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brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:27 AM Oct 2020

A West Wing meltdown

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Axios

Frustration and anxiety built among White House staffers, who say they went days with no internal communication from Meadows about protocols and procedures — including whether they should show up to work — as COVID tore through the West Wing.

By contrast, the first lady’s chief of staff, Stephanie Grisham, emailed her staff on Saturday advising them to work from home and reminding them of CDC guidance.

And the vice president’s chief, Marc Short, emailed his senior staff at 3 a.m. Friday with an update on the president’s situation and urged them to work from home. Short also had a conference call with his staff on Saturday to take questions and explain the protocol and situation.

A senior White House official said it was "ridiculous'" that there had been no proper internal communication from the chief or operations officials since COVID started rapidly infecting their colleagues: "A bunch of us are talking about it and just gonna make the calls on our own."

Read more: https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-mark-meadows-west-wing-65fb1a74-59b4-4cb3-9326-47aa7d83b946.html

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A West Wing meltdown (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Wow. These people are inspiring, aren't they, in showing the Country just how much they are in... SWBTATTReg Oct 2020 #1
It's like our country is in Free-Fall Mike 03 Oct 2020 #2
And Nancy Pelosi ananda Oct 2020 #3
+1 Mike 03 Oct 2020 #4
Yup. Heck, they might as well all abdicate & let Joe take over now given the level of chaos going on onetexan Oct 2020 #20
"Pre-scheduled"? PatSeg Oct 2020 #9
Nothing inspires confidence quite like: central scrutinizer Oct 2020 #5
Still looking for the last copy of Obama's Pandemic Response Plan FakeNoose Oct 2020 #21
Without proper computer and phone safeguards Delmette2.0 Oct 2020 #6
Most agencies provide encrypted/secure laptops for staff at the worksite and for remote home use BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #8
Anything Obama did was wrong according to -45. Delmette2.0 Oct 2020 #12
It would be another genuine source of outrage Blackjackdavey Oct 2020 #14
That HSPD-12 Directive came out under Shrub in 2005 (HS standing for "Homeland Security") BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #15
I think we can agree Blackjackdavey Oct 2020 #17
From day one, when they spent a year avoiding the background checks for Jared and crew BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #18
"But her e-mails!!!" pazzyanne Oct 2020 #13
I'm sure Trump will write $50k checks for the best experimental drugs for all those infected Baclava Oct 2020 #7
They're very good businessmen-types, really skilled in being executives and the like greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #10
Zero sympathy for anyone "working" in this White House BlueNProud Oct 2020 #11
The Rose Garden Plague will go down in White House history...the only question is how many... Sancho Oct 2020 #16
Agencies were/are all required to have a COOP per past Presidential Directives BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #19
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Oct 2020 #22

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
1. Wow. These people are inspiring, aren't they, in showing the Country just how much they are in...
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:31 AM
Oct 2020

control and on top of things!

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. It's like our country is in Free-Fall
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:41 AM
Oct 2020

Joe Biden is the closest thing we have to a president.

EDIT: This:

The White House finally emailed staff with guidance at 8:18 last night — about 15 minutes after Axios contacted the press shop for a story about the lack of guidance. A senior official insisted the guidance email was "pre-scheduled."

ananda

(28,856 posts)
3. And Nancy Pelosi
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:43 AM
Oct 2020

..

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. +1
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 08:44 AM
Oct 2020

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
20. Yup. Heck, they might as well all abdicate & let Joe take over now given the level of chaos going on
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 01:30 PM
Oct 2020

PatSeg

(47,357 posts)
9. "Pre-scheduled"?
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 10:22 AM
Oct 2020

What the hell is that suppose to mean? If something is scheduled, that already implies the "pre".

All of this brings to mind the show "Designated Survivor", as we watch heads of government succumb to the virus. This would make an interesting disaster movie, though perhaps a bit too bizarre to be believable.

central scrutinizer

(11,639 posts)
5. Nothing inspires confidence quite like:
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 09:13 AM
Oct 2020

"A bunch of us are talking about it and just gonna make the calls on our own."

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
21. Still looking for the last copy of Obama's Pandemic Response Plan
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 02:21 PM
Oct 2020

There has to be copy here somewhere. Do you mean we threw them ALL OUT? Holy shit!


Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
6. Without proper computer and phone safeguards
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 09:26 AM
Oct 2020

No one on any of these staffs should be able just log on to White House access. Their home computers are not secure and it can take weeks to get all that in place.

Telling the public that VP and FLOTUS staff can work from home on unsecured computers is totally unreasonable.

BumRushDaShow

(128,730 posts)
8. Most agencies provide encrypted/secure laptops for staff at the worksite and for remote home use
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 10:18 AM
Oct 2020

which is why they have gotten away from using desktops and have gone with laptops and/or tablets. Access was supposed to be by some HSPD standard photo ID - e.g., PIV/CaC ID card. These have fingerprints and other data stored on a chip and the card provides authorized access to facilities and campuses, buildings, elevators in some buildings, floors in some buildings, and rooms in buildings, as well as to computers with a smartcard reader.

But then since we're talking about the WH and they made sure to set everything up so that it was "anti-anything-Obama-did-despite-it-being-a-law", then...

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
12. Anything Obama did was wrong according to -45.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 10:47 AM
Oct 2020

I would be pleasantly surprised if they all had proper the proper security you described. I have my fingers crossed.

Blackjackdavey

(178 posts)
14. It would be another genuine source of outrage
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 11:36 AM
Oct 2020

to learn that they aren't capable of securely telecommuting at the drop of a hat already. You know, like normal workplaces have been doing for the last six months...

BumRushDaShow

(128,730 posts)
15. That HSPD-12 Directive came out under Shrub in 2005 (HS standing for "Homeland Security")
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 11:51 AM
Oct 2020

and has been updated at various times since that time (as the tech improved).

But because the GOP likes using their own personal devices and email for "official government business" while pointing their fingers at people like Hillary, then I wouldn't put it past them to be in complete disarray now.

And as a retired fed, I will tell you that the whole process of getting one of those cards is a doozy, and that includes getting them updated (they have expiration dates), getting them programmed correctly for the places that you need to access (including buildings at other OPDIVS/TDYs outside of your own office if/when needed/authorized), and turning them in when you leave the agency or retire.

Blackjackdavey

(178 posts)
17. I think we can agree
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:17 PM
Oct 2020

they are definitely in disarray now and what you described requires competence, foresight and planning so....

BumRushDaShow

(128,730 posts)
18. From day one, when they spent a year avoiding the background checks for Jared and crew
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:28 PM
Oct 2020

as they all illegally accessed government facilities and property, and then after much blow-back, eventually had the clearances hand-waved into existence, then yes, there is as problem there.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
13. "But her e-mails!!!"
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 11:16 AM
Oct 2020

No one is at all concerned about unsecured by this administration it is not a problem. Disgusting!

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
7. I'm sure Trump will write $50k checks for the best experimental drugs for all those infected
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 10:06 AM
Oct 2020
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
10. They're very good businessmen-types, really skilled in being executives and the like
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 10:27 AM
Oct 2020

What a fucking clown show.

BlueNProud

(1,048 posts)
11. Zero sympathy for anyone "working" in this White House
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 10:44 AM
Oct 2020

This is just another version of the same wreckless bullshit that Dump and everyone associated with him has inflicted on all of us. Too late to start whining now. Send the fucker home from Walter Reed so he can infect everyone in the executive branch. Fine by me.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
16. The Rose Garden Plague will go down in White House history...the only question is how many...
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 11:56 AM
Oct 2020

...will win a Darwin Award?

https://darwinawards.com

BumRushDaShow

(128,730 posts)
19. Agencies were/are all required to have a COOP per past Presidential Directives
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 01:02 PM
Oct 2020

(COOP = Continuity of Operations Plan). These usually include "call trees" where (by some method) an employee gets contact (by phone or text or email) notifying them that the plan is in effect and giving them any further instructions.

But as we know, all rules were thrown out.

Omaha Steve

(99,566 posts)
22. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:47 PM
Oct 2020

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