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12over

(63 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:47 PM Sep 2020

Republican-Controlled Senate Passes Peaceful Transfer of Power Resolution Vowing 'No Disruptions by

Source: Mediate

The Republican-controlled Senate passed a resolution from Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) reaffirming its “commitment to the orderly and peaceful transfer of power,” after President Donald Trump refused to commit to a peaceful transfer if he loses the presidential election.

Manchin’s resolution read that the Senate “reaffirms its commitment to the orderly and peaceful transfer of power called for in the Constitution of the United States,” and “intends that there should be no disruptions by the President or any person in power to overturn the will of the people of the United States.”

The resolution was passed by unanimous consent in the Republican-controlled Senate on Thursday.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/watch-republican-controlled-senate-passes-peaceful-transfer-of-power-resolution-vowing-no-disruptions-by-the-president/

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Republican-Controlled Senate Passes Peaceful Transfer of Power Resolution Vowing 'No Disruptions by (Original Post) 12over Sep 2020 OP
I'll believe it when I see it, but it's a good start. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #1
I share your skepticism rurallib Sep 2020 #31
Agreed. calimary Sep 2020 #34
Wow!!! Excellent!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #2
These days, I take hope badseedboy Sep 2020 #3
I think the Senate GOP* are starting to see the writing on the wall... Raster Sep 2020 #4
I truly hope you're right, I very much want you to be but... WePurrsevere Sep 2020 #6
Make no mistake, if the Senate GOP* does put country above party... Raster Sep 2020 #9
Yes, I think FINALLY some reality might be starting to sink in as to what they have RKP5637 Sep 2020 #8
I'm very cynical that the 'cons will actually stand up to Trump's WePurrsevere Sep 2020 #5
I have quotes from the GOP Senate about SCOTUS nominees in a presidental election year Gore1FL Sep 2020 #7
We can't take our foot off the pedal for even 1 second. They lied to us NCjack Sep 2020 #10
Nice idea. At least it's something, but I don't trust Republicans for their word. Firestorm49 Sep 2020 #11
BS, they'll support the peaceful transfer of power... William Seger Sep 2020 #12
I fear your right! bluestarone Sep 2020 #44
I don't trust them one iota. It only makes me more aware that they could steal it LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #13
"Maybe using voting machine hacking." Talitha Sep 2020 #36
Very few, if any, Senators are willing to fight for trump and his 'lost cause'. empedocles Sep 2020 #14
Unexpected good move from Joe Manchin. Thank you, 12over. Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #15
Trump doesn't care about breaking the law. Dr. T Sep 2020 #16
Welcome to DU, Dr. T! calimary Sep 2020 #42
Depends how you define "disruptions" bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #17
Mcturtle cares about one thing..power. He would be ceding his power to a wanna be dictator if Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #18
It should be a law, not a mere resolution... VarryOn Sep 2020 #19
Biden has been getting briefings. TicketyBoo Sep 2020 #20
A Resolution in this case... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #23
I missed the part about it being a resolution Dr. T Sep 2020 #21
Holy shit I never would've believed it. ESPECIALLY this fast!!! oldsoftie Sep 2020 #22
Yeah, I'll take what ever little bit of positive news that comes our way at this point in time. MizLibby Sep 2020 #26
Makes sense. They really have nothing to lose. That thing will be the lamest of ducks if he loses catbyte Sep 2020 #24
They must be thinking that Trump will win. Marie Marie Sep 2020 #25
They promised not to nominate a SCJ during an election year in 2016. I don't believe them one bit. Tommymac Sep 2020 #27
the Repubs' definition of "the will of the people" differs greatly Archetypist Sep 2020 #28
Welcome to DU, Archetypist! calimary Sep 2020 #41
thanks Archetypist Sep 2020 #47
not worth the ink llashram Sep 2020 #29
Of course, that's after "the will of the people"... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #30
And if there Is disruption? What then? Sorry, but NO trust for the republicans... Illumination Sep 2020 #32
It doesn't mean shit. mn9driver Sep 2020 #33
What Trump really meant to say keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #35
I. Do. Not. Trust. Them. Talitha Sep 2020 #37
Welcome to DU, 12over! calimary Sep 2020 #38
It's a resolution - who gives a shit? hatrack Sep 2020 #39
"...peaceful transfer of power as long as it's to Mango Voldemort." Worthless. kairos12 Sep 2020 #40
Most Republican senators probably hate Benedict Donald's guts, generalbetrayus Sep 2020 #43
Not worth the paper it's printed on. paleotn Sep 2020 #45
hmm Kali Sep 2020 #46
Back with post #50 in LBN on Tuesday: Rhiannon12866 Oct 2020 #48
"You can have my presidential seal when you pry it from my cold, dead, ..." JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #49

rurallib

(62,477 posts)
31. I share your skepticism
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:28 PM
Sep 2020

Although this is more than I ever imagined they would do.
Spines take quite awhile to find when they aren't used.

Edit to add - of course this is after they get their SCOTUS justice rammed through.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. I think the Senate GOP* are starting to see the writing on the wall...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:54 PM
Sep 2020

...and many are now realizing that all of #MoscowMitch's dirty, Russian* dark money may not be able to buy their way out of this.

People should not fear their governments. The governments should fear the people.

I think the fear is starting to set in.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
6. I truly hope you're right, I very much want you to be but...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:59 PM
Sep 2020

they've put party over country so many times that the cynic inside me won't be holding its breath.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
9. Make no mistake, if the Senate GOP* does put country above party...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:03 PM
Sep 2020

...it won't be because they want to.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. Yes, I think FINALLY some reality might be starting to sink in as to what they have
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:00 PM
Sep 2020

unleashed in the White House. Trump, has proven over and over again what he is.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
5. I'm very cynical that the 'cons will actually stand up to Trump's
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:56 PM
Sep 2020

shit if he tries something but this at least gives me a tiny (very tiny) spark of hope that maybe, when push comes to shove, the GOP might finally do the right thing for our country.

Gore1FL

(21,164 posts)
7. I have quotes from the GOP Senate about SCOTUS nominees in a presidental election year
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:00 PM
Sep 2020

While I would rather see this resolution than not, it has no teeth and I don't believe the word pf majority of those who voted for it.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
10. We can't take our foot off the pedal for even 1 second. They lied to us
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:03 PM
Sep 2020

about Merrick Garland and Trump's pick. Probably just another Moscow Mitch lie.

William Seger

(10,788 posts)
12. BS, they'll support the peaceful transfer of power...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:05 PM
Sep 2020

... to Trump's Supreme Court to orderly and peacefully hand the election to Trump.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
13. I don't trust them one iota. It only makes me more aware that they could steal it
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:05 PM
Sep 2020

That they are privately confident that no matter what the polls say, they have in place assurances from swing state Governors, and Putin that they will push Trump over the required elector votes. Maybe using voting machine hacking. Then they will use the old "Gee, I guess there was a last minute surge for Trump", or "most people asked in polls didn't admit they were voting for Trump" who knew?

So they then rebuff any Democratic challenge to the result when they pull this out and accuse Democrats of two-faced hypocrisy.

Talitha

(6,635 posts)
36. "Maybe using voting machine hacking."
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:38 PM
Sep 2020

That's exactly what came to mind when Dump started his early blathering about mail-in-votes, and then had someone cripple the USPS. When they (GOP, Putin, and Dump) obviously went out of their way to have us pay attention to the USPS, you can bet your bottom dollar they're after the voting machines.

Damn them all.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
14. Very few, if any, Senators are willing to fight for trump and his 'lost cause'.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

[Suspect the 'cons are seeing signficant erosion of trump support].

Dr. T

(97 posts)
16. Trump doesn't care about breaking the law.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:19 PM
Sep 2020

And this law will be no different. So much for the so-called party of law and order, rule of law, blah, blah, blah.

calimary

(81,562 posts)
42. Welcome to DU, Dr. T!
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:48 PM
Sep 2020

They'll only keep to it as long as it serves them and their agenda (and it won't hurt if it fills their pockets) in some way.

bucolic_frolic

(43,442 posts)
17. Depends how you define "disruptions"
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:23 PM
Sep 2020

Barr will just say he's filing lawsuits to protect the will of the people - his people.

Thekaspervote

(32,819 posts)
18. Mcturtle cares about one thing..power. He would be ceding his power to a wanna be dictator if
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:35 PM
Sep 2020

He did otherwise. It ain’t happenin’

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
19. It should be a law, not a mere resolution...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020

With no teeth.

It should be illegal for an outgoing administration not to help prepare an incoming administration be ready on day one...or at least give them reasonable assistance to be ready.

I can totally see Trump instructing his administration officials not to cooperate with Biden’s team or impeding the transition in some way.

By all accounts, Trump was given a peaceful transition; he should do the same for Biden WHEN the time comes.

TicketyBoo

(1,955 posts)
20. Biden has been getting briefings.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:14 PM
Sep 2020

Anyway, that's what I read. Other than that, he shouldn't need a primer on how to be president, since he has already been schooled. And in a much better administration than the one run by the Keystone Cops.

2naSalit

(86,890 posts)
23. A Resolution in this case...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:19 PM
Sep 2020

Is merely a formal agreement among the majority confirming their intent to uphold this process as is customary. Since it is language in the Constitution, I think that is its legitimacy in the first place. Now we have this confirmation to recognize the legal process so to speak.

Dr. T

(97 posts)
21. I missed the part about it being a resolution
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:15 PM
Sep 2020

and not a law. My bad. I don't think my mother raised an idiot but the jury is still out.

oldsoftie

(12,651 posts)
22. Holy shit I never would've believed it. ESPECIALLY this fast!!!
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:16 PM
Sep 2020

This is excellent news. trump MUST be pissed. Unanimous consent? Wow

catbyte

(34,511 posts)
24. Makes sense. They really have nothing to lose. That thing will be the lamest of ducks if he loses
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:20 PM
Sep 2020

but since I don't trust a republican as far as I could throw the Mackinaw Bridge, I'm hoping it's not a ploy because they know the fix is in like it was in 2016.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
27. They promised not to nominate a SCJ during an election year in 2016. I don't believe them one bit.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
Sep 2020

I'm sure they are weasel words as far as the Rethugs are concerned.

If they can keep power they will break any resolution or law to get there.

Archetypist

(218 posts)
28. the Repubs' definition of "the will of the people" differs greatly
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:03 PM
Sep 2020

from the definition I think most of us use.

calimary

(81,562 posts)
41. Welcome to DU, Archetypist!
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:47 PM
Sep 2020

You're spot-on about that one, for sure.

It's whatever they think will profit them the most, soonest, and with the least amount of effort.

Archetypist

(218 posts)
47. thanks
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:26 PM
Sep 2020

Their definition of "will of the people" includes whatever they can get state legislatures to do for them.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
30. Of course, that's after "the will of the people"...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:12 PM
Sep 2020

...is determined by a handful of gerrymandered Republican state legislatures and a packed SCOTUS.

mn9driver

(4,429 posts)
33. It doesn't mean shit.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:32 PM
Sep 2020

To the GOP, “orderly transition of power” means only one thing: Trump wins. And it most definitely doesn’t mean allowing Biden to take office while the election result is “disputed”, which they will make sure it is.

calimary

(81,562 posts)
38. Welcome to DU, 12over!
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:43 PM
Sep 2020

I hope this is worth more than the paper it's written on.

So far, that side of the aisle will only say what they think will sound good and fool the opposition into shutting up for awhile.

This is how it SHOULD be. But there's no reason to expect that OUR opposition will hold to it, even if they voted for it.

hatrack

(59,599 posts)
39. It's a resolution - who gives a shit?
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:44 PM
Sep 2020

Another manifestation of "BlahblahBLAHBLAHblahblahBLAHBLAHBLAHblahblah!" politics.

generalbetrayus

(508 posts)
43. Most Republican senators probably hate Benedict Donald's guts,
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:20 PM
Sep 2020

but have to kowtow to him so he doesn't turn his supporters against them. Once he loses the election, they no longer have to fear him, at least until the next election, by which time he'll hopefully be haranguing his followers from a prison cell.

Lindsey Graham, 2015: Trump is "a race-baiting xenophobic bigot".
Lindsey Graham, 2018; "never heard him make a single racist statement."
Lindsey Graham, 2021: Trump is "a race-baiting xenophobic bigot".

paleotn

(17,997 posts)
45. Not worth the paper it's printed on.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 09:45 PM
Sep 2020

To borrow a line from James T. Kirk, I've never trusted Republicans and I never will.

Rhiannon12866

(206,573 posts)
48. Back with post #50 in LBN on Tuesday:
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 07:09 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2604285

12over (50 posts)

39. case precedent for a government official signing an NDA.

Liberty Ammo v United States

short story... In almost all cases, a non-disclosure agreement with a government official will not bind the Federal government.

which might be sliiiightly different than if the other party is bound... but it still comes down to, did the government official have the 'express’ or ‘implied' authority to make the NDA binding.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,375 posts)
49. "You can have my presidential seal when you pry it from my cold, dead, ..."
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 08:28 AM
Oct 2020

"...wait, no, I don't want to give anybody any ideas here."

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