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brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 05:22 PM Oct 2020

AG Nessel Files Felony Charges Against Jack Burkman, Jacob Wohl in Voter-Suppression Robocalls

Source: Michigan.Gov

LANSING – Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has filed charges today against two political operatives for allegedly orchestrating a series of robocalls aimed at suppressing the vote in the November general election.

Jack Burkman, 54, and Jacob Wohl, 22, are each charged with:

One count of election law – intimidating voters, a five-year felony;
One count of conspiracy to commit an election law violation, a five-year felony;
One count of using a computer to commit the crime of election law – intimidating voters, a seven-year felony; and
Using a computer to commit the crime of conspiracy, a seven-year felony.

The charges were filed today in the 36th District Court in Detroit. Arraignment is pending for the defendants. The Attorney General’s office will be working – with local law enforcement if necessary – to secure the appearance of each defendant in Michigan. It’s too early to say if formal extradition will be necessary or if they will present themselves here voluntarily in the very near future.

Burkman, an Arlington, Virginia resident, and Wohl, a Los Angeles, California resident, allegedly attempted to discourage voters from participating in the general election by creating and funding a robocall targeted at certain urban areas, including Detroit. The calls were made in late August and went out to nearly 12,000 residents with phone numbers from the 313 area code.


Read more: https://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7-359-92297_99936-541052--,00.html

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AG Nessel Files Felony Charges Against Jack Burkman, Jacob Wohl in Voter-Suppression Robocalls (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Wonder if the accused are worried. BootinUp Oct 2020 #1
Not nearly enough. 5 years is in no way proportional to the Hortensis Oct 2020 #4
I counted a possible 24 years HuskyOffset Oct 2020 #11
Yes, but big ifs. We've seen that notions of what's appropriate Hortensis Oct 2020 #12
That is true in general, but remember the name Tom Noe DFW Oct 2020 #23
:) Yes. And let's remember Martha Stewart also. Hortensis Oct 2020 #25
This goes back some 40 years DFW Oct 2020 #26
Well, that "wannabe" probably explains being left to rot. Hortensis Oct 2020 #27
The thought of Tom Noe as a member of the judiciary is unnerving DFW Oct 2020 #28
:) Unnerving. He sounds a lot like a type we've known also. Hortensis Oct 2020 #32
Felonies GALORE, idiots!! Leghorn21 Oct 2020 #2
Frankly, I don't really understand why they both are not in prison already. tblue37 Oct 2020 #3
Like Trump they have lawyers paid for pwb Oct 2020 #6
If they were dems DENVERPOPS Oct 2020 #17
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Initech Oct 2020 #5
Adding a link: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2020 #7
To the klink with these kooks Blue Owl Oct 2020 #8
Lock em up jpak Oct 2020 #9
Allegedly perpetrated in 4 states - including Illinois mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2020 #10
During the Nixon years weren't these type of people called 'rat fuckers'. johnthewoodworker Oct 2020 #13
Indeed. Now let's hope we can also call them convicted felons. Marie Marie Oct 2020 #14
Dana Nessel is one sharp and tough cookie. llmart Oct 2020 #15
Maddow reported on this last night DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #30
Thanks for that info. llmart Oct 2020 #31
Please handcuff and perpwalk these two!!! marble falls Oct 2020 #16
Here're the felony complaints against Burkman and Wohl. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2020 #18
LOCK THEM UP!! Grokenstein Oct 2020 #19
We should be on the lookout for Craigslist ads seeking an actor to play the role of ... mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2020 #20
LOCK 'EM UP!!! calimary Oct 2020 #21
That's my AG. roamer65 Oct 2020 #22
How are these creeps not in jail already? Coventina Oct 2020 #24
Dave Weigel writes: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2020 #29
Kick ck4829 Oct 2020 #33

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Not nearly enough. 5 years is in no way proportional to the
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 05:35 PM
Oct 2020

injury to society. We need real sentences proportional to the crime and thus genuinely deterrent. Including potential permanent disenfranchisement and eligibility for office for serious offenders. Brian Kemp should not have been able to take office even if the voters were willing to have him serve from prison.

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
11. I counted a possible 24 years
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 06:27 PM
Oct 2020

if convicted of all four charges and given maximum non-concurrent sentences.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Yes, but big ifs. We've seen that notions of what's appropriate
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 06:43 PM
Oct 2020

are very different for white collar felons whom judges and prosecutors might have associated with in society, or of a level they might have aspired to. Not really...criminals. Certainly sentences appropriate for real, lower criminals are not appropriate for them.

DFW

(54,268 posts)
23. That is true in general, but remember the name Tom Noe
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 02:16 AM
Oct 2020

After the 2004 election, he was their sacrificial lamb, and because he was also involved in another white collar case they let Republican Ohio throw the book at him, and he served almost 14 years of 18 years of consecutive sentences.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. :) Yes. And let's remember Martha Stewart also.
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 02:42 AM
Oct 2020

Noe was a rare white male Republican, not a woman or a black congressman imagining election conferred the protections his colleagues in the white man's club enjoyed.

Apparently these two Republican operatives have been doing this in a number of states, so hopefully they won't be back at it in a couple years.

DFW

(54,268 posts)
26. This goes back some 40 years
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 02:56 AM
Oct 2020

But I actually knew Tom Noe. Our paths used to cross on a regular basis. He was always sort of a wannabe, and I can well imagine that if it meant he could hang with Rove and Bush (Cheney would have seen right through him), he would have done what he was told was bending the rules without breaking them. He had similar attitudes toward his personal life with predictable consequences when I knew him, but that was a long time ago, so maybe he outgrew that. I’ll bet he never saw it coming that his beloved Republicans would let him rot in jail as an expendable example. I wonder how he feels about them now, after being left to rot in jail for 14 years?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Well, that "wannabe" probably explains being left to rot.
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 03:19 AM
Oct 2020

Sounds like he lacked the useful talents that might have lead to a lifetime appointment in the judiciary instead.

Being left to rot reminds me of Ken Starr's "reward" for service of exile far from power to a job at Pepperdine University. that that initially fell through when Richard Mellon Scaife became offended that his swiftboating didn't frame the Clintons for murdering Vince Foster. A few scraps thrown after that, Fox appearances his only distant connection to what might have been. All to the public good, of course, that this scumbag didn't end up on SCOTUS like his assistant Kavanaugh.

DFW

(54,268 posts)
28. The thought of Tom Noe as a member of the judiciary is unnerving
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:29 AM
Oct 2020

I heard that in prison, he "got religion" and became a Jesus freak. After a young married life of business trips where he considered them a failure if he didn't score at the local disco, it seems a little "after the horse has left the barn," but it is seldom that I talk with Republicans who have a constant set of morals that I can relate to.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. :) Unnerving. He sounds a lot like a type we've known also.
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 10:37 AM
Oct 2020

Several over the decades, whose sleazy behaviors destroyed their lives but subsequently (or previously or concurrently) found God. The sleazier and more unstable the character turned out to be, the more likely fundamental the religion and more intense the professed devotion.

"It is seldom that I talk with Republicans who have a constant set of morals that I can relate to."

You and us both. We've made good friends here in GA who are genuinely fine, and intelligent, people in many respects -- even though they voted for Trump and will again. (As opposed to others too mean and/or closed minded to ever be friends with us.) Any of our friends'd be here in an instant to help if we needed them, it's part of who they are, but the merest mention of right or wrong in public policy suddenly finds us on opposite rims of a Grand Canyon-size rift. So we don't.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
7. Adding a link:
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 06:00 PM
Oct 2020

Hat tip, Joe.My.God.


Jack Burkman, Jacob Wohl Charged in Alleged Voter Suppression Scheme

DEVELOPING

The Michigan Attorney General said the notorious operatives targeted “urban areas with significant minority populations.”

Pilar Melendez Reporter | Will Sommer
Updated Oct. 01, 2020 5:50PM ET / Published Oct. 01, 2020 5:23PM ET

Conservative operatives Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman were charged on Thursday for allegedly orchestrating a series of robocalls aimed at suppressing the vote in the November presidential election, Michigan authorities said.

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel filed a slew of charges against Burkman, 54, and Wohl, 22, including conspiracy to commit an election law violation and using a computer to commit the crime of election law. Prosecutors allege the two political operatives were using a robocall system aimed at scaring Detroit voters away from using mail-in voting ballots. The calls, which were made in August, went out to nearly 12,000 Detroit residents.

{snip}

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
14. Indeed. Now let's hope we can also call them convicted felons.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:09 PM
Oct 2020

Enough with their childish antics - this is long overdue.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
15. Dana Nessel is one sharp and tough cookie.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:25 PM
Oct 2020

Way to go, Ms. Nessel! Put these crooks behind bars.

Looks like the Dems will be the ones "draining the swamp".

We are so fortunate to have her in Michigan.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
30. Maddow reported on this last night
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 07:59 AM
Oct 2020

AG Nessel coordinated with the other state AG's where Wohl had pulled this stunt, including our PA Atty Genl Shapiro. She should have a strong case.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
31. Thanks for that info.
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 08:10 AM
Oct 2020

These right wingers need to be kept busy fighting for their lives in court and using up whomever's money that backs their shananigans.

The fact that the AG's are working together is great.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
18. Here're the felony complaints against Burkman and Wohl.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 08:07 PM
Oct 2020
DebatHat Retweeted

Here're the felony complaints against Burkman and Wohl.

https://michigan.gov/documents/ag/Burkman-Wohl_complaint_Redacted_704071_7.pdf



BTW, according to the Michigan AG, she learned during the investigation that similar robocalls were made in New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio,
and Illinois.

So this may only be the start of Burkman and Wohl's problems.



/3 that earlier tweet was deleted; here’s the link to the Michigan AG press release.

https://michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7-359-92297_99936-541052--,00.html


mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
20. We should be on the lookout for Craigslist ads seeking an actor to play the role of ...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 08:31 PM
Oct 2020
We should be on the lookout for Craigslist ads seeking an actor to play the role of the scorned lover of the Michigan Attorney General at a press conference to be held at a Ramada Inn.


mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
29. Dave Weigel writes:
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 07:35 AM
Oct 2020
Give us any chance we'll take it
Read us any rule we'll break it
We're going to make our dreams come true


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