Trump Experienced Two Episodes Of 'Drops In Oxygen' Since Coronavirus Diagnosis

[BlueWavePsych]

Source: Forbes

President Donald Trump’s doctors, who are treating him for coronavirus at Walter Reed Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, said the president has experienced two drops in oxygen and is now being treated with steroids since his diagnosis in a Sunday briefing, but added his health is improving.

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However, he added Trump has had “frequent ups and downs,” especially considering he’s been monitored on a 24-hour basis by his team of doctors since being admitted Friday.

Conley said Trump has experienced two drops in oxygen levels since his diagnosis: once on Friday, and once on Saturday.


Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/10/04/trump-experienced-two-episodes-of-drops-in-oxygen-since-coronavirus-diagnosis/

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Steroids. Usually given when there are signs of a cytokine storm.

[Wicked Blue]

1. What do drops to 94% and 93% indicate? Does anyone on DU know?

Those were the numbers cited in the link

[bamagal62]

2. Well, then he said, "it never went into the low 80s".

[Politicub]

4. Which means it was in the 80s

Just not in the “low 80s.” Which could be 83 or so.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

3. Below 90% needs medical intervention

I had two family members with COPD and am familiar with this. I don't think he got oxygen for 93% sats, think it had to be lower

[Wicked Blue]

6. Thank you

Everything about this situation is confusing. Maybe on purpose.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

7. Yep n/t

[hlthe2b]

24. Except for those living at altitude, I might add. The nation's premiere respiratory hospital,

(National. Jewish in Denver) reminds those of us in the mile-high city or elsewhere that normals are a bit lower because of altitude here.

Treatment for those who reside and are habituated to altitude for low oxygen saturation is necessary below 88, whereas at sea level, treatment occurs below 94% on room air (or 3% decrease from baseline for those with respiratory conditions/disease).

[Just_Vote_Dem]

25. Question

When you say treatment for below 94%-do you mean supplemental oxygen, or something like an inhaler? Personally, my normal is around 94-95%. I do have sleep apnea.

[hlthe2b]

26. Then you fit the criteria of needing oxygen when your oxygen sat is 3% below your regular baseline.

Sleep apnea, COPD, asthma, and other lung disease/conditions will have a lower baseline oxygen level.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

28. Thank you!

You said it more clearly than most of my docs

[hlthe2b]

30. Obviously you also have to factor in how you FEEL (and not just a measurement)

If you feel considerably short of breath, seek care.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

31. You got it

Thanks again

[Randomthought]

27. Asthma caused mine to drop to 95%

Doctors got a little excited and I felt like death warmed over.

[LiberalArkie]

34. Mine drops to about 85% all the time, but normally about 94-96. 77 yr old male with bad heart

[uppityperson]

37. If you have good lungs, hold your breath. When you feel you absolutely must breath

you are around 90. Low 80s is really bad.

When asked why he didn't disclose oxygen treatment yesterday, Conley responded, “I was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude” of the president, and said, “I didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction. It came off that we were trying to hide something which wasn't necessarily true. The fact is he's doing well."

Wtf? How does being honest steer the course of an illness?

[MaryMagdaline]

5. Upper 90s is ideal; mid nineties should be carefully monitored

90 or below is dangerous!

His doctor side stepped that question (whether he got below 90)

I’m not a doctor. My husband had sarcoidosis and we checked oxygen several times per day. He was on steroids because his lungs were damaged.

[gristy]

19. I'm at 97 right now

[MaryMagdaline]

22. I'm always around 96 to 97. This is the over the counter O2 device

It's weird how I rarely hit 98.

[brush]

21. There's talk of releasing him tomorrow. That must be bs if his O2 levels...

may drop again. I can just imagine trump at the next debate, a town hall format with citizens asking questions, imagine trump with an oxygen tank, or a doctor standing by with one.

They can't be serious about releasing him tomorrow just to show that he's so strong he beat it when he could have a relapse at any time.

[C Moon]

33. I think that will be the next campaign strategy. "I survived COVID" and some will eat it up.

[CrispyQ]

8. They have zero credibility. We can't believe anything they tell us.

This is the reality TV presidency. They aren't even bright enough to have him sign something that looks like a real document.

[napi21]

9. I believe that indicates pneumonia. I didn't have Covid19 but I did experience pneumonia & lower

oxygen levels. I went to the hosp. because I was having difficulty breathing. This was last Fall before Covid 19 was even known. If his Docs aren't going to be truthful they should just stop all their Presssers!

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

11. yeah. i have copd and had a bad exacerbation in jan.

went to a walk-in clinic and got a breathing treatment.
i was at 94. they didnt rly want to send me home. made me promise to go the the er if it got ANY worse.
but i was the only one in the clinic wearing a mask. not the nurse practitioner that saw me or the respiratory tech that did the treatment. i got my inhalers and toughed i out.
they also didnt test me for the plague. i was hoping that it was what it was, and i was over worrying. no such luck.

[AZ8theist]

39. If I went to a clinic and saw the workers not wearing masks...

I would have left IMMEDIATELY.

The HEIGHT of irresponsibility....RIDICULOUS. I can spend my limited medical dollars elsewhere....

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

40. thing is, i thought this system was on top of it.

this is the university of chicago's system. they had their own tests and were testing their employees in dec.
i was too sick to panic at the time. the nurse was pregnant to boot.
i still cant believe they didnt test me.

[usaf-vet]

18. Trump has alway hidden or lied about his numbers. He lied before the 2016 election.

He has lied or hidden the facts about everything.
His wealth.
His taxes.
His extramarital affairs.
His "Nobel Prizes".
His GPA and grades in schools.
His health.
His inauguration crowd size.
His "A.. big a Brain".
His "Smarts".
His work ethic.

And now he will lie about his actual health status. Or force others to lie when he can't

Well, you get the point.

[flamingdem]

10. 94% is not a big deal

Sure they'll watch it but some people who are healthy get those numbers.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

12. Right

For some people that can actually be normal

[LisaL]

14. That's my oxygen level and I don't have covid.

NT

[Just_Vote_Dem]

16. Yep, they usually don't get concerned unless it's under 90 n/t

[bucolic_frolic]

13. Regeneron! Remdesivir! Dexamethasone! O2!

When will his hair fall out?

[LisaL]

15. Hasn't that already happened quite some time ago?

NT

[usaf-vet]

20. When the glue holding it on wears out.

[mountain grammy]

42. ...

[MLAA]

17. Husband has COPD

His normal oxygen saturation is 94-95. Occasionally dips to 92-93. Have him do pursed lip breathing and brings it back up to 94-95. Below 90 is time to worry and act.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

23. That was on Fri. Trump was probably on oxygen on Sat. Conley said that he would

have to ask trump's nursing staff if he was administered oxygen on Sat., which means he most likely was and perhaps most of the day. I believe he has pneumonia. When asked about the results of his lung x-rays, Conley replied that they were what was expected. What the hell does that mean? The "doctors" press conference raised more doubts than answers.

[Tess49]

29. Agree. We still don't know anything. Dr. Gupta is visibly pissed by the lack of transparency.

[SWBTATTReg]

32. I suspect that if he's given steroids, that his body requirements for oxygen would increase?

Just asking. Makes sense to me, and doesn't make sense that giving steroids would really help, since it would appear to drain the body's oxygen levels even more so. I'm no medical person what-so-ever.

[ancianita]

35. Were those drops before or after this?

[Calista241]

36. Funny how we're not talking about his taxes anymore. n/t

[BlueWavePsych]

38. Here's ya go ...

The Hill: Drumpf's Tax Returns. Who are Drumpf's creditors?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214208210

[SergeStorms]

41. Wait, isn't this god's will?

And when someone is as religiously devout as Donald Trump they should never try to subvert god's will, correct? I'd think every evangelical christian would agree with that statement. If they don't, they'd better get right with jebus real quick! Denying god Trump's soul, which is god's personal property, is a sin against god. Evangelicals have a lot of soul searching to do on this question.