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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:52 AM Oct 2020

Trump campaign canceling ads in Ohio and Iowa

Source: The Hill

President Trump’s campaign is canceling planned television ads in Ohio and Iowa for this week to instead focus funding in states where polls show the president trailing Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

The president’s reelection campaign canceled $2.5 million in ads in Ohio and $820,000 in ads in Iowa, according to ad-tracking firm CMAG, CNN reported Monday.

This week will be the third week in a row without Trump TV ads in the two Midwestern states as polls show a deadlocked race between Trump and Biden.

A Sunday CBS/YouGov poll determined the candidates were tied in Ohio at 47 percent each, and a New York Times/Siena College poll late last month showed Biden at 45 percent and Trump at 42 percent in Iowa.

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Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/519766-trump-canceling-ads-in-ohio-and-iowa?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true

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Trump campaign canceling ads in Ohio and Iowa (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2020 OP
Gonna need every dollar for legal defense fund. Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #1
They have to assume they will win states where they're up even a little greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #2
If I were a Trump campaign donor at Bedminster, I'd get my money back. Lonestarblue Oct 2020 #6
Those donors are powerful. They'll get back something, somehow. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #26
one more time - his strategy isn't to win the popular vote.... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #8
Sure thing, buddy greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #9
what part isn't clear? getagrip_already Oct 2020 #13
I don't think anyone here is being la la la..far from it Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #17
Thank you..a voice of sanity Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #19
Yep,it has never been about winning the popular vote, but by stopping everyone from voting, lark Oct 2020 #10
That theory has been hammered here to death! They may try but it's just not possible Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #15
interesting article, but it misses the point.... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #21
So,his campaign is Wellstone ruled Oct 2020 #3
No sense in spending anywhere the cheat is in bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #4
That was my first thought also..... if the vote is close enough they can 'fix' it. groundloop Oct 2020 #7
Those are the states they'll flood with Attorneys. SergeStorms Oct 2020 #24
From the OP link BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #5
My father lives on the Illinois-Iowa border (Illini side) rpannier Oct 2020 #11
Thank You JohnnyRingo Oct 2020 #12
He's depending on Putin in tight state races. Tommymac Oct 2020 #14
I was under the impression he was losing IA and OH in recent polling. Gore1FL Oct 2020 #16
Trump is banking on wannabe Roy Cohns and Alito, Thomas and Amy the Asshole NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #18
Please stop...doom and gloom at a time when we NEED to focus on GOTV is not helpful Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #20
There is no doom and gloom, just facts. NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #22
this will help DRIVE the vote - EARLY!!!! getagrip_already Oct 2020 #23
As we say in Chicago, "Vote Early, Vote Often" ... aggiesal Oct 2020 #25
Arizona videohead5 Oct 2020 #27
Sickly Don's campaign is broke! BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #28
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
2. They have to assume they will win states where they're up even a little
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:56 AM
Oct 2020

To concentrate on states they need where they're way behind.

Ohio and Iowa might both be close, but other states they need are slipping away. They have to put money into those and simply roll the dice on the states where they think they already have a slight foothold.

If I was a Trump campaign donor, I'd wonder why the incumbent President of the Big Tax Cuts seems to be struggling with cash flow in October. Where'd the money go?

Lonestarblue

(9,984 posts)
6. If I were a Trump campaign donor at Bedminster, I'd get my money back.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:08 AM
Oct 2020

It’s not nice to meet with big-money donors knowing you have the virus. They might decide not to be your donors.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
8. one more time - his strategy isn't to win the popular vote....
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:11 AM
Oct 2020

It's to win the searing in ceremony. They are stopping political ads because they aren't a driver for their strategy. They are working on a strategy to split the ec votes between state legislature appointed electors and state governor submitted electors.

Take PA for example. The state legislature is actively planning to vote on and submit their own slate of electors, without ever sending it to the governor. there are 4 states with a gop congress and a dem governor who could do exactly the same thing, and 2 with all gop leaders including fl.

That will set up a court battle that will end in a 6-3 scotus.

This isn't a joke. It isn't a conspiracy theory. It isn't meant to suppress the vote.

All they need is a claim that the vote is suspect so they will do their constitutional duty to "correct a wrong".

Yes, they are planning to steal the election by ignoring the popular vote.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
9. Sure thing, buddy
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:17 AM
Oct 2020

First off, nothing I said implies that their strategy is to win the popular vote. That ship has likely sailed. They do, however, plan to win the states they need.

They obviously have plans to contest if that's useful for them (as do all campaigns, all the time), but your scenario is just fear-mongering at this point, and not particularly explanatory either.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
13. what part isn't clear?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:47 AM
Oct 2020

It's a fact they aren't running ads in states that need them. They claim to be shifting their buys to states where they are behind, but there is no evidence they are. They have cancelled ads in the very states they say they are investing.

All we see are cancelled ads.

Fear mongering? That is pure bs. THEY have said this is exactly what they are going to do. And I'm not alone pointing this out. Just check google; dkos has run posts on it as have most of the progressive blog sites. nd severl main stream outlets have also written stories on it, quoting actual gop leaders. Just look it up.

When the gop tells us what they are going to do, and visibly plans to do it, we should what, stick our heads in the sand and go la-la-la?

No. This IS their plan. They have said so. The trump campaign has geared up for it with a formidable legal staff beyond the doj. The doj just announced they will be sending fbi agents to monitor the elections. Sure. Ok. Nothing to see there.

We can thwart it, but only by getting people to vote as EARLY as possible if they are voting ahead of election day. Don't wait until your ballot is almost due. Get it in early.

I've seen these personal attacks far too often. It's almost like they are coordinated to blunt the outrage.

They are planning to steal the election. la-la-la indeed.

Thekaspervote

(32,762 posts)
17. I don't think anyone here is being la la la..far from it
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:23 AM
Oct 2020

We cannot stop their plans to try and steal the election, and of course they are going to try. We can stop reacting and talking about what they might do, which is what we the la la folks are doing with Positive posts, GOTV, and not letting them lead us around by the nose with fear. That’s what they want! I REFUSE to do that

https://verdict.justia.com/2020/09/30/no-republicans-cannot-throw-the-presidential-election-into-the-house-so-that-trump-wins

https://election.princeton.edu/2020/08/13/how-hard-is-it-to-steal-the-election/

lark

(23,097 posts)
10. Yep,it has never been about winning the popular vote, but by stopping everyone from voting,
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:17 AM
Oct 2020

claim there's fraud and let the rw SCOTUS steal the election despite the clear wish of the people. He plans on us being a total dictatorship, while still using the name USA, but invalidating or ignoring every law we have to protect us against rich rapacious criminals like him and his BFF's.

Thekaspervote

(32,762 posts)
15. That theory has been hammered here to death! They may try but it's just not possible
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:14 AM
Oct 2020

If you really...really want to understand how this will play out and why it will fail, study the link provided.

As pointed out in the article by constitutional law attorneys/professors, red legislators cannot subvert election law and by pass the governor..and that’s just for starters

https://verdict.justia.com/2020/09/30/no-republicans-cannot-throw-the-presidential-election-into-the-house-so-that-trump-wins

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
21. interesting article, but it misses the point....
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:29 AM
Oct 2020

It takes the path that trump's goal is simply to de-legitimitize PA's votes so biden doesn't get them. Ok, that is one path to a house vote which the gop would win. But the path PA legislators are taking is to simply submit their own slate of EC electors; ones that would surely give their ec votes to trump and give him 20 more votes.

It would work this way, the legislature submits it's elector list. The gov and AG would submit theirs.

There are now 2 competing lists of electors which congress must choose between. The count is held in the senate and pence is the chair of the count.

How do you think the choice will go? If it's held in December, the gop will still be in control of the senate. What's to keep them from voting to use the list from the state legislature?

What role will the courts and scotus play?

That is their game here. The gop states like FL will just send their list which will vote for trump. The dems could challenge that with their own list, but then we are back to the senate and the courts. The system is flawed, which in the past hasn't been an issue since both sides more or less followed the norms.

The article didn't address this scenario. Just one where the one list of electors is challenged or blocked.



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. So,his campaign is
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:56 AM
Oct 2020

broke and on life support. Watch how all the Campaign Funds start to appear in his personal LLC's and Shell Companies. Michele Cohn said it best,he thinks that money is his.

SergeStorms

(19,200 posts)
24. Those are the states they'll flood with Attorneys.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 01:16 PM
Oct 2020

They'll challenge every mail-in vote and send their goons to polling places. These are the states where Putin will also concentrate his efforts. Democratic Attorneys had better be there to fight like hell against them.

BumRushDaShow

(128,918 posts)
5. From the OP link
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:07 AM
Oct 2020
Biden has spent more than $7 million in Ohio, while spending $95 million in Florida, $55 million in Pennsylvania and $43 million in North Carolina.


I will have to admit that it has been wall-to-wall Biden ads here in PA (I hear them on the radio and I *know* they are running on TV). I have even heard them on the progressive SiriusXM station "Urban View" (which is an African-American-focused channel). They have run on both the broadcast and streamed versions of the CNN & MSNBC cable news shows and appear as still ads on webpages and even as pop-ups on youtube videos.

I expect some poor state is getting bombarded the other way though.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
11. My father lives on the Illinois-Iowa border (Illini side)
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:20 AM
Oct 2020

There are a lot of third party pro-Trump ads filling the airwaves
Because anyone with a lot of money can run ads, his pulling out p[probably means very little

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
14. He's depending on Putin in tight state races.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:51 AM
Oct 2020

Beware the hackers. These states are where the danger lies.

The best defense is a HUGE turnout. Can't cheat well if the margin for Joe is 0ver 6%.

VOTE VOTE VOTE

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
16. I was under the impression he was losing IA and OH in recent polling.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:20 AM
Oct 2020

With four weeks to go, they must be hurting for cash.

 

NorthOf270

(290 posts)
22. There is no doom and gloom, just facts.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:30 AM
Oct 2020

Stopping ads in crucial states tells me they know they are going to lose. They have moved on to another phase.

If everyone votes, even they will not be able to cobble together an argument to contest shit. EVERYONE HAS TO VOTE AND THEY ARE RENDERED IRRELEVANT!!!.

But Trump made it clear in the last minutes of that debate exactly what he wants done. When someone shows you who they are, believe it and be prepared!

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
23. this will help DRIVE the vote - EARLY!!!!
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:34 AM
Oct 2020

It's not doom and gloom. It should be motivating to get your damned votes in as early as possible. Procrastination is as bad as not voting at all.

Vote early! This is why!

If we have a victory on election night or by weds, it will stop this nonesense cold. But if trump is "ahead" pending the count of backlogged or late arriving votes, then all hell will be unleashed.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
25. As we say in Chicago, "Vote Early, Vote Often" ...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 01:30 PM
Oct 2020

Also we called Ohio & Iowa one state OhIowa.

Apparently, people get the 2 states mixed up.

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