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Omaha Steve

(99,593 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:06 PM Oct 2020

Doctors: Trump continues to improve during virus treatment

Source: AP

By JILL COLVIN, STEVE PEOPLES and JONATHAN LEMIRE

BETHESDA, Md. (AP) — President Donald Trump’s blood oxygen level dropped suddenly on Saturday, but he “has continued to improve,” the White House physician said Sunday, suggesting that Trump could be discharged from the hospital as early as Monday.

Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley sought to clarify contradictory statements and confusion about the president’s condition on the steps of Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, where Trump was being treated for COVID-19.

Conley said the president had a “high fever” and a blood oxygen level below 94% on Friday and again on Saturday. The level currently stands at 98%, Trump’s medical team said.

“The president has continued to improve,” Conley said.



Dr. Sean Conley, physician to President Donald Trump, briefs reporters at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., Sunday, Oct. 4, 2020. Trump was admitted to the hospital after contracting the coronavirus. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-mark-meadows-archive-cac560ef169f9e5343d98a128573194a

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Doctors: Trump continues to improve during virus treatment (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2020 OP
How far below 94 did his 02 drop? MaryMagdaline Oct 2020 #1
I dunno, I'm pretty chipper about it. Lucky Luciano Oct 2020 #9
How hard would it be to give actual numbers? TheRickles Oct 2020 #2
Right. chriscan64 Oct 2020 #21
If so, then why fake pictures of a hard working trump with blank paper? beachbumbob Oct 2020 #3
Right. If he was as bad as the doctor said he was yesterday, they sure as shit didn't..... George II Oct 2020 #8
You can't believe a damn thing these assholes say about anything. BlueStater Oct 2020 #4
Was it really necessary to take him to Walter Reed? LiberalFighter Oct 2020 #5
He needed the cover story. Tommymac Oct 2020 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2020 #6
WOnder what dosage of Hydroxychloraquine hes getting?? oldsoftie Oct 2020 #7
EXACTLY. . . . BigDemVoter Oct 2020 #19
Dr. Zeke Emanuel was just on MSNBC, castrating these lying "Doctors." Paladin Oct 2020 #10
If Trump can be released tomorrow, then he must have a mild case of the virus. Lonestarblue Oct 2020 #11
And if he has a mild case, then why PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #12
Then why add the steroids? Sancho Oct 2020 #13
Steroids are not usually used for a small drop in his oxygen levels... IggleDuer Oct 2020 #16
IF trump was in ANY shape to speak on camera, that would have happened beachbumbob Oct 2020 #14
Maybe Maeve Oct 2020 #15
Is he taking fever reducing drugs, such as aspirin, ibuprofen or Tylenol, etc. IggleDuer Oct 2020 #17
Saw aspirin on a list of meds graphic DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #28
This is total bullshit too. BigDemVoter Oct 2020 #18
Well he could be improving. LisaL Oct 2020 #20
If they release him Monday I'll believe for sure he was faking it. Tommymac Oct 2020 #23
If he WAS faking looking for sympathy votes it looks like that plan backfired. oldsoftie Oct 2020 #24
Impossible to fake it at this point Polybius Oct 2020 #25
What do his lungs look like? gldstwmn Oct 2020 #26
Dexamethasone Not Good News White_Panther_1984 Oct 2020 #27
Doubt he's hanging on by a thread, but DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author louzke9 Oct 2020 #30

TheRickles

(2,057 posts)
2. How hard would it be to give actual numbers?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:15 PM
Oct 2020

How high was the fever, how low was the blood oxygen level, what was his actual blood pressure, etc.? Everybody on Trump's team, even his doctors, plays with the truth.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
21. Right.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:52 PM
Oct 2020

I have never seen a doctor so skilled in political style evasiveness. Of course his patient can't mouth the words "I condemn white supremacy." He may be under instructions to be vague, and is unusually good at it for a doctor.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Right. If he was as bad as the doctor said he was yesterday, they sure as shit didn't.....
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:32 PM
Oct 2020

....get him out of his hospital gown, dress him up and put him in an empty room for a photo op, then quickly changes his clothes and move him to another room for another photo op.

It's been revealed via the statistics of the two photographs were taken less than 10 minutes apart!

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
4. You can't believe a damn thing these assholes say about anything.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:20 PM
Oct 2020

Conley is a much of a puppet as Ronny Jackass was.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
22. He needed the cover story.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:06 PM
Oct 2020

I am still 50/50 if he really has it.

If Dr. Fauci would test him then I would believe 100%

Otherwise I still think that there may be something else going on politically and this is a cover story for it.

I just don't trust him or any of his minions. On anything. Too much polluted water under the bridge.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
10. Dr. Zeke Emanuel was just on MSNBC, castrating these lying "Doctors."
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:35 PM
Oct 2020

All hail Dr. Zeke. And God protect me and my loved ones from trump's dishonest sacks of shit, passing themselves off as honorable, intelligent physicians.

Lonestarblue

(9,977 posts)
11. If Trump can be released tomorrow, then he must have a mild case of the virus.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:42 PM
Oct 2020

It would be nice for other doctors to know just how serious Trump’s symptoms were and how the experimental treatments helped him. That knowledge could help treat other patients, but I suspect nothing will be shared.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
13. Then why add the steroids?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 12:54 PM
Oct 2020

...something in his case caused the docs to start with anti-clonal treatment, then Remdesivir, and now steroids today. That's not the same as take a Tylenol and get some rest.

The O2 or lung pictures or whatever indicates treatment for now. It was probably bad doctoring to state they would discharge him tomorrow. If they don't, then he has lost all credibility (if that's even possible). If they do discharge and MF45 has a relapse then he must be incompetent. I suspect that stupid is INSISTING that they discharge him.

IggleDuer

(964 posts)
16. Steroids are not usually used for a small drop in his oxygen levels...
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020

... unless he also had some respiratory distress, such as wheezing or continued coughing paroxysms.

IggleDuer

(964 posts)
17. Is he taking fever reducing drugs, such as aspirin, ibuprofen or Tylenol, etc.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:10 PM
Oct 2020

Then a drop in fever means little.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
18. This is total bullshit too.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:24 PM
Oct 2020

The second to third weeks are generally when people start to deteriorate, so it is much, much too early to state that he is "improving." I've seen it with my own eyes, as I work in ICU in California. They are fucking lying AGAIN.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
20. Well he could be improving.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Oct 2020

But like you said, his doctors know full well that it doesn't mean much as of yet, when dealing with covid patients.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
23. If they release him Monday I'll believe for sure he was faking it.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:08 PM
Oct 2020

Why did they do it? Don't know.

But the lies (for him and by him) at this point are coming fast and furious.

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
24. If he WAS faking looking for sympathy votes it looks like that plan backfired.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:15 PM
Oct 2020

Nothing new I've seen shows any improvement in the polls for him

27. Dexamethasone Not Good News
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:23 PM
Oct 2020

Stories aren't aligning somewhere. Dexamethasone is reserved for severe cases only. In fact it makes mild cases worse due to its immune suppressing effects. So either they're lying about his med regimen or about his rosy prognosis/possible exit from the hospital tomorrow.

Remdesivir + dexamethasone + IV antibodies is not something mild COVID patients get... even if they are high-profile patients. It could potentially kill you. This isn't "take a Tylenol & go to bed" stuff. Just more chaotic Russian misdirection propaganda tactics IMO. Combined with the staged EXIF data pics I'm taking it all with a huge pillar of salt. He's either not symptomatic at all or hanging on by a thread. But it can't be both.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
29. Doubt he's hanging on by a thread, but
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 02:25 PM
Oct 2020

he's a lot sicker than the docs are saying - or are being allowed to say by the patient himself. Otherwise he'd be demanding his phone and tweeting up a storm about how covid is nothing or other nonsense.

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