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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 10:47 PM Oct 2020

Invincibility punctured by infection: How the coronavirus spread in Trump's White House

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Source: Washington Post

By Friday afternoon, Trump’s condition had worsened, officials said, though they maintained he was “in good spirits.” The president had a low-grade fever, a cough and nasal congestion, among other symptoms, according to two people familiar with his condition who, like others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss a sensitive matter.

Trump was transported about 6:16 p.m. Friday to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for further treatment out of what the White House described as an abundance of caution.

As Trump’s condition deteriorated during the day Friday, the president and his team ultimately made the decision to send him to Walter Reed preemptively — and, from a public relations perspective, when he was still able to walk to Marine One on his own, according to one outside adviser in frequent contact with White House officials. They feared the possibility of a further decline, and what that might mean, both for the president’s health and his political optics.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-virus-spread-white-house/2020/10/02/38c5b354-04cc-11eb-b7ed-141dd88560ea_story.html

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Invincibility punctured by infection: How the coronavirus spread in Trump's White House (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Optics. uppityperson Oct 2020 #1
He paraded around like a peacock with an invisible virus shield, yeah, that worksd Baclava Oct 2020 #15
Optics? Hey, he's always looked like an orange-maned silly bastard even before COVID-19! machoneman Oct 2020 #2
... Major Nikon Oct 2020 #3
I told my husband they'd have him walk out to Marine One Grammy23 Oct 2020 #4
First time I saw his real skin color Mira Oct 2020 #6
He started doing the fake tan in the last 15 years or so LeftInTX Oct 2020 #10
I called them giving him Remdesivir before outright pneumonia... moriah Oct 2020 #13
Even odds there's a historic announcement before the weekend's out greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #5
trump has never been in "good spirits". Dios Mio Oct 2020 #7
Geez, what some people won't due to avoid more debates. usajumpedtheshark Oct 2020 #8
Abundance of caution would include todays version safeinOhio Oct 2020 #9
I guess it spread far and wide. LisaL Oct 2020 #11
Hubris appalachiablue Oct 2020 #12
Drumph has covid. I wish I had that jacket melanoma wore to visit his baby cages because ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #14
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Oct 2020 #16

uppityperson

(116,027 posts)
1. Optics.
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 11:29 PM
Oct 2020
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
15. He paraded around like a peacock with an invisible virus shield, yeah, that worksd
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:46 AM
Oct 2020

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
2. Optics? Hey, he's always looked like an orange-maned silly bastard even before COVID-19!
Fri Oct 2, 2020, 11:43 PM
Oct 2020

Major Nikon

(36,927 posts)
3. ...
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 12:15 AM
Oct 2020

Grammy23

(6,131 posts)
4. I told my husband they'd have him walk out to Marine One
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 12:16 AM
Oct 2020

If they had to stuff him like a Christmas goose. He’s all about branding — image. Even if the gold is only gold paint, it better shine like glitter. So he had to present a strong image strolling out the door, no apparent distress. The only fly in that ointment is he’d have never consented to go to the hospital if everything was hunky dory. They must have scared the pants off of him or he could feel himself declining and decided to go while he could still stand up.

By the way, the people testing positive that are in his orbit are announcing their positive tests about every two hours. This is turning into their worst nightmare really fast. If no one dies or suffers serious, debilitating after effects of the virus, it will be a miracle.

Mira

(22,694 posts)
6. First time I saw his real skin color
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 01:25 AM
Oct 2020

ever.

LeftInTX

(34,852 posts)
10. He started doing the fake tan in the last 15 years or so
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 03:09 AM
Oct 2020

It seems like just recently his tans have become hideous. A little bit...OK...but jeesh.....
He was always in tabloids in the 80's, so I was used to his original skin color..LOL



moriah

(8,312 posts)
13. I called them giving him Remdesivir before outright pneumonia...
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:42 AM
Oct 2020

... as soon as I saw that he was going to be flown to Walter Reed. Not really because of optics, but because this is the President of the United States and the risk is serious. We have a shitton of tax dollars sitting for a sick President, and well, these special benefits come with the job of leading the "free world".

I didn't know he got experimental antibodies, but I do know that when ZMapp was made for Ebola, originally there were 6 doses made known to the public and one held back, and a lot of people presumed it was one that was in reserve should a world leader get Ebola. So it doesn't surprise me he got an antibody treatment, too.

If we go by the timeline from the first case of COVID-19 in the United States that was recognized as such from the start and monitored in a hospital for isolation purposes more than anything else... he had self-described cough from day 1 back in the United States, but not a clinical fever until Day 5 of illness, and only developed pneumonia on Day 9. Given Remdesivir illness Day 11, almost immediate response.

This patient was a young, healthy person with no comorbidities such as obesity.

And while the antibodies were a shot, Remdesivir is only able to be administered through IV infusions. It would be far better for them to be able to xray/CT his lungs as well the moment a drop in oxygenation started to happen.

So while yeah, I could see them also being concerned with keeping him out of the public eye... well, if it were President Hillary Clinton (who is a little younger and less overweight but still not a spring chicken), a 10% risk of death for the demographic of 65+ not living in a nursing home (in my state) would have them probably doing the same thing right about now.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
5. Even odds there's a historic announcement before the weekend's out
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 12:26 AM
Oct 2020

Dios Mio

(429 posts)
7. trump has never been in "good spirits".
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 02:05 AM
Oct 2020

It’s a foreign experience.

usajumpedtheshark

(673 posts)
8. Geez, what some people won't due to avoid more debates.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 02:17 AM
Oct 2020

safeinOhio

(38,056 posts)
9. Abundance of caution would include todays version
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 02:24 AM
Oct 2020

of personal hygiene of mask wearing, personal distance and hand washing. Pretty basic stuff.

LisaL

(47,510 posts)
11. I guess it spread far and wide.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 03:13 AM
Oct 2020

It must have been upset when Trump claimed it affects virtually no one.

appalachiablue

(44,193 posts)
12. Hubris
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 04:22 AM
Oct 2020

ResistantAmerican17

(4,188 posts)
14. Drumph has covid. I wish I had that jacket melanoma wore to visit his baby cages because
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:29 AM
Oct 2020

“I really don’t care do you”

Omaha Steve

(110,000 posts)
16. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 10:38 AM
Oct 2020

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