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BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 05:26 PM Oct 2020

White House aide says physician withheld health specifics to lift Trump's spirits

Source: Axios

White House communications director Alyssa Farah said Sunday that White House physician Sean Conley withheld specific details at Saturday's press briefing about Donald Trump's medical condition in order to "convey confidence" and "raise the spirits" of the president.

Conley and the White House have come under intense criticism after Chief of Staff Mark Meadows provided an anonymous statement to reporters on Saturday saying that Trump had a "very concerning" period on Friday, contradicting the more rosy assessment Conley had provided in a television briefing just moments earlier.

Pressed by Axios' Alayna Treene at a briefing earlier on Sunday, Conley said he was "trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team, the president, his course of illness has had."

"I didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction, and in doing so, you know, it came off that we were trying to hide something, which wasn't necessarily true," Conley added.


Read more: https://www.axios.com/white-house-conley-trump-oxygen-69e7e956-6b73-494a-aec7-45f82006c6b3.html



Sounds familiar ...



'I don't want to create panic': Trump defends coronavirus remarks he made to Bob Woodward – video
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/sep/09/trump-coronavirus-bob-woodward-book-rage

This time lying to Drumpf and the rest of the world at the same time. Seems infectious.
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White House aide says physician withheld health specifics to lift Trump's spirits (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 OP
More lies. That's bullshit! Trump told him to lie. Under the bus, Conley goes tulipsandroses Oct 2020 #1
Gets worse ... Trump's medical team briefing reveals things are worse than we knew BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #3
How does it make any sense? The president knew he was on oxygen. How would it lift his spirits to kn soothsayer Oct 2020 #2
Lying makes him happy. n/y Chemisse Oct 2020 #7
Yeah, right. Trump is on the roof then? Solly Mack Oct 2020 #4
Lmao! XanaDUer2 Oct 2020 #5
This Is All BS GB_RN Oct 2020 #6
That's Probably Why The Reporter Asked... ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #11
My Pleasure GB_RN Oct 2020 #13
The president is not your average patient and standard rules don't apply. Steelrolled Oct 2020 #14
Meadows Already Gave Away The Game GB_RN Oct 2020 #15
Translation: I lie, you cannot believe anything I say. TNNurse Oct 2020 #8
What happened to anti-science pro-Darwinism? bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #9
He was clinically depressed? Running in circles crying he was gonna die? Need videos Baclava Oct 2020 #10
What will really lift his spirits is to meet with Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham IronLionZion Oct 2020 #12
Making a lot of excuses for corruption. TeamPooka Oct 2020 #16
"which wasn't necessarily true" equals "we were probably trying to hide something" (nt) pat_k Oct 2020 #17
Pneumonia likely. scipan Oct 2020 #18
Looking for a place to post this. Here seems reasonable. TryLogic Oct 2020 #19

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
3. Gets worse ... Trump's medical team briefing reveals things are worse than we knew
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 05:32 PM
Oct 2020
The president had trouble breathing Saturday morning and had started a drug used only for severe or critical cases of Covid-19.

President Donald Trump’s doctors at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center revealed Sunday that the president’s condition is more serious than the White House has so far acknowledged.

“I didn’t want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction,” Sean Conley, the president’s physician, told reporters during a hospital briefing. “In doing so, it came off that we were trying to hide something, which wasn’t necessarily true.”

The decision to give Trump dexamethasone shows that “he’s actually having effects on his lungs from the virus,” said Abraar Karan, an internal medicine doctor at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/04/covid-19-trump-medical-team-briefing-426025

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
2. How does it make any sense? The president knew he was on oxygen. How would it lift his spirits to kn
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 05:29 PM
Oct 2020

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Jennifer Taub
@jentaub
How does it make any sense? The president knew he was on oxygen. How would it lift his spirits to know that the public was being lied about the oxygen. Wouldn’t that make him more worried that it was serious?

Josh Campbell
@joshscampbell
White House communication director says a reason the President's doctor was not forthcoming during a globally-televised press conference about the health of the most powerful person in the world is because the doc wanted to lift Trump's spirits, which she calls a common practice.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
4. Yeah, right. Trump is on the roof then?
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 05:35 PM
Oct 2020

LMAO.

How long would they wait to tell Trump he's dead? So as to not dampen his spirit.

GB_RN

(2,337 posts)
6. This Is All BS
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 06:05 PM
Oct 2020

They said his blood O2 dropped below 95% (causing the trip to Walter Reed) and below 93%, causing them to give dexamethasone. Major, MAJOR bullshit. In the hospital, outside of a procedural or emergency setting, we don't give O2 unless a patient is BELOW 90%. They wouldn't give dexamethasone unless he was below 90%, for an extended period of time and supplemental O2 wasn't helping. And, they usually have to have pneumonia to get dexamethasone, as those are the patients it’s been shown to help. Everything they've said is either a gross misstatement or outright lie.

ProfessorGAC

(64,869 posts)
11. That's Probably Why The Reporter Asked...
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 08:31 PM
Oct 2020

...if the Blood O2 got into the 80s. That's was when his reply was "...never in the low 80s...". Although that wasn't the question. The reporter might have gotten info like you just provided. It would make sense to ask about " in the 80s."
Good info, GB.

GB_RN

(2,337 posts)
13. My Pleasure
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 09:11 PM
Oct 2020

Most people don't know or understand this (or any) medical terminology, so I wanted to provide it for people here. I mean, you can be sitting in your chair at home and be between 95-100% O2 saturation. Hard exercise, like running, and you're obviously going to be lower - but that's not a medical emergency unless you pass out.

So, for reference: Normal blood oxygen level 95-100%*
Low normal blood O2: 90-94%*
Below 90% is considered "Desaturated". You may hear that the patient "is desating".

*Now, an exception to the rule for this is for patients with COPD (emphysema/chronic bronchitis): Their blood oxygen levels can be considered "normal" at around 88%. And we DON'T give extra O2 to get them back into the 90s, because due to the mechanism of COPD, that will actually shut down their drive to breathe. This may be more info than people want, but there it is anyway. 😁

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
14. The president is not your average patient and standard rules don't apply.
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 09:19 PM
Oct 2020

He is surrounded by doctors, and I imagine that any treatment that might help and will not harm, would be considered. As you probably know, doctors break standard rules all the time, even with normal patients.

GB_RN

(2,337 posts)
15. Meadows Already Gave Away The Game
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 09:31 PM
Oct 2020

He already said his vitals were "concerning" and that's why he was sent to WRH. He was on O2 before he walked out to Marine 1 (likely because he had to have it in order to be ABLE to walk out).

Everyone in the WH - and Dolt45 - is pissed at Meadows for making that statement. So here's my take: If Meadows was lying, then no one would be pissed at him; they'd have played along. Then, low and behold! tRump recovers super quick!

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
12. What will really lift his spirits is to meet with Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham
Sun Oct 4, 2020, 08:52 PM
Oct 2020

indoors without masks and talk very closely for a long time about how to own the libs

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
17. "which wasn't necessarily true" equals "we were probably trying to hide something" (nt)
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 02:42 AM
Oct 2020

Not "necessarily true" = probably (but maybe not) true.

In other words, we were probably trying to hide something.




scipan

(2,341 posts)
18. Pneumonia likely.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:57 PM
Oct 2020

He had low O2 and was having trouble breathing. It's not a stretch to think he has pneumonia.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
19. Looking for a place to post this. Here seems reasonable.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 01:31 PM
Oct 2020

Something needs to be done about misinformation that affects health, safety, or national security.

Free speech is, of course, very important to the survival of a democracy, but too much of a good thing can be a serious problem. Our democracy is currently in serious danger because of misinformation. Surely it is possible to outlaw public dissemination of false or misleading information that endangers health, safety, or national security.

We must not let a rigid, irrational, overly literal interpretation of the First Amendment lead to our downfall.

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