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BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:03 PM Oct 2020

Biden: 'We shouldn't have' second debate if Trump still has COVID-19

Source: The Hill

Former Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday he and President Trump should not go ahead with next week's presidential debate if Trump still has COVID-19.

Biden, who clashed with Trump at a chaotic first debate last week, told reporters at an airport in Hagerstown, Md., that the pair's second scheduled faceoff should follow protocols from health officials.

The former vice president said he will ultimately be guided by the Cleveland Clinic, which is overseeing health conditions for all presidential and vice presidential debates this year.

“I think if he still has COVID, we shouldn’t have a debate,” Biden said of Trump, who was diagnosed with the disease last Thursday.

“I think we were gonna have to follow very strict guidelines. Too many people have been infected. It’s a very serious problem, so I will be guided by the guidelines of the Cleveland Clinic and what the docs say is the right thing to do,” he added.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/519914-biden-we-shouldnt-have-a-debate-if-trump-still-has-covid-19

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Biden: 'We shouldn't have' second debate if Trump still has COVID-19 (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 OP
Zoom with mute only for Joe AND Kamala SheltieLover Oct 2020 #1
Ability to listen to others is a mark of leadership n/t Kingfisher86 Oct 2020 #2
Yes. WHEN DonCon interrupts Biden he should adopt a Gene Wilder pose and let tRump spew. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #21
well... orleans Oct 2020 #3
Pretty sure the ol' Cleveland Clinic is going to be DarthDem Oct 2020 #6
Exactly. First thing I thought when I read this. CC enabled appalachiablue Oct 2020 #9
Yep. I'm convinced that once Trump was bamagal62 Oct 2020 #4
That's not farfetched. Merlot Oct 2020 #5
Can't rule that out. He's a psychopath. benfranklin1776 Oct 2020 #7
3rd pres. debate in 1960 with Nixon in LA, JFK in NY: split screen appalachiablue Oct 2020 #10
Nice find! benfranklin1776 Oct 2020 #11
Absolutely too risky, correct. We can't take any more chances, appalachiablue Oct 2020 #12
Agreed wholly. benfranklin1776 Oct 2020 #14
They're that evil and now desperate. appalachiablue Oct 2020 #15
Spot on. No more debate! Too risky & at this point noone onetexan Oct 2020 #16
No need to put the world through that again. ucrdem Oct 2020 #8
He's absolutely right Bayard Oct 2020 #13
I agree with Biden. nt iluvtennis Oct 2020 #17
This is the adult, logical thing to do TlalocW Oct 2020 #18
Joe is right of course. It's the only rational thing to do. Listen to the experts! nt SunSeeker Oct 2020 #19
KR TY joe Biden! Cha Oct 2020 #20

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
1. Zoom with mute only for Joe AND Kamala
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:06 PM
Oct 2020

Else no debates! Oh, and Kamala should be allowed to stand if she wants.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
21. Yes. WHEN DonCon interrupts Biden he should adopt a Gene Wilder pose and let tRump spew.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:48 AM
Oct 2020

THEN he can hammer home how the self-styled "Law and Order" president can't even obey Debate rules.

Biden can put his elbow on the lectern, rest his head on his chin and turn to watch tRump spew. When tRump runs out of steam, hammer him with the "Law and Order" hypocrisy. State how many indictments there have been under tRump compared to Obama & Democratic Presidents.

At this point, Biden wins more when he gets out of the way and does not stop his orange opponent from making so many mistakes.



orleans

(34,051 posts)
3. well...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:07 PM
Oct 2020

as far as the cleveland clinic goes -- didn't they allow that rat's nest of a family to remain seated without masks? chris wallace said a doctor came and talked to them right before the debate started and they waved the doctor off.

also, i heard (also from wallace? i forget) that they all showed up too late to get tested before entering.

maybe joe should double check any advice the cleveland clinic gives him with another source as well

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
6. Pretty sure the ol' Cleveland Clinic is going to be
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:55 PM
Oct 2020

Tightening up its protocols now. Talk about dropping the ball.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
9. Exactly. First thing I thought when I read this. CC enabled
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:56 PM
Oct 2020

that, did nothing to address reckless audience members and the Ogre

Joe and Kamala need to really look out for themselves and their staff, we can't afford any problems

bamagal62

(3,257 posts)
4. Yep. I'm convinced that once Trump was
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 09:37 PM
Oct 2020

positive, their strategy has been to infect Joe and Kamala and Nancy.

benfranklin1776

(6,445 posts)
7. Can't rule that out. He's a psychopath.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:12 PM
Oct 2020

So i wouldn’t put it past him if there is a debate for him to try to deliberately infect Vice President Biden if he gets the chance. He cannot be trusted to do the sane, rational, human thing about anything. He’s criminally reckless and even more so now when he thinks he’s going to lose. He’s determined to destroy as much as possible and hurt as many people as possible as his pulling the plug on any further COVID relief for those who desperately need it. So no way Vice President Biden should take that chance no way. And there is no reason to put all of the people in the studio at risk of serious injury or death. As historian Michael Beschloss noted this evening the third Kennedy Nixon debate in 1960 took place remotely with Nixon in Los Angeles and Kennedy in New York and that wasn’t a pandemic situation with a maniacal malicious superspreader as one of the participants. So if it happens at all it should be done remotely as that debate in 1960. We all know that technology has certainly improved since then and it can be easily effectuated. The risks are too great to chance it.

benfranklin1776

(6,445 posts)
11. Nice find!
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:07 PM
Oct 2020

👍🏻👍🏻And evidence it can and should be done now to protect Vice President Biden and all the innocent bystanders in the studio who can be harmed.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
12. Absolutely too risky, correct. We can't take any more chances,
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:12 PM
Oct 2020

I don't even think plexiglass tomorrow is enuff, air can still circulate around & so many staffers who will be there are possibly contaminated.

The Trump plague has descended on DC, it's so bad.

benfranklin1776

(6,445 posts)
14. Agreed wholly.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:19 AM
Oct 2020

Given the utter lack of credibility of this gang of plague purveyors I trust nothing about Pences current infectious status, so I think a level 4 biohazard suit would be appropriate for Senator Harris’s protection, and even then I wouldn’t be comfortable. Heckuva job there Mikey running that task force-I think you misinterpreted your mission: it was to protect the American people not help sicken and kill us with your reckless science denialism and mindless, heedless lockstep following of the vector in chief’s insane plans to push people back into unsafe workplaces and social settings when this disastrous human carnage was certain to result. 🤬

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
8. No need to put the world through that again.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 10:27 PM
Oct 2020

The entire universe got to witness that shameful spectacle once already and super-spreader lost to Biden before Biden even entered.

Bayard

(22,068 posts)
13. He's absolutely right
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:13 AM
Oct 2020

And there's no way trump will not have it next week, no matter what he or his puppy dog doctor say.

I don't even like Kamala debating Pence tomorrow night with only a sheet of plexiglass between them. Do the Kennedy/Nixon thing with the split screen, and put them in 2 totally different locations (as long as trump is not in the Oval Office).

STOP risking our candidates! It would not surprise me in the least to find out trump is trying to infect them. Mr. Sour Grapes knows he's losing. He is a nasty, spiteful little tin god.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
18. This is the adult, logical thing to do
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:46 AM
Oct 2020

So of course the Trumpers and Trump himself will use it to call Joe a chicken. It probably won't matter much in the long run, but it will happen because otherwise the narrative after the second debate will be one of the following:

1. Trump is deemed the winner. Wow! Joe couldn't even take him though Trump has Covid/has recently "recovered" from Covid.
2. Biden wins. Well, of course, Biden won. He's beating up on a man with Covid/recently "recovered" from Covid
3. Trump collapses. LOOK WHAT JOE DID!

TlalocW

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