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Bayard

(22,054 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 02:28 PM Sep 2020

Louisville grand jury indicts 1 of 3 officers in fatal Breonna Taylor police shooting

Source: Louisville Courier Journal

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — A Jefferson County grand jury has indicted one of three Louisville officers in the March 13 fatal police shooting of 26-year-old Breonna Taylor.

But the charges are for putting Taylor's neighbors in danger, not for killing her.

The grand jury's decision Wednesday:

Former detective Brett Hankison was indicted on three counts of first-degree wanton endangerment.
Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly was not indicted.
Detective Myles Cosgrove was not indicted.
A wanton endangerment charge is a class D felony and carries a penalty of one to five years in prison. The charges read by Judge Annie O'Connell on Wednesday said that Hankison "wantonly shot a gun" into adjoining Apartment 3.

The occupants of that apartment were identified by initials. None of victims identified in the indictment was BT — Breonna Taylor.

Read more: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/breonna-taylor/2020/09/23/what-we-know-about-breonna-taylor-case-announcement/5415646002/



The wanton endangerment charges were for the shots that went into the neighbors apartment--not for killing Taylor. The other shots were self-defense because her boyfriend pulled a gun on people busting down his door in the middle of the night.

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Louisville grand jury indicts 1 of 3 officers in fatal Breonna Taylor police shooting (Original Post) Bayard Sep 2020 OP
More bullshit Bayard Sep 2020 #1
I don't have the words. NurseJackie Sep 2020 #2
There will be demonstrations, and not just in that city. This will get people out all over the... brush Sep 2020 #3
Louisville Bayard Sep 2020 #4
Thanks, I just changed it. brush Sep 2020 #7
They are counting on it. Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #5
And scare the dumbs*its who watch faux not fooled Sep 2020 #17
Trouble is, Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #23
I believe it's the fault of those that approved the warrant and made the error. Hoyt Sep 2020 #6
I am sorry but it doesn't look good for tonight. I bet there will be riots all over the place totodeinhere Sep 2020 #8
The officers were given a set of rules and trained to perform their jobs in a certain manner Jose Garcia Sep 2020 #9
So were the SS Officers killing undesirables The Mouth Sep 2020 #10
The Nazis committed war crimes. Jose Garcia Sep 2020 #16
There were no laws, in Germany, against what they did at the time The Mouth Sep 2020 #25
they never identified themselves llashram Sep 2020 #21
A civilian witness testified that he or she did hear the police identify themselves Jose Garcia Sep 2020 #29
so what, that was a time after llashram Sep 2020 #30
And I am sure that you spent just as much time as the member of the Grand Jury in examining Jose Garcia Sep 2020 #31
I did spend time llashram Sep 2020 #33
Absolutely disgusting. ancianita Sep 2020 #11
Yeah, I agree, that's a pretty misleading headline greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #12
The headline makes it appear that there were murder indictments SoFlaBro Sep 2020 #14
The system is working as it is designed to work. BeckyDem Sep 2020 #13
You don't just shoot without seeing what you're shooting at Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #15
The two inside... 12over Sep 2020 #18
of course if they were white they would have just been protecting themselves from intruders Kali Sep 2020 #32
UPDATE Bayard Sep 2020 #19
Oh dear, expectations not disappointed. 😖 Duppers Sep 2020 #22
Kick dalton99a Sep 2020 #20
"Putting neighbors in danger"?!! Duppers Sep 2020 #24
MSNBC: Jason Johnson Duppers Sep 2020 #26
Sigh! Catherine Vincent Sep 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Earth Bound Misfit Sep 2020 #28

Bayard

(22,054 posts)
1. More bullshit
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

"Cameron said the grand jury decided homicide charges are not applicable because the investigation showed that Mattingly and Cosgrove were justified in returning deadly fire after they were fired upon by Kenneth Walker, Taylor's boyfriend, who has said he didn't know police were at the door.
He said there was "nothing conclusive to say" that any of Hankison's bullets hit Taylor."

KY AG fumbling along on CNN now. Getting questions he can't answer.

Crowds are starting to gather in Louisville. Authorities knew this was coming--that's why they brought in barricades yesterday. Under curfew. An arrest warrant has been issued for Hankison.

brush

(53,764 posts)
3. There will be demonstrations, and not just in that city. This will get people out all over the...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

nation. She's dead but no one is to blame even though they shot up her apartment and killed her.

This is sick, reminiscent of the Michael Brown murder.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,460 posts)
5. They are counting on it.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 02:36 PM
Sep 2020

They want protests. They will infiltrate them and provoke violence so they can crack down.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
17. And scare the dumbs*its who watch faux
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:28 PM
Sep 2020

that if red don doesn't get re-elected, the entire nation will be engulfed in flames.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. I believe it's the fault of those that approved the warrant and made the error.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 02:38 PM
Sep 2020

I'd like to see these warrants strictly limited.

I think the AG is being honest and I'm glad to see all Kentuckians aren't like Moscow Mitch.

Jose Garcia

(2,592 posts)
9. The officers were given a set of rules and trained to perform their jobs in a certain manner
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 02:53 PM
Sep 2020

They should not be prosecuted for doing what they were supposed to do.

The "rules of engagement" need to be changed so that these dangerous operations occur far less frequently than they do now.

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
10. So were the SS Officers killing undesirables
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:02 PM
Sep 2020

'Just following orders' is NEVER and should never be an excuse.

Jose Garcia

(2,592 posts)
16. The Nazis committed war crimes.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:27 PM
Sep 2020

What these officers did was legal. If you want to punish them for something which was legal but is no longer legal, I suggest you read the Constitution and see what it says about ex post facto laws.

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
25. There were no laws, in Germany, against what they did at the time
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:27 PM
Sep 2020

Technically, what they were convicted of WERE ex-post facto crimes.

Following orders, or the law, is not an excuse when it comes to crimes against humanity, settled law. Or are you saying that if a policeman or soldier were given orders to fire live ammunition into a crowd, it would be OK because they were following orders?

llashram

(6,265 posts)
21. they never identified themselves
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:29 PM
Sep 2020

Breonna's boyfriend's gun was legal. Why do people always come to the aid of killers like this? Breonna's boyfriend was protecting his household. American police have always looked at brown people as targets. They were supposed to kill Breonna. Early on in this travesty, there were reports about her activism but that quickly was swept under the rug. There is a group she was working with that was fighting some group who wanted to gentrify their neighbourhood. We all know what that means for poor people and people of colour. Breonna was the message sent to those fighting the gentrification of their neighbourhood

llashram

(6,265 posts)
30. so what, that was a time after
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:47 AM
Sep 2020

this foul murderous deed. If you must defend the killers of Breonna Taylor, it is your right. I know what I know and for me, defence of these types is problematic. I am done with this discussion.

Jose Garcia

(2,592 posts)
31. And I am sure that you spent just as much time as the member of the Grand Jury in examining
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 01:19 PM
Sep 2020

the evidence.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
33. I did spend time
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:00 PM
Sep 2020

Last edited Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:00 PM - Edit history (1)

going over every word about this murder and now this witness. Aarin Sarpee recanting his testimony about whether he heard the murderers identify themselves. He didn't, he did, he didn't, he did as I knew he didn't. This one stunk from the very beginning. And don' forget the wannabe gentrifying group Ms Taylor was fighting in court, I think.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
13. The system is working as it is designed to work.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:10 PM
Sep 2020

Make no mistake about it.


RIP Breonna. We will never forget what happened to you.

Johnny2X2X

(19,037 posts)
15. You don't just shoot without seeing what you're shooting at
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 03:20 PM
Sep 2020

They busted a door down and were shot at because of it, that doesn't excuse shooting random bullets, officers are trained to only shoot what you can see.

 

12over

(63 posts)
18. The two inside...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:02 PM
Sep 2020

Last edited Wed Sep 23, 2020, 06:32 PM - Edit history (1)

The two inside the house did shoot at what they could see.

The one outside shot at what he couldn't see.

that is why the one outside is being charged and the two inside are not.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
32. of course if they were white they would have just been protecting themselves from intruders
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 01:39 AM
Sep 2020

but...well, you know.

Bayard

(22,054 posts)
19. UPDATE
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:04 PM
Sep 2020

Several women on the ground, with cop knees on their backs. Handcuffed and hauled off. Cops lining up with batons. Its escalating.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
22. Oh dear, expectations not disappointed. 😖
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:10 PM
Sep 2020

Fingers crossed that folks don't get seriously hurt.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
24. "Putting neighbors in danger"?!!
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:15 PM
Sep 2020





Staying tuned and hoping things don't become violent this evening.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
26. MSNBC: Jason Johnson
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 05:37 PM
Sep 2020
"You can’t go anywhere if you’re Black": Jason Johnson unleashes on cops letting white supremacist militias walk freely.

A frustrated Jason Johnson lamented his exhaustion and sadness that in Louisville, Kentucky, there were militia members who were safer than people of color because of how people of color continue to be treated.

“You know, every time this happens, and this has happened a lot, I always tell myself before I go on air, I’m not going to get pissed Johnson confessed. “And yet today, I can’t help it. I’m so disgusted by this. I’m so disgusted by Daniel Cameron’s performance.”

“This woman got shot in her house! When she was asleep! It’s like Atatiana Jefferson got shot playing video games with her nephew at 2:00 in the morning. Like Botham Jean was eating ice cream and got shot on his couch. If cops bust into my house right now and shot me on the air, what Daniel Cameron basically told America is that that would be legal."



https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/you-cant-go-anywhere-if-youre-black-jason-johnson-unleashes-on-cops-letting-white-supremacist-militias-walk-freely/


There's so much justifiable anger and rage.

If I were religious, I'd be praying for folks in Louisville tonight.




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