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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:59 AM Oct 2020

Gov. Kristi Noem issues claim that South Dakota has proven a point...: Lockdowns Are Useless

Source: USA Today

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. – Gov. Kristi Noem claimed Monday that South Dakota has given the rest of the country an example of how to navigate a pandemic without heavy-handed government mandates.

During a special legislative session in Pierre, Noem told lawmakers that while her resistance to statewide stay-at-home orders has drawn criticism, it's also provided a different approach to managing the pandemic than those taken in other states.

"As you all might imagine, these last seven months have been quite lonely at times," Noem said. "But earlier this week, one very prominent national reporter sent me a note that said: 'Governor, if you hadn't stood against lockdowns, we'd have no proof of just how useless they really have been.'"

Noem spoke after South Dakota's worst month yet during the pandemic. The Mount Rushmore State has consistently broken records in recent weeks for new and active cases, hospitalizations and the number of people killed by COVID-19.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gov-kristi-noem-issues-claim-that-south-dakota-has-proven-a-point-during-covid-19-pandemic-lockdowns-are-useless/ar-BB19JKSH?ocid=msedgdhp



If you recall, the Governor originally claimed credit for keeping down cases in South Dakota, one of the least densely populated states, without a lockdown. But, thanks to her policies, including promoting super spreader events like Sturgis, South Dakota now has one of the highest positive test rates in the Nation. So, the Governor's new talking point is that she meant to do that, which coincides with the right wing talking point of the moment promoting herd immunity.

Thus, before Republican Governors were bragging about low initial case counts. Now, they are bragging about letting COVID spread unimpeded through their States. Heads they win, tails you lose.

https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/state-and-regional/south-dakota-beats-active-covid-19-case-record-for-fifth-consecutive-day/article_fccfae50-66ed-530f-9f88-79177800bce7.html

South Dakota beats active COVID-19 case record for fifth consecutive day

Monday marked the fifth consecutive day that South Dakota broke its own record of active COVID-19 cases. The DOH reported 3,828 residents have an active COVID-19 infection.

The state’s highest number of active COVID-19 cases was previously seen on Sept. 5 when 3,057 South Dakotans had an infection.

Numbers have spiked since Wednesday when 3,108 active cases were seen, followed by more record-breaking reports of 3,291 on Thursday, 3,507 on Friday, 3,742 on Saturday and 3,790 on Sunday.

Health secretary Kim Malsam-Rysdon said Monday that some of the highest COVID-19 testing dates have occurred in the past week.


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Gov. Kristi Noem issues claim that South Dakota has proven a point...: Lockdowns Are Useless (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2020 OP
They can't say bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #1
I hope her herd immunity stance takes her or someone she cares about Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #2
That's the only way it ever gets through. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #3
Correct. Delphinus Oct 2020 #16
+1000 Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #39
Just like Sarah Palin, surrender and run before the fight even begins. ffr Oct 2020 #4
we have counties with way more people than the SD has as a state BUT if COVID beachbumbob Oct 2020 #5
I'm glad the article mentions that... Hong Kong Cavalier Oct 2020 #6
Isn't Sturgis there? pandr32 Oct 2020 #7
Yes. SergeStorms Oct 2020 #14
Those bikers are not reflected in SD's numbers. Lasher Oct 2020 #36
She might as well be the mayor in Jaws. NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #8
mmm , Look at New Zeland, Covid free for 12 days after last lockdown. Mr. Sparkle Oct 2020 #9
What is she using as a measuring stick. bottomofthehill Oct 2020 #10
Let's see... Lochloosa Oct 2020 #11
It is "De Facto Social Distancing" Lokee11 Oct 2020 #18
+1 Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #40
Fucking delusional catbyte Oct 2020 #12
I just wish this covid would KILL bluestarone Oct 2020 #13
South Dakota has proven that Repuke governors are useless. roamer65 Oct 2020 #15
Who Is This 'National Reporter', Sir? The Magistrate Oct 2020 #17
I am betting someone from OANN TomCADem Oct 2020 #21
Aren't OANN & Prominent Mutually Exclusive? ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #25
Legends In Their On Minds, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2020 #31
A prominent national reporter sent her a note, huh? SergeStorms Oct 2020 #19
Probably one of Trump's stooges at Fox. LiberalFighter Oct 2020 #32
Precisely Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #41
LOL. "one very prominent national reporter sent me a note" but won't name them. Trumpian. PSPS Oct 2020 #20
"Many people are saying....." MyOwnPeace Oct 2020 #23
Population is 11.7 per square mile Aerator Oct 2020 #22
Why is anybody anywhere listening to anything any member of the GOP spouts? efhmc Oct 2020 #24
Because It Often Translates Into Actual Policy That Affects People's Lives? TomCADem Oct 2020 #28
They Never Learn. jayfish Oct 2020 #26
Noem is not the right person noneof_theabove Oct 2020 #27
North Dakota is 5th and South Dakota is 12th in Cases Per Million Stallion Oct 2020 #29
No matter how badly you fail, always declare victory and pretend to be a winner. IronLionZion Oct 2020 #30
hem. AllaN01Bear Oct 2020 #33
Such BS. The US never did any sort of "lockdown". LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #34
Lock downs don't work if the people being affected don't want to follow the directives. patphil Oct 2020 #35
Last time I checked, yesterday, SD was 2nd in us in daily new cases per capita progree Oct 2020 #37
Greenland do you want buy a couple of plots of vacant land? StClone Oct 2020 #38
Noem is vapid and evil Yeehah Oct 2020 #42
she's gunning for a top job in the GOP RussBLib Oct 2020 #43

bucolic_frolic

(43,148 posts)
1. They can't say
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:02 PM
Oct 2020

there's no different between the parties or the policies or the candidates now. So they're going with there's no difference between the outcomes.

One of the grandest lies ever told.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
3. That's the only way it ever gets through.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:04 PM
Oct 2020

Sometimes, that's not even enough. I thought Herman Cain dying would at least nudge the conversation, but they act like he never existed. He was quite literally sent to his death by Donald Trump.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
16. Correct.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

Sometimes even that close death is not enough.

I find myself saying, "I don't belong in this world" a whole lot more lately.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
4. Just like Sarah Palin, surrender and run before the fight even begins.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:07 PM
Oct 2020

Cowards!

How about a national plan. Don't worry conservatives. The liberals are coming to clean up the mess you left us, AGAIN!

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. we have counties with way more people than the SD has as a state BUT if COVID
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:07 PM
Oct 2020

is in the communities, avoiding shutdowns/mask mandates only spreads it more

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
6. I'm glad the article mentions that...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:10 PM
Oct 2020

...there's less than a million people in the entire shithole state.

(I was born and raised there, so I would like to think that I'm somewhat qualified in calling it a shithole these days.)

Of COURSE they're going to have lower numbers. There's not a shitton of people in one area besides Sioux Falls and Rapid City.

*flips table*. Ugh, my home state has turned to total shit.

pandr32

(11,581 posts)
7. Isn't Sturgis there?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:18 PM
Oct 2020

Didn't they have hundreds of thousands of bikers from all over the country roll in for a week in August? They were not socially distancing and caused a spike in cases.

Lasher

(27,581 posts)
36. Those bikers are not reflected in SD's numbers.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:32 PM
Oct 2020

They all went home, where they tested positive in their home states.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,932 posts)
9. mmm , Look at New Zeland, Covid free for 12 days after last lockdown.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:21 PM
Oct 2020

They can live a normal life now while restricting immigration. I think what Kristi meant to say is Republicans are useless.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
10. What is she using as a measuring stick.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:23 PM
Oct 2020

Her new cases, Hospitalizations and deaths are all rising significantly

Lochloosa

(16,064 posts)
11. Let's see...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:24 PM
Oct 2020

Duval County FL 918 Square Miles Population 957,775

South Dakota 77,184 Square Miles Population: 880,235


Great comparison.

Lokee11

(235 posts)
18. It is "De Facto Social Distancing"
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:37 PM
Oct 2020

Republicans - Never let facts get in the way of their conclusions - FUCK THEM ALL seriously!

FDT!

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
13. I just wish this covid would KILL
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:28 PM
Oct 2020

Some of these assholes that DESERVE it!!! NONE of these bastards are getting the severe symptoms!!

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
25. Aren't OANN & Prominent Mutually Exclusive?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020

There are CNN, Faux, MSNBC & the three network personalities that are household names. OANN reporters are barely known at OANN!
I think she just made it up.

SergeStorms

(19,200 posts)
19. A prominent national reporter sent her a note, huh?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:40 PM
Oct 2020

Republicans are always doing this. Trump does it the most, and since Noem is a Trumphumper extraordinaire she's using it a lot too. Please, name this "prominent national reporter." "Some people say", "many people say", "a man walked up to me and said".......... all complete bullshit. It's always some anonymous person. It's just another way for them to inject their lies into the narrative.

Aerator

(189 posts)
22. Population is 11.7 per square mile
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 12:56 PM
Oct 2020

Only 4 states have a smaller population than SD per square mile which should help the virus from spreading but SD is in the top 10 in cases per million of population.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
28. Because It Often Translates Into Actual Policy That Affects People's Lives?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 01:18 PM
Oct 2020

Votes matter, and if people elect folks like Trump or South Dakota's Governor, there are consequences.

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
27. Noem is not the right person
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020

Said this all over the place...Politicians will not do anything until the "right" person dies, and she ain't it.

Trumps young son, McTurtle's grandchild, get the picture.

If something does not personally effect them then nothing will happen.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
29. North Dakota is 5th and South Dakota is 12th in Cases Per Million
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 01:33 PM
Oct 2020

....and they have only begun the upsurge so deaths routinely lag behind. Its outrageous to have numbers that high in a social distanced state that had very little covid before Sturgis

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
30. No matter how badly you fail, always declare victory and pretend to be a winner.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 02:05 PM
Oct 2020

Works for Trump too. When douchebag loses the election, he will say he meant to do that and it's proof that elections are useless.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
34. Such BS. The US never did any sort of "lockdown".
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:17 PM
Oct 2020

We did "stay at home" and "shelter in place" to limit the spread, especially early on. No one was ever "locked down". That's GOP propaganda to make it seem like the big bad govt was locking up people. These people are just so freaking demented.

Those stay at home efforts would have done a lot more if the administration had put together a national plan. Instead it was largely wasted. Now the only plan is just avoiding large crowds, social distancing and wearing masks which helps limit spread.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
35. Lock downs don't work if the people being affected don't want to follow the directives.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:29 PM
Oct 2020

It's a combination of not wanting to be told what to do, embracing Trump's anti-mask mentality, and a strong dose of"stick it to the libtards" in action.

Ever since Sturgis, this state has been rapidly moving upward in confirmed cases. South Dakota reached 10,000 confirmed cases on August 14th, during the Sturgis rally.
Today they are at almost 25,000. That's 2.5 times increase in less than 2 months.

That's more confirmed cases per million residents than Texas or New York.
Oh, they also rank 45th in number of tests per million residents.
Even with weak testing, they are still seeing a strong surge in cases.


figures are from:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

progree

(10,904 posts)
37. Last time I checked, yesterday, SD was 2nd in us in daily new cases per capita
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:36 PM
Oct 2020

7 day moving avg. I'm away and on my phone, so I can't provide the usual links. Oh, and the trend is straight up. As for #1, that's dear neighbor nodak.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
38. Greenland do you want buy a couple of plots of vacant land?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 05:58 PM
Oct 2020

If you buy South Dakota we'll throw in North Dakota for half price.

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