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jayfish

(10,278 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:11 PM Sep 2020

Trump Admin. Overrules CDC Director on Extending Ban on Cruises

Source: Ars Technica

Trump administration officials have once again sidelined the head of the country’s leading public health agency while crafting public health policy. This time, officials torpedoed a plan to extend the “no-sail” order on cruise ships until next year.

Cruise ships were initial hotbeds of coronavirus transmission at the start of the global pandemic, which is still far from under control in the United States. Mass outbreaks on the tightly-packed, social vessels forced the cruise industry to shut down in March, and the Centers for Disease Control issued a no-sail order that is set to expire today, Wednesday, September 30.

In a meeting in the White House Situation Room Tuesday, CDC Director Robert Redfield floated a recommendation to extend the no-sail order until February 2021, according to a report by Axios. But Vice President Mike Pence, who chaired the meeting, told Redfield that the administration will be setting a different course.

Instead, the administration will only extend the no-sail order until October 31, matching a self-imposed ban by the cruise industry. Between now and then, the administration expects the cruise industry to demonstrate its plans to allow cruises to “sail in a safe and responsible manner and that the companies assume the burden of dealing with any possible outbreaks," according to officials at the meeting. Further, cruise industry representatives will meet with Trump this Friday to pitch their plans and discuss if the no-sail order needs to be extended further.

Read more: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/trump-admin-overrules-cdc-director-on-extending-ban-on-cruises/

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iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
2. Anyone who goes on a cruse in the middle of an active pandemic is very foolish. There is no
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:25 PM
Sep 2020

room for social distancing on a cruise ship - social distancing and a cruise ship are diametrically opposite.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
4. Everything on a cruise ship involves crowds, lines and group events
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:31 PM
Sep 2020

I guess they could limit the number of passengers or something, but I don't see how a cruise ship can ever be considered safe from the risk that Covid brings.

Outbreaks of norovirus happen ever so often, and it's spread through droplets and touching infected surfaces. That's similar to how Covid is spread.

Finally, on cruises I have been on, most of the passengers are on the older side, and their age makes them more susceptible to fatal complications from Covid.

They could presumably test passengers instantly before boarding. They would need to do this with the crew, too. And then at the ports of call, cruisers could spread or catch Covid.

I like going on cruises, but I will not be stepping on a ship anytime soon. I'm thinking it's going to take years to get people to feel a sense of safety.

LudwigPastorius

(14,724 posts)
6. Everybody sing along!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:39 PM
Sep 2020

Death, exciting and new
Come aboard, we're expecting you
Death, it's a viral brew
That guy coughed, it floats back to you

The Death Boat, soon will be making a run today
The Trump Boat, he promises everyone it's OK
Set a course for lung damage
Your ass on venti-LAY-tion

Breathing... won't hurt anymore
They'll put you in a box, throw you overboard
Yes death...
It's Trump...

The Death Boat soon will be making another run
The Trump Boat promises COVID for everyone
Set a course for a stretcher
Your last wishes on your mind

Trump's lies, won't hurt anymore
With his anus mouth, like an open sore
It's death...
He's Trump...
It's death...
It's the Trump Boat
It's the Death Boat

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
8. Thus Harris' comment about the medical profession being "muzzled".
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:07 PM
Sep 2020

Of course, last night, the moderator tried to parlay that into she was claiming medical professionals couldn't be trusted. Once again, MSM fucks up and we all suffer because more and more stupid people latch onto their bogus analogies and conclusions.

yaesu

(9,327 posts)
9. its obvious that the dictator wants to cause as much death and destruction as he can to keep
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:08 PM
Sep 2020

wall street happy while in office

Stallion

(6,642 posts)
11. Ignoring a Problem Does Not Solve the Problem
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:39 PM
Sep 2020

the Trump Pandemic policies are threatening the long term viability of the cruise industry because there simply will be more widespread outbreaks thereby destroying the long term passenger confidence in the industry. They've wasted 6 months already. America can't fully reopen until the Pandemic is under control

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