White House identifies 206 people possibly exposed to COVID at Trump fundraiser
Source: Axios
The White House has given New Jersey health officials a list of at least 206 people who may have been exposed to the coronavirus at a fundraiser event attended by President Trump in Bedminster last week, the state's department of health tweeted Sunday.
Why it matters: The president has come under criticism for choosing to attend the event at the Trump National Golf Club on Thursday even after close aide Hope Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus. White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters Trump "socially distanced, it was an outdoor event and it was deemed safe by a White House operations for him to attend that event," per ABC News.
What they're saying: "The contact tracing process is ongoing. Attendees that are seeking a test should consider waiting at least 5-7 days from the event. While the risk is low, a negative test earlier than that time cannot definitively rule out that COVID-19 will not develop," the New Jersey Health Department tweeted.
"Those who are concerned that they were in close contact should quarantine for 14 days. New Jersey officials have been informed that the federal government is also conducting contact tracing," the department added. Officials are "interviewing staff members of the club and assessing the level of contact they had with the President and his staff and providing public health recommendations accordingly."
Read more: https://www.axios.com/white-house-trump-fundraiser-covid-d718b096-8282-4345-84a7-bc3a69f4ff6e.html
I expect that Murphy is pissed.
There was apparently a "private" get together between 45 and the biggest donors (which I think I read lasted maybe 45 minutes or so). This was separate from the larger gathering.
= new reply since forum marked as read
I was in a panic because I had just posted a new thread about the kids at last weekend's event too. Glad that I didn't need to delete it.
Sorry for me being so confused earlier. 
I only skimmed the OP of this thread, then your reply sent me into a confused panic because it was right after I had created a new thread about the kids. Lol!
and people there had apparently been infected, yet went about their business including 45, who then went on to the debate on Tuesday, 9/29 and then to Duluth, MN on 9/30, and finally to Bedminister on 10/1.
to an already stressful year.
and couldn't remember who it was until I saw the pic - Josh Hawley (who is in the center of the pic near the wall) -
angry? Or maybe they just don't care?...
Kayleigh McEnany and Jared Kushner were stopped from attending, sources say.
By Olivia Rubin, Matthew Mosk, Katherine Faulders, and Miles Cohen
October 4, 2020, 6:02 AM
• 6 min read
[snip]
About 100 guests attended the event with some donating $50,000 to snap photos with the president on Thursday and roughly 20 sat with him at an hour-long roundtable discussion. Several said the president's diagnosis and hospitalization have been both bewildering and frightening. Four people at the club that day told ABC News they are quarantining or getting tests.
"I stayed 6 feet away from the president at all times as well, but out of an abundance of caution have quarantined myself until I can be tested," said Daniel Hux, who attended the fundraiser, said in a statement to ABC News.
Campaign officials and a number of those who attended continue to maintain that Trump kept a safe buffer between himself and the guests, who spent as much as $250,000 to attend the exclusive fundraiser with the president. Several of those interviewed by ABC News said they never saw anyone within 6 feet of the president -- even those who waited on line to enter the Bedminster club house to pose for photos with him. "When that photo was taken, all the event staff were wearing masks, all the campaign staff were wearing masks, Secret Service was wearing masks," said Charlie Kolean, who plans to get tested on Sunday. "And I've been [self-quarantining] in a responsible manner," he added.
[snip]
Those who attended the gathering at Bedminster and spoke with reporters said they saw no indication that the president was sick. Several, like Hermes, said they remained unfazed by the possibility that Trump could have exposed people at the event. "I don't know about all that," she said when asked about the timeline of the diagnosis. "He looked awesome, he was smiling, he was happy."
[snip]
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/high-dollar-trump-donors-bedminster-hob-knobbing-now/story?id=73409992
We're never going to get rid of this.
These folks weren't really from New Jersey, so it's all good.
Gotta laugh to keep from cryin'.to open up more stuff. And what happens, people from here in Philly run across the bridge to Jersey, then go to some big house party at the shore, get infected, and then bring that shit right back here! 
They are currently going through a spike in Ocean County, NJ right now.
and not count weekends as a "day". 
from that Rose Garden event, continued on until someone leaked that Hope Hicks tested positive. And even after that, I expect they completely dismissed it and potentially spread it even further for days until one by one, the positives came flying in.
And it's unfortunate that since they are apparently using some kind of rapid test that keeps telling them they are (falsely) "negative" when they might be pre-symptomatic, the potential spread is breathtaking. Guarantee that there will be those who are testing positive that might never reported.
And the other thing that gets me is that it's hardly just us - it's the entire world and we've had all this time to turn to other countries for an example of how to deal with this successfully. And thanks to Bob Woodward, we now know that Trump knew and understood the perilous implications in plenty of time to take the necessary precautions - but he chose to ignore it and thousands of Americans are now sick or dead! There is no excuse, he is responsible! And yet he still has governors and senators who have to know better by now who are following his lead! How history will deal with this idiocy is beyond me...
is with all the articles, broadcasts, ads literally everywhere (TV, radio, newspapers, internet) with basic "guidance", people still say "I don't know what to do?" when told that they might have been exposed.
Unfortunately the guidance IS intrusive. Because the damn virus IS relentless.
I know there was a remark in another post that the GOP has suddenly taken the CDC's guidance of "14-day" self-quarantine and dropped that down to "10 days". 
We know a lot about what to do by now because other countries which were infected first shared their experiences! We are a global community now, after all. Israel had a rapid spread when they opened their schools, only to have to shut them down again. So what did we do? Rather than learn from their terrible experience, the state of Georgia opened their schools in the middle of summer! And schools opened here in my New York district as well - the second week in September. Cases are rare enough in these parts that they make the front page of the local paper - and we now have had a case in the local elementary school and just last week another was reported at the high school - a teacher.
And it's not like we don't have our own "experts," but Dr. Fauci's news briefings were turned into a Trump bombast session! And he knew at that point how serious this was! We know what to do, but any governor or local official with any ties to Trump is choosing to put their citizens in jeopardy of avoidable illness and death! Is the "bubble" really that blinding?? 
And here I thought that I'd been shocked enough for this week - but I turned on the news tonight to see Trump - who we were told was quarantining in the hospital - driving around putting aides and Secret Service in danger and waving to his hypnotized "supporters" like a Rose Bowl queen! 
you can't open up places that could enhance a rapid infection - like enclosed facilities without some extreme mitigation that is costly.
I have read articles that every once in a while will broach the subject of HEPA filters. And although they are not perfect for the very finest particles of viruses, they DO help to capture droplets that are too small to be stopped by a mask but big enough to be caught by the filter.
For the long term, there really needs to be what should be considered "masking-up a building with a (HEPA) filter".
And yes - I was streaming CNN yesterday and looked up and saw the fiasco on Rockville Pike (I have been along that stretch many times and it's also right near the big NIH campus). The media were whining about their press pool "not being told" what the President's schedule was and that this was going to happen, and how not contacting them breached precedent.
Well DAMMIT - "not following precedent" has been the STANDARD operating procedure for this administration SINCE DAY ONE. It was their main campaign theme in 2015/2016. And for some idiotic reason, they keep expecting something different.
And we're still learning as we go how to deal with all this. Filters would be ideal in any enclosed places, but we need to learn what's effective and that takes time. Putting kids in enclosed places before we learn how to keep them safe makes absolutely no sense at all. So many who work in offices are still working at home for the foreseeable future, but it's okay to send active kids back to the classroom? Out of curiosity, I took a look at my own elementary school's website - and the complicated plans for the combination of virtual and classroom learning, health checks, plans for meals and transportation gave me a headache just trying to follow all of it...
As for colleges, the paper reported one SUNY university that shut down and sent kids home after only two weeks because of a spike in cases. And I know a couple who has two kids in college - both in Pennsylvania. The son is in his first year, has already been sent home - and the daughter has stayed, lives in an apartment and is attending virtual classes. But the parents are frustrated since they paid so much for tuition and both of their kids are missing out on any kind of college experience. 
As for Trump I couldn't agree more. With the press, it's a case of having seen this unpredictable blowhard in action for over 4 years - but STILL expecting different results!
The PRESIDENT is a walking TYPHOID MARY... he is KILLING people who get exposed to him... Whether or not he has gun on 5th Avenue or ends up killing a bunch of his fan club...does it even fucking matter??? 
