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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:54 AM Oct 2020

Revealed: Amy Coney Barrett supported group that said life begins at fertilization

Source: the guardian



Barrett signed newspaper ad in 2006 sponsored by St Joseph County Right to Life, an extreme anti-choice group

Thu 1 Oct 2020 08.45 EDT


Amy Coney Barrett, the Trump administration’s supreme court nominee, publicly supported an organization in 2006 that has said life begins at fertilization. It has also said that the discarding of unused or frozen embryos created in the in vitro fertilization (IVF) process ought to be criminalized, a view that is considered to be extreme even within the anti-abortion movement.

The revelation is likely to lead to new questions about how Barrett’s personal views on abortion may not only shape reproductive rights in the US for decades to come if she is confirmed by the Senate, but how her appointment could affect legal rights for women undergoing fertility treatment, as well as their doctors.
Religious group scrubs all references to Amy Coney Barrett from its website

In 2006, while Barrett worked as a law professor at Notre Dame, she was one of hundreds of people who signed a full-page newspaper advertisement sponsored by St Joseph County Right to Life, an extreme anti-choice group located in the city of South Bend, which is in the region know as Michiana.

The advertisement, which appeared in the South Bend Tribune, stated: “We, the following citizens of Michiana, oppose abortion on demand and defend the right to life from fertilization to natural death. Please continue to pray to end abortion.”

The statement was signed by Barrett and her husband, Jesse.

In an interview with the Guardian, Jackie Appleman, the executive director of St Joseph County Right to Life, said that the organization’s view on life beginning at fertilization – as opposed to the implantation of an embryo or a fetus being viable – did have implications for in vitro fertilization, which usually involves the creation of multiple embryos......................................

Read more: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/01/amy-coney-barrett-supported-group-fertilization



And so it begins. damn




NEW: Amy Coney Barrett signed her name to a full-page ad run by a group that says it believes abortion providers should be prosecuted.

This does not appear to have been disclosed in her questionnaire submitted to the Judiciary Committee.



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The ad that Barrett signed her name to was actually a two-page spread in the South Bend Tribune, and the full ad specifically calls for "an end to the barbaric legacy of Roe v. Wade".

This is as clear a position as you'll ever see from a judicial nominee.

Here is the full ad:



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So she's already being deceitful? Another reason to not be so hasty to appoint her. Seems enough time for vetting is in the best interest of the voters, not the only consideration is that she's a Trump pick. That alone should be a disqualifier.


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Revealed: Amy Coney Barrett supported group that said life begins at fertilization (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2020 OP
this same thinking by these people want to OUTLAW all forms of contraception beachbumbob Oct 2020 #1
Maybe they should take it to the next level... not_the_one Oct 2020 #11
No doubt she and her husband would be the first in line for an abortion stopbush Oct 2020 #2
Abortion is moral for anti-abortion people. keithbvadu2 Oct 2020 #16
"life begins at fertilization" Isn't that the OFFICIAL belief of the Roman Catholic Church? bluewater Oct 2020 #3
For conservatives BlueNIndiana Oct 2020 #13
Yep! Rebl2 Oct 2020 #21
So TANF benefits for needy families should begin as soon as a woman is pregnant? SharonAnn Oct 2020 #23
Life began billions of years ago William Seger Oct 2020 #4
Your point is what I have been saying for years. LastDemocratInSC Oct 2020 #7
Makes me wonder about identical twins Retrograde Oct 2020 #10
NEW: Amy Coney Barrett signed a letter urging the end of 'barbaric' Roe v. Wade riversedge Oct 2020 #5
Of course life begins at conception, but... patphil Oct 2020 #6
Please see Post 4: "4. Life began billions of years ago" Ramsey Barner Oct 2020 #9
Genesis 2 : 7 instructs that life begins at "first breath." SunSeeker Oct 2020 #18
Kick dalton99a Oct 2020 #8
So she thinks the birth control pill qazplm135 Oct 2020 #12
Way to liberal for me. H2O Man Oct 2020 #14
What the Bible says about abortion keithbvadu2 Oct 2020 #15
The Bible says life begins at "first breath." SunSeeker Oct 2020 #17
So... get rid of in-vitro fertilization? Dave Starsky Oct 2020 #19
Then all our birth certificates are meaningless. CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #20
So if a woman is pregnant at the end of 2020, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #22
Isn't she also a part of a ultra Christian group DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #24
 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
11. Maybe they should take it to the next level...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 12:02 PM
Oct 2020

Contraception is forbidden.

God put that egg there TO BE FERTILIZED. Therefore IT WILL BE FERTILIZED. YOUR (the woman's) choice is irrelevant, for you are nothing more than a conduit for God. And since YOU may not make the correct decision as to who will impregnate you, WE will make that decision for you.

Just in case you may want to be uncooperative, we will control the movement of every female once menstruation begins. All female children will be closely monitored for the onset. Once your "potential" has been "realized", the necessary surgical procedure will be utilized to prevent any further unwanted pregnancies.



See? Wasn't that simple? A GUARANTEED path to a WHITE MASTER RACE.



Yes, I know this is completely outlandish, but slippery slopes NEVER wind up where they were intended to wind up. More often than not they usually end up plummeting off a cliff into an abyss.

Young people are going to have sex. We can't stop them.

The much more logical and reasonable option would be do the research to find a proven, yet harmless, contraceptive implant for both males and females, which prevents fertilization. This should allow a much healthier attitude towards sex for society, as a whole.

When someone decides they want to become a parent, either alone or with another, he/she/they can have the implant removed. Each party can find a willing partner. Legal documents can be signed addressing lone or joint responsibility.

Then both parties (if that is the decision) can be responsible, rather than the burden falling, more often than not, on the female.

In this way there would never be an unwanted pregnancy, and all decisions related to the pregnancy is/are controlled by the individual(s) and their doctors. And it eliminates a mythical God from the equation.

Of course talk is cheap, and the issue only affects me peripherally, since I am gay, only had sex with a woman once (because I felt I HAD to, to know for sure I was gay), and made the decision (for genetic/hereditary reasons) to NEVER have kids of my own. It was a good decision. I'm quite happy tolerating the little beasts from afar, and for VERY short periods of time.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
2. No doubt she and her husband would be the first in line for an abortion
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:58 AM
Oct 2020

if doing so was in their interests. It’s what one would expect from the always-hypocritical Christians.

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
21. Yep!
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 05:46 PM
Oct 2020

After a person is born they don’t care. An example is locking up immigrant children in cages.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
4. Life began billions of years ago
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:05 AM
Oct 2020

... and it's just been dividing cells since then in an unbroken chain. What religious people really mean is that a new soul is created at fertilization. That's a purely religious belief that should not be forced on others.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
7. Your point is what I have been saying for years.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:32 AM
Oct 2020

It's so obvious to anyone who puts a few minutes of thought into the issue.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
10. Makes me wonder about identical twins
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:54 AM
Oct 2020

since identical twins occur when a fertilized ovum splits in two and each half develops separately, which one gets the soul?

And if you practice a religion that teaches, say, that souls are recycled, why must you adhere to Barrett's religion? Same question if your beliefs teach that life begins at the "quickening" or X days after fertilization. IMHO, Barrett and her ilk hold that their beliefs are the only valid ones and must be imposed on others.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
6. Of course life begins at conception, but...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:12 AM
Oct 2020

our Holy Spirit, which sets us apart from animals, enters the body when the baby takes his/her first breath after being born.

Terminating a pregnancy through abortion isn't murder since the fetus is not yet a human person.

This whole anti-abortion, anti-birth control business is all about controlling a woman's reproductive process. It has it's roots in male resentment that a woman is the one who gets to birth each new generation. It's essentially male domination of the female, usually asserted through religion.

The fact that so many women go along with this is what amazes me.
But then a lot of what passes for religion these days is just so far from spirituality. So many people decide what God's will is, without really knowing God.

Ramsey Barner

(349 posts)
9. Please see Post 4: "4. Life began billions of years ago"
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 11:49 AM
Oct 2020

I agree with almost everything you said, but there's no way that swimming sperm-dude isn't alive, and the egg is a living cell, too, in all its equal-rights glory!

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
12. So she thinks the birth control pill
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 12:03 PM
Oct 2020

Should be criminalized since it is post fertilization and pre implementation.

She'd be a vote against birth control, not just abortion.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
14. Way to liberal for me.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 12:11 PM
Oct 2020

I say let's prosecute teenaged boys for wet dreams, and women for menstrual cycles. Is nothing sacred?

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
17. The Bible says life begins at "first breath."
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 02:16 PM
Oct 2020

Genesis 2 : 7 instructs that life begins at first breath.
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2014/3/19/1285933/-Bible-Life-Begins-at-Breath-Not-Conception

Barrett is another hypocrite masquerading as a Christian. In reality, she is just a right wing nut job.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
19. So... get rid of in-vitro fertilization?
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 02:40 PM
Oct 2020

Do they realize that a lot of baby evangelicals get thrown in the trash that way?

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
20. Then all our birth certificates are meaningless.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 02:47 PM
Oct 2020

We'll need Conception certificates.

We'll also have to change all public records, driver's licenses, etc.

We'll start having conception cakes, parties, and presents.

The math should be just as accurate for full-term pregnancies as for preemies. It's all an estimate anyway.

Now to prosecute the miscarriages, which can happen to conservative women too. (Oops)

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
22. So if a woman is pregnant at the end of 2020, ...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 06:09 PM
Oct 2020

... she should be able to claim the fetus as a dependent for tax purposes?

And, (bonus!) she can drive in the multiple-occupancy lanes on the freeways!

She will spout the correct words, like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, causing some concern, but McConnell will strong-arm the Republican vote to confirm.

Jill Stein and Susan Sarandon should be pleased.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
24. Isn't she also a part of a ultra Christian group
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 02:54 PM
Oct 2020

An ultra christian group that subjugates woman. As i understand that group is erasing their member list. If she lies about any of these things can't she be impeached for lying to Congress?

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