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BumRushDaShow

(169,523 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:05 PM Oct 2020

The president has a fever, congestion and a cough, two people close to him say.

Source: New York Times

President Trump received an infusion of a promising experimental drug to treat Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, after he tested positive for the virus, according to a memo from his doctor. Mr. Trump is showing mild symptoms of Covid-19, Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, told reporters on Friday. The president, who said early Friday morning that he had tested positive for the virus, has a low-grade fever, nasal congestion and a cough, according to two people close to Mr. Trump.

He has received a single infusion of a promising experimental treatment: an antibody cocktail developed by the biotech company Regeneron, according to a memo from his doctor, Dr. Sean P. Conley. Mr. Trump is also taking vitamin D, zinc, melatonin, a daily aspirin and famotidine (an antacid better known as Pepcid), the memo said. “As of this afternoon, the president remains fatigued but in good spirits,” the memo said.

At a fund-raiser he attended at his golf club at Bedminster, N.J., on Thursday, where one attendee said the president came in contact with about 100 people, he seemed lethargic. On late Friday morning, the first lady Melania Trump said on Twitter that “I have mild symptoms but overall feeling good.” “I am looking forward to a speedy recovery,” she said in the tweet. Barron, the Trumps’ son, tested negative.

A White House official said that as of Thursday night, the president’s treatment plan was still being discussed. So was a possible national address or a videotaped statement from the president to demonstrate that he was functioning and that the government is uninterrupted.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/02/world/covid-19-coronavirus/the-president-has-a-fever-congestion-and-a-cough-two-people-close-to-him-say

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The president has a fever, congestion and a cough, two people close to him say. (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 OP
Will those stimulants he snorts help with the congestion or nah? RockRaven Oct 2020 #1
I'm more interested in what they're doing to his heart, if he actually has one. fleur-de-lisa Oct 2020 #4
If he is functioning Ohiogal Oct 2020 #2
Melanoma is tweeting and he isn't he is worse than doc03 Oct 2020 #3
He is never in good spirits unless Akacia Oct 2020 #43
Even if it is mild, or doesn't require hospitalization... C Moon Oct 2020 #5
Hopefully they will save his foot... you know, the one he uses to kick his ball ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #16
The foot with the bone spur ArizonaLib Oct 2020 #20
Yes That one. You know, that kept him from hanging with suckers and losers like ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #21
You are right on ArizonaLib Oct 2020 #25
I doubt if he would stoop to talk to them if cameras aren't around. ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #26
I had what could be considered a mild case. Dem2theMax Oct 2020 #48
Are the doctors even working of an accurate baseline? ChicagoRonin Oct 2020 #6
I'm sure they take current vitals. Codeine Oct 2020 #29
Colour me . . .curious?? He supposedly has mild symptoms, is trying to,work too hard, clearly not niyad Oct 2020 #7
He s going to Walter Reid hospital. Just announced on Nicole Wallace show katmondoo Oct 2020 #8
Yeah I just saw that LBN OP BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #18
He's heading to Walter Reed per CNN Chakaconcarne Oct 2020 #9
KR Cha Oct 2020 #10
Just a little fever and congestion? Bullshit. They're flyng him to Walter Reed right now!! SunSeeker Oct 2020 #11
Adderall withdrawal is going to kick his lard ass. ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #12
Not so... targetpractice Oct 2020 #31
I don't know you but I doubt that you crushed them and snorted like this shitbird. ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #35
Getting the best possible care - the kind of care he would deny all of us. Marie Marie Oct 2020 #13
He's also fatigued. Is that related to oxygen levels? AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2020 #14
See post 12-stimulant withdrawal as well. 58Sunliner Oct 2020 #23
A tweaker denied his zoom dust Codeine Oct 2020 #30
It could just be the body's response to the invasion. n/t Chemisse Oct 2020 #41
Does Trump still insist on a drug test before the next debate? machI Oct 2020 #15
I would never wish Covid on anyone zeusdogmom Oct 2020 #17
I hope he feels a lot worse after January 20th, but not from COVID AdamGG Oct 2020 #44
You got that right zeusdogmom Oct 2020 #45
His press secretary (who NEVER lies) Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #19
Since when do they start giving someone an "experimental drug"? jb5150 Oct 2020 #22
I expect he threw a hissy fit if they didn't do it. BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #24
Viruses have no real treatment LeftInTX Oct 2020 #27
When the janitors run out of bleach and the custodians won't share their light bulbs? ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #28
Maybe There's Only A Short Window modrepub Oct 2020 #32
I think Sanjay on CNN said that this "experimental drug" BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #38
That's what Dr Hotez said on CNN this morning DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #51
It's okay... it's promising! n/t Harker Oct 2020 #40
is this real news or conjecture? yaesu Oct 2020 #33
They are talking about it on CNN right now BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #39
I guess that one conclusion we need to make is that Hydroxychloroquine does not work Escurumbele Oct 2020 #34
Here is a link to the " experimental antibodies"... FarPoint Oct 2020 #36
How's his hamberder consumption? That WhiteTara Oct 2020 #37
Shep Smith reported that Kudlow DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #42
Would they really be giving him an experimental drug if he's just showing "mild symptoms"? LudwigPastorius Oct 2020 #46
Fatigue low blood oxygen levels? tapper Oct 2020 #47
No expense spared in providing medical care to the Covidiot in Chief usajumpedtheshark Oct 2020 #49
In the Regeneron treatment, the average age was 44.... Sancho Oct 2020 #50
Yesterday I both watched the DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #52
I think that in order to get him well enough to go out the door and walk across the lawn BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #53

doc03

(39,078 posts)
3. Melanoma is tweeting and he isn't he is worse than
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:09 PM
Oct 2020

they say. He is in good spirts, give me a break.

C Moon

(13,630 posts)
5. Even if it is mild, or doesn't require hospitalization...
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:14 PM
Oct 2020

he could have a fever for weeks.
We know a couple who's husband had a fever for almost 4 weeks.
Can you imagine? Aches and fever for 4 weeks!

ResistantAmerican17

(4,188 posts)
16. Hopefully they will save his foot... you know, the one he uses to kick his ball
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:23 PM
Oct 2020

out of the rough. Pre-diabetic fat ass.

ResistantAmerican17

(4,188 posts)
21. Yes That one. You know, that kept him from hanging with suckers and losers like
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:43 PM
Oct 2020

he’s about to be surrounded by at Walter Reed.

Dem2theMax

(11,005 posts)
48. I had what could be considered a mild case.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 01:34 AM
Oct 2020

I ran a fever for over two weeks. Could barely get out of a chair to get to the bathroom. Absolute exhaustion. Three solid weeks of sick followed by three solid weeks of doing nothing but sitting in a chair because I was so wiped out from being sick.

And I don't have any of Trumps pre-existing conditions. Those known to us and the unknowns. And I'm younger!

I seriously doubt Trump will be running around by election day. Unless he is barely coughing, and barely registers a temperature.

Selfishly, I want to see him get the chills. The bone chilling, (your skeleton feels like it's turning into an iceberg,) and then it freezes you from the inside out to the point that your teeth chatter. And you stay like that for a good three hours. No amount of blankets can warm you up. And then you start burning up after that.

I really hope he enjoys it. Because, it's a hoax.

ChicagoRonin

(714 posts)
6. Are the doctors even working of an accurate baseline?
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:16 PM
Oct 2020

We all know the officially release details of his past physicals are bunk.

Are those treating him working off his actual stats? And is Trump and his family honestly forthcoming about his habits (including any, um, off-label medication use)?

I doubt it.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
29. I'm sure they take current vitals.
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 06:00 PM
Oct 2020

And any doctor worth the title can look at the enormous blubber pile in front of them and know his stated weight is bullshit.

niyad

(132,290 posts)
7. Colour me . . .curious?? He supposedly has mild symptoms, is trying to,work too hard, clearly not
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:16 PM
Oct 2020

seriously ill. At least, that is what the spokesliar is spitting. . Yet, he is being given an experimental treatment???? The medicos are experimenting on traitor tot???? Does that even make sense?????

BumRushDaShow

(169,523 posts)
18. Yeah I just saw that LBN OP
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:26 PM
Oct 2020

I think that doing any kind of infusion would require a more equipped hospital beyond the mini one in the WH, just to be safe.

SunSeeker

(58,263 posts)
11. Just a little fever and congestion? Bullshit. They're flyng him to Walter Reed right now!!
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:19 PM
Oct 2020

Just reported on CNN.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
31. Not so...
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 06:02 PM
Oct 2020

I've been using stimulants for ADD for more than two decades, and never noticed ANY physical withdrawal symptoms whenever taking a break.

I never abused them though.

Amphetamines (including methamphetamine) can cause psychological dependence, but not physical dependence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine_dependence

zeusdogmom

(1,140 posts)
17. I would never wish Covid on anyone
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:25 PM
Oct 2020

Not even Trump - although karma is a bitch comes to mind....

But as long as he has it, I hope he feels absolutely lousy for weeks oh until the middle of January or so. So feverish and weak that even tweeting exhausts him for hours.

Obviously I am not a nice person 🤣

Miguelito Loveless

(5,739 posts)
19. His press secretary (who NEVER lies)
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:35 PM
Oct 2020

told us a few hours ago he was still hard at work. His symptoms are mild.

Yet, he is now being sent to Walter Reed and they have jumped right to "experimental" treatments?

jb5150

(1,362 posts)
22. Since when do they start giving someone an "experimental drug"?
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:47 PM
Oct 2020

When standard treatments aren't working?

LeftInTX

(34,232 posts)
27. Viruses have no real treatment
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 05:55 PM
Oct 2020

He was given antibodies, but obviously this is more involved!

modrepub

(4,102 posts)
32. Maybe There's Only A Short Window
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 06:03 PM
Oct 2020

of opportunity for these treatments to work? If not administered right away they may not be effective.

BumRushDaShow

(169,523 posts)
38. I think Sanjay on CNN said that this "experimental drug"
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 06:16 PM
Oct 2020

was being tested on something like 300 people and seemed to "help 'early on'" after onset of symptoms.

DeminPennswoods

(17,483 posts)
51. That's what Dr Hotez said on CNN this morning
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 09:25 AM
Oct 2020

The Regeneron drug and Remdisivir have to be early in the disease progression as both are meant to inhibit the amount of virus and give one's own immune system time to mount its own defense.

Escurumbele

(4,090 posts)
34. I guess that one conclusion we need to make is that Hydroxychloroquine does not work
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 06:09 PM
Oct 2020

Is that a fair conclusion?

I don't believe he ever took it anyway.

FarPoint

(14,759 posts)
36. Here is a link to the " experimental antibodies"...
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 06:11 PM
Oct 2020
https://investor.regeneron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/regenerons-regn-cov2-antibody-cocktail-reduced-viral-levels-and


REGENERON'S REGN-COV2 ANTIBODY COCKTAIL REDUCED VIRAL LEVELS AND IMPROVED SYMPTOMS IN NON-HOSPITALIZED COVID-19 PATIENTS
TARRYTOWN, N.Y., Sept. 29, 2020 /PRNewswire/ --

Greatest improvements in patients who had not mounted their own effective immune response prior to treatment

Plan rapidly to discuss results with regulatory authorities

Regeneron to host investor and media webcast to discuss results at 4:30 pm ET today

Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (NASDAQ: REGN) today announced the first data from a descriptive analysis of a seamless Phase 1/2/3 trial of its investigational antibody cocktail REGN-COV2 showing it reduced viral load and the time to alleviate symptoms in non-hospitalized patients with COVID-19. REGN-COV2 also showed positive trends in reducing medical visits. The ongoing, randomized, double-blind trial measures the effect of adding REGN-COV2 to usual standard-of-care, compared to adding placebo to standard-of-care.

This trial is part of a larger program that also includes studies of REGN-COV2 for the treatment of hospitalized patients, and for prevention of infection in people who have been exposed to COVID-19 patients.

"After months of incredibly hard work by our talented team, we are extremely gratified to see that Regeneron's antibody cocktail REGN-COV2 rapidly reduced viral load and associated symptoms in infected COVID-19 patients," said George D. Yancopoulos, M.D., Ph.D., President and Chief Scientific Officer of Regeneron. "The greatest treatment benefit was in patients who had not mounted their own effective immune response, suggesting that REGN-COV2 could provide a therapeutic substitute for the naturally-occurring immune response. These patients were less likely to clear the virus on their own, and were at greater risk for prolonged symptoms. We are highly encouraged by the robust and consistent nature of these initial data, as well as the emerging well-tolerated safety profile, and we have begun discussing our findings with regulatory authorities while continuing our ongoing trials. In addition to having positive implications for REGN-COV2 trials and those of other antibody therapies, these data also support the promise of vaccines targeting the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein."

The descriptive analysis included the first 275 patients enrolled in the trial and was designed to evaluate anti-viral activity with REGN-COV2 and identify patients most likely to benefit from treatment; the next cohort, which could be used to rapidly and prospectively confirm these results, has already been enrolled. Patients in the trial were randomized 1:1:1 to receive a one-time infusion of 8 grams of REGN-COV2 (high dose), 2.4 grams of REGN-COV2 (low dose) or placebo. All patients entering the trial had laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 that was being treated in the outpatient setting. Patients were prospectively characterized prior to treatment by serology tests to see if they had already generated antiviral antibodies on their own and were classified as seronegative (no measurable antiviral antibodies) or seropositive (measurable antiviral antibodies). Approximately 45% of patients were seropositive, 41% were seronegative and 14% were categorized as "other" due to unclear or unknown serology status.

DeminPennswoods

(17,483 posts)
42. Shep Smith reported that Kudlow
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 07:47 PM
Oct 2020

was interviewed on CNBC and said Trump had "moderate" symptoms. That seems a step up from "mild", but who knows?

LudwigPastorius

(14,701 posts)
46. Would they really be giving him an experimental drug if he's just showing "mild symptoms"?
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 12:27 AM
Oct 2020

Hmm...That don't sound right.

tapper

(151 posts)
47. Fatigue low blood oxygen levels?
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 01:00 AM
Oct 2020

At least, as I recall, fairly early, there were people who didn’t experience shortness of breath, but general fatigue, but didn’t know what was going on until they went to the emergency room and learned their blood oxygen levels were plummeting. 94% level may not sound bad (usually want 95–100%), but I’ve received inhalant treatment at that level, for bronchitic asthma. Cough, congestion, fatigue would concern me that the disease is going to attack the lungs...

Side note: if I were a convinced believer in him doing drugs,I’d be wondering if he’d taken a course of uppers to make sure he could walk to the helicopter... but I have mean, nasty thoughts about a certain DJT who I happen to despise.

usajumpedtheshark

(673 posts)
49. No expense spared in providing medical care to the Covidiot in Chief
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 02:25 AM
Oct 2020

I guess he won't have to worry about his medical bill bankrupting him like so many other Americans are facing due to his stupidity.

Sancho

(9,204 posts)
50. In the Regeneron treatment, the average age was 44....
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 02:54 AM
Oct 2020

...and that was a small trial. Only 275 people split into three groups (of about 90).

In other words, even that preliminary “study” likely didn’t have have data on 75 year old men.

They really have no idea if he will have a response that will fight off the virus.

DeminPennswoods

(17,483 posts)
52. Yesterday I both watched the
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 09:30 AM
Oct 2020

18 second speech from Trump, then heard the audio only from not being able to see the TV. In the first instance, Trump sounded fine, normal. But when I heard only the audio, I could hear the congestion in his voice. It surprised me.

BumRushDaShow

(169,523 posts)
53. I think that in order to get him well enough to go out the door and walk across the lawn
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 09:47 AM
Oct 2020

they pumped him up with nasal O2 after a nebulizer treatment of some steroid (probably albuterol), and that was good enough for him to be able to stroll about 100 ft (or whatever short distance) to Marine One.

The odd thing that I had noticed from the debate (that I didn't hear anyone comment on like in the past), was a LACK of his usual sniffing and snorting that was often audible through the mic. So am wondering if he had been using some sort of nasal antihistamine before that event.

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