem.

Our justice system is deeply flawed and we have not lived up to our obligation to provide equal justice under the law.

The same justice system that freed Brock Turner, the little shit who raped a girl behind a dumpster, is the same system that has jailed rape victims for killing their attackers in self defense.

We have executed people who were later found to be innocent. That scumfuck Scalia even said “mere factual innocence is no reason not to carry out a death sentence properly reached."

People of color regularly receive far harsher penalties for the same infractions as whites for no justifiable reason.

I’m not implying that Champan was innocent. No way in hell. But the existence of the death penalty in general is ludicrous in the face of us knowing full well how fucked up our justice system is.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk...

[kwolf68]

33. Total agree

While it's not one of my hot button issues, I am 100% opposed to capital punishment. I know that's hard to go with when you hear about some things people do, but I don't think we should kill, period.

[xfreedom2020]

40. The day after the assassination I was in the recording studio

with my band Scott X and the Constitution Commandos, an anti police state rock band. The mood was grim but we plowed ahead, knowing that John supported our anti-fascist and anti police state music

[GReedDiamond]

50. Like this...

[no_hypocrisy]

52. You don't make parole when you state, "Yeah, I did it -- and I'd do it again."