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brooklynite

(94,515 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:39 AM Oct 2020

Biden Widens Lead to 21 Points After Trump's Coronavirus Diagnosis: Poll

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Source: Newsweek

Dramatically fewer voters said they intend to cast ballots for President Donald Trump after he was diagnosed with COVID-19, according to a new poll.

A poll released Tuesday by Franklin Pierce University and The Boston Herald shows Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's lead grew from 5 percent before the positive test result to 21 percent after Trump's diagnosis was announced.

Biden was supported by 46 percent of likely voters compared to 41 percent for Trump during the two days before his infection was revealed, while 55 percent said they would vote for Biden and only 34 percent stuck with Trump in the three days after the diagnosis.

The poll was conducted nationally among 1,003 likely voters over the phone and online between September 30 and October 4, with a 3.1 percent margin of error. When results from all five days of the survey are included, Biden holds an overall 51 percent to 37 percent lead over Trump.



Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/biden-widens-lead-21-points-after-trumps-coronavirus-diagnosis-poll-1536917

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Biden Widens Lead to 21 Points After Trump's Coronavirus Diagnosis: Poll (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
The October surprise isn't what trumpty dumpty was hoping for captain queeg Oct 2020 #1
It's the October Surprise that keeps on giving. More top Reptilicans infected every day. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #8
Seems like it might be an outlier, but hey, I'll take it.... SKKY Oct 2020 #2
Maybe it will drop another 3-5 on this phony "vote for me or NO stimulus check" CON JOB Bengus81 Oct 2020 #3
No way will it be that much of a blowout durablend Oct 2020 #4
Trump will always do better than the polls indicate William Seger Oct 2020 #16
Great, let's take the Senate too IronLionZion Oct 2020 #5
Given what a horror Trump has been, PatSeg Oct 2020 #6
Folks, the +21 is a partial result. Chichiri Oct 2020 #7
I'm really starting to doubt these polls. KWR65 Oct 2020 #9
This poll was never a very reliable one. Remember, it had 5% when no one else did. pnwmom Oct 2020 #20
It's an A- rated poll Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #22
I can't see it on 538 or RCP. Where was it rated A-? n/t pnwmom Oct 2020 #26
Whoops, my bad Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #27
Thanks. I like all these polls lately, and they're all going in the same direction nt pnwmom Oct 2020 #29
Con man who screams HOAX! 10 times a week contracts virus he's downplayed bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #10
I would love to see Mr. Biden win the election Marthe48 Oct 2020 #11
Thanks for posting the video Mira Oct 2020 #12
Always heard about this race Roc2020 Oct 2020 #18
Welcome to DU Marthe48 Oct 2020 #19
That horse was amazing! Bayard Oct 2020 #21
I loved that horse Marthe48 Oct 2020 #23
Just the five horses? Jimbo S Oct 2020 #25
The Derby and Preakness had already been run Bayard Oct 2020 #28
Don't we love counting our chickens before they are hatched? Steelrolled Oct 2020 #13
In 2016, the final national polls had Clinton wining the popular vote by 1% to 5% NewJeffCT Oct 2020 #17
I like this but 21 points seems high to me. ananda Oct 2020 #14
Another poll (YouGov), taken after dump's diagnosis was announced (Oct 4-6), shows Biden up 8-9 pts gristy Oct 2020 #15
The Covis issue is bigger than just Trump for him Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #24
As an aside - how many early voters regret wasting their ballot on Dump? Talitha Oct 2020 #30
not many it seems..... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #32
1000+ people poll RicROC Oct 2020 #31
Rasmussen has Biden up 12 Jon King Oct 2020 #33
Wow Demovictory9 Oct 2020 #34
LOCKING applegrove Oct 2020 #35

captain queeg

(10,184 posts)
1. The October surprise isn't what trumpty dumpty was hoping for
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:41 AM
Oct 2020

Surprise dumbass! You’re fired!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. It's the October Surprise that keeps on giving. More top Reptilicans infected every day.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:22 AM
Oct 2020

I'm particularly delighted that Steven Goebbels Miller is sick.

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
2. Seems like it might be an outlier, but hey, I'll take it....
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:58 AM
Oct 2020

...it certainly follows the prevailing trends.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
3. Maybe it will drop another 3-5 on this phony "vote for me or NO stimulus check" CON JOB
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:02 AM
Oct 2020

Here we go again. His rich Airline buddies get theirs,those "business" owners who take the money and buy Trump 2020 billboards get theirs but millions and millions who truly need another $1200 stimulus check can fuck off.

What would make anyone with a brain think that KING CON would suddenly crank out those checks starting on Nov 4th?!?!

durablend

(7,460 posts)
4. No way will it be that much of a blowout
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:08 AM
Oct 2020

Lets not kid ourselves here. The stupid MAGAt will still be stupid MAGAt and crawl over broken glass to vote for their savior and to stick it to teh libs.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
16. Trump will always do better than the polls indicate
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:41 AM
Oct 2020

... because at least some of his supporters know he's a turd and are too embarrassed to tell the truth to pollsters -- that they'd vote for Charles Manson if he ran as a Republican.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
5. Great, let's take the Senate too
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:11 AM
Oct 2020

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
6. Given what a horror Trump has been,
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:20 AM
Oct 2020

this is the kind of poll results I would have expected months ago. I guess the "final straw" for different voters really varies and perhaps more people are actually paying attention now.

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
7. Folks, the +21 is a partial result.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:21 AM
Oct 2020

The entire poll has Biden +14.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
9. I'm really starting to doubt these polls.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:26 AM
Oct 2020

To go from a 5% national lead tp 21% is not possible.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
20. This poll was never a very reliable one. Remember, it had 5% when no one else did.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:06 PM
Oct 2020

But I like the 21. It kind of makes up for the 5.

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
22. It's an A- rated poll
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:45 PM
Oct 2020

It's one of the best ones out there.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
26. I can't see it on 538 or RCP. Where was it rated A-? n/t
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:52 PM
Oct 2020

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
27. Whoops, my bad
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:53 PM
Oct 2020

I was looking at the NBC/WSJ which also has Biden +14 and is an A- rated poll.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
29. Thanks. I like all these polls lately, and they're all going in the same direction nt
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
10. Con man who screams HOAX! 10 times a week contracts virus he's downplayed
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:29 AM
Oct 2020

Yeah I could see that impacting credibility a bit

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
11. I would love to see Mr. Biden win the election
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:37 AM
Oct 2020

Like Secretariat won the Belmont Stakes! Just leave impeached traitor in the dust.

In case you haven't ever seen this race:



Just ironic that the horse who came in a distant second was named Sham.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
12. Thanks for posting the video
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:00 AM
Oct 2020

it raised my spirits to get to see it.

Roc2020

(1,615 posts)
18. Always heard about this race
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:49 AM
Oct 2020

first time seeing the recording of it.

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
19. Welcome to DU
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:56 AM
Oct 2020

I watched it live, and I watch it every once in awhile, because it is unbelievable. I'll feel good the rest of the day There is a movie called Secretariat, which I enjoyed watching.

Bayard

(22,062 posts)
21. That horse was amazing!
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:43 PM
Oct 2020

I remember watching the race on TV with other horsey friends, and we were pulling for little Sham. But Secretariat had a couple of other gears. I read once that he had a 17 foot stride.

May Joe be just as amazing!

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
23. I loved that horse
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:46 PM
Oct 2020

I remember he made the cover of Time Magazine

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
25. Just the five horses?
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:48 PM
Oct 2020

typical then? And it seemed like it took forever. Longer track then?

Bayard

(22,062 posts)
28. The Derby and Preakness had already been run
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:05 PM
Oct 2020

And he won both of those.

The Belmont is the longest race of the Triple Crown at 1& 1/2 miles, so by that time, the field is considerably narrowed, even though other horses can qualify that were not in the other races.

The Derby is is 1 & 1/4. The Preakness is 1& 3/16 mile.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
13. Don't we love counting our chickens before they are hatched?
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:07 AM
Oct 2020

And we can't seem to remember more than a few years back. Stories like this are harmful IMHO.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. In 2016, the final national polls had Clinton wining the popular vote by 1% to 5%
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:47 AM
Oct 2020

she won the popular vote by almost 3%

seems pretty accurate on that basis.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
14. I like this but 21 points seems high to me.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:08 AM
Oct 2020

I'm thinking it's more like 12-14 points ahead.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
15. Another poll (YouGov), taken after dump's diagnosis was announced (Oct 4-6), shows Biden up 8-9 pts
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:30 AM
Oct 2020

reported at https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
scroll down a bit

21 pts doesn't sound right.

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
24. The Covis issue is bigger than just Trump for him
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:46 PM
Oct 2020

It wasn't just that Trump got Covid, it's that his entire White House seemingly got it. Even though he's not in the hospital any monger, this is still getting worse for him because almost hourly a new patient is identified that had contact with him.

Talitha

(6,583 posts)
30. As an aside - how many early voters regret wasting their ballot on Dump?
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:53 PM
Oct 2020

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
32. not many it seems.....
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:05 PM
Oct 2020

At least one report has most of the early votes cast were by dems, although I don't know how they figured that out.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
31. 1000+ people poll
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:00 PM
Oct 2020

Many of these polls consist of 300-400 people which gives a larger Margin of Error, like 4.5%.
This poll has over 1000 people polled. Margin of Error = 3.1%.

I'd like to see a poll consisting of 2000+ people. Of course, once you get over 52%, maybe the MofE does not as mean as much.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
33. Rasmussen has Biden up 12
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:22 PM
Oct 2020

If Rasmussen has him up 12 it must be more like 17-18.

Demovictory9

(32,453 posts)
34. Wow
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:50 PM
Oct 2020

applegrove

(118,636 posts)
35. LOCKING
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:58 PM
Oct 2020

Alert: duplicate post

Below is the previous LBN OP on the same topic.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142598784

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