Feds thwart militia plot to kidnap Whitmer
Source: The Detroit News
The FBI thwarted what they described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday.
The alleged plot involved reaching out to members of a Michigan militia, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday.
"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."
The raids came five days after Madison Heights resident Eric Mark-Matthew Allport was killed during a shootout with agents who were executing an arrest warrant for a federal weapons offense in the parking lot of a Texas Roadhouse in Madison Heights. The Oakland County Medical Examiner's Office said Allport died of multiple gunshot wounds and classified his death as a homicide.
Read more: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/feds-thwart-militia-plot-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/5922301002/
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bluestarone
(16,926 posts)EVERYBODY better have all eyes open. THIS could be our FUTURE!!!
Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)Once Biden/Harris take office the FBI, the DOJ and other government departments will begin acting responsibly again, there will be no trump to continue inciting violence.
NO THIS IS NOT OUR FUTURE!
bluestarone
(16,926 posts)That's why i said COULD BE? VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!
olegramps
(8,200 posts)The militants are dominated by people vowing violent revolution and believe they have the firm backing of Trump, Pence and their administration.
paleotn
(17,912 posts)We have always had a small, lunatic fringe and always will. No different then yesterday. No different then tomorrow. Except these guys are limited to making IED's from freaking fireworks.
Wicked Blue
(5,832 posts)and I hope someone throws the book at these bastards
rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)RAB910
(3,501 posts)calimary
(81,222 posts)Especially since most of 'em seem to be BIG-ASS WAR-TOY gun nuts.
Assholes like them are a threat to national security! I hope they STAY in custody - for the safety of Governor Whitmer AND all the rest of us - in Michigan AND beyond!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Maybe it's international.
2naSalit
(86,577 posts)Q is a thing in Britain.
onetexan
(13,037 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)praying Rachel and Lawrence and others are protected
and now Keith Olbermann
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...and interview all of their contacts.
demmiblue
(36,845 posts)demmiblue
(36,845 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)What the fuck
Yeehah
(4,587 posts)Republicans are USA-hating fascists and terrorists.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Let their friends, family, neighbors all know what they're trying to do. No privacy for them. Put them in jail and - it goes without saying - take away their guns.
Edit to add: My brother and his family live in Dublin, Ohio. It's a nice quiet suburb of Columbus where people are good Americans and they have lots of backyard barbecues and church socials. This kind of fascist anarchy is in no way typical of Dublin, so I'm calling it outside troublemakers. If anybody knows differently, please let me know.
calimary
(81,222 posts)When the kids don't play nicely with their toys, YOU TAKE THEIR TOYS AWAY!!!
This is NOT that hard.
AllaN01Bear
(18,187 posts)Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)These thugs are brave when they know no bullets will be fired back at them, otherwise they are cowards, just like the one in Charlottesville who cried when the police was looking for him.
AllaN01Bear
(18,187 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)swag
(26,487 posts)PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Ooof, watta name!
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greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Not a good look, my man.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)I'm just putting the word out for others of that ilk.
The only known ex-con to eat at my table (daughter's EX-boyfriend, thank God) joked about "Don't drop the soap."
If he can joke about it...
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Make examples of these terrorists!
And will chumputin pardon them?
Traildogbob
(8,726 posts)At Hotel GITMO. Terrorist resort. But no, Barr will get involved, Trump will Pardon. Presidential Medals of Freedom to all, with a victory rally including special guest, 17 year old murderer. MAGA! Flies keep landing depositing eggs and expanding the base of MAGAts. Those eggs on Pences head had better make it full term to birth.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Hahaha fly eggs.
KS Toronado
(17,214 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Ty for reminder.
I'd love to see them rot in prison.
The type of treatment extended to Black women & men!
ashredux
(2,605 posts)Roc2020
(1,615 posts)What is the red line to die for? yes we are there.
cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)He should be charged with whatever they can at the state level. Trump's call for "Liberate Michigan" is directly tied to activating the militias around the country.
Trump is a criminal, time they started indicting him at the state level in every state affected by his malice.
Trump is the rogue head of domestic terror.
BigmanPigman
(51,588 posts)Tbear
(487 posts)"Is that all ya got Donny?! Eh?"
(just kidding I made that up) But I could see her saying it.
Watch out for the shark attack.
gibraltar72
(7,503 posts)Hillsdale the local nuts were having secret meetings. Regarding plans to remove Whitmer from office. I'm betting they will have some questions to answer. I believe they actually posed with the lunatics from Hartland at the Lansing "protest".
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Wisconsin's militia is made up of marshmallows. They couldn't kidnap roadkill.
maddogesq
(1,245 posts)Theres nice open space and farms over that way, but you are in the heart of Redneckistan with big guns and small penises.
My niece played b-ball for Hillsdale College one season. That is one of the most right-wing schools in the nation. Thankfully she finished her career at EMU.
gibraltar72
(7,503 posts)They do play it to the hilt and have poisoned the county. I've had their number for 60 plus years.
gibraltar72
(7,503 posts)They do play it to the hilt and have poisoned the county. I've had their number for 60 plus years.
BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)dalton99a
(81,468 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... a call to arms to overthrow the government. What did he expect?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)They imagine themselves as militias, but they're nothing more than gangs. White gangs, mind you, which is why they get away with so much more. I'm certainly not condoning Black or Hispanic gangs (such as MS-13, Crips, Bloods etc.) but if they had the firepower these White gangs have there would be full-out war against them. Trump doesn't like those gangs, but he actually loves these White gang members, because they love him. What I find most disturbing is that many of these gangs have Police officers (both active and retired) as members.
I'm glad the FBI and other federal agencies have these assholes on their radar. They're the biggest domestic terrorist danger to our country.
DBoon
(22,363 posts)If you are not involved in the gang;'s business (meaning you are not buying/dealing illegal drugs) you are generally not of any interest to the. They are involved ina business, a very violent business to be sure.
White gangs are explicitly political. We *are* their enemy.
nattyice
(331 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)... which would be outside Trump's pardon jurisdiction.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)One of those informants came from a militia group in Michigan...as a result...they were able to speak with this person who came forward because they were concerned that militia was seeking addresses of police officers and wanted to kill police officers,
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)These people are a menace to America!
onetexan
(13,037 posts)Marcuse
(7,479 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)speaknow
(321 posts)Antifa people the FBI showed them a thing
or, wait a minute those are DJT fine people type's.
Nice going DJT look at the shit you made.
madeup64
(257 posts)"The investigation dates to early 2020 when the FBI learned through social media (emphasis added) that individuals were discussing the violent overthrow of several state governments and law enforcement."
These morans talked about it on social media. Thankfully they are as good at plotting government takeovers as Trump is at being a businessman.
klook
(12,154 posts)As a reminder:
BigmanPigman
(51,588 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:52 AM - Edit history (1)
due to Covid. They also didn't want to wear masks.
So they decided to have a civil war, overthrow a govt, install their own, set bombs, kidnap, etc. The list of charges was about 25' long.
Covid related Domestic Terrorists brought to you by tRump.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)I hope that Democrats are taking appropriate measures to increase security. These types are more numerous than many want to believe or even know.
durablend
(7,460 posts)Those poo-poohing the chance for RW violence after the election as "nothing to worry about" need to wake up.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)Just look at the number of mass shootings and domestic terrorist attacks. Who are the largest perpetrators? Right wing white supremacists. That's a fact. How do these people think these people will react when their great leader loses? It's laughable that people on our side so casually dismiss them.
Maxheader
(4,373 posts)The whole world is fucking crazy..protests cuz the leaders say wear a mask...maintain distance...
Some countries had no problems with that..others..
W T F
(1,146 posts)BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Best to Gretchen and her family!
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)Like right wing groups around the country have been planning on taking out Dems across the country as part of some kind of coup attempt. Has anyone else heard that or is the family member texting me that just wondering out loud?
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Maybe Big Donny can tell them to stand by and stand down.
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)They may have been seen in the presence of others. This plot probably has multiple tentacles.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I travel through the rural area near Jim Nichols old farm on my way up to see relatives.
Jim Nichols is dead now. Thank god.
Warpy
(111,254 posts)Even the ones who are cops.
That's what they get for chasing benign leftist groups because the left scares plutocrats, while ignoring the massive threat from a heavily armed, fascist far right, much of which has infiltrated police forces.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Those goons in the White House
NorthOf270
(290 posts)We are only seeing the beginning of what could be a domestic terror campaign.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Obviously, Barr didn't know, as the plotters were not forewarned.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Wray BETTER BE PROTECTED. He is a PATRIOT and Barr is a Terrorist Enabler.
Hotler
(11,420 posts)was the Alan Berg killing here in Denver back in 1984 by a white nationalist group called The Order.
https://www.cpr.org/show-segment/murder-of-colorado-radio-man-alan-berg-still-resonates-30-years-later/
Hassler
(3,377 posts)Be a gang, or thugs.
Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/militia-kidnapping-michigan-governor-whitmer-complaint/5923896002/
It's Time for TRUMP TO GO!!! This is OUR GOVERNOR!!
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)tries to preemptively them and invite them to the WH for Mickey D's meal and shiny gold medals?
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)Looks as if they've been hating a long time there.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Not really in the urban areas of MI.
llmart
(15,536 posts)That way no one can see what they're up to. Spouse and child abusers do the same thing. In fact, I'll wager a bet that a few of these are both.
Michiganders have known about these militia whackos ever since McVeigh and Nichols got together and killed little children and others.
This Michigander wants to see them all gone. Right now. I hope they are watched carefully until they're all in jail. I also hope they get all their guns taken away.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)That's what these people are.
Question: If they had brown skin or a copy of the Q'uran and did this, would they be called terrorists? YES.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)Escurumbele
(3,389 posts)From The Guardian:
The six men charged with plotting against Whitmer were arrested on Wednesday night and each faces up to life in prison. US attorney Andrew Birge called them violent extremists.
[link:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/08/six-people-charged-plot-kidnap-michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer|
C Moon
(12,212 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)[div class="excerpt"4. ]The Wolverine Watchmen is a militia group who recruited members using a social
media platform, FaceBook, since November 2019. Once recruited, members
communicated via a secure, encrypted messaging platform. Members of Wolverine
Watchmen periodically met for field training exercises (FTXs) on private property
in remote areas where they engaged in firearms training and tactical drills to
prepare for the boogaloo, a term referencing a violent uprising against the
government or impending politically-motivated civil war. Joseph Morrison and
Pete Musico are founding members of the Wolverine Watchmen. Joseph Morrison is
considered Wolverine Watchmens Commander and is known by the online
moniker Boogaloo Bunyan.
5. The Wolverine Watchmen have called on members to identify law enforcement
officers home addresses in order to target the officers, have made threats of violence
to instigate a civil war leading to societal collapse, and have engaged in planning
and training for an operation to attack the Capitol of Michigan, and kidnap
Government officials including the Governor of Michigan.
6. Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico are individuals that reside at 8008 Dunn Rd.,
Munith, Michigan located in Jackson County where FTXs have been conducted.
Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico have hosted multiple tactical training sessions
with other members of the Wolverine Watchmen at their property. During these
trainings, specific training was provided for members to learn and practice tactical
maneuvers. The group has drawn upon their members individual skills for
trainings including tactical skills, medical knowledge, communications knowledge,
and weapons expertise. For instance, member Paul Bellar, who was appointed the
role of Sergeant, had specific expertise in medical and firearms training and
designed tactical exercises for training.
7. Wolverine Watchmen members together with another group of individuals led by
Adam Fox engaged in planning and training for various acts of violence, including
kidnapping politicians and storming the Michigan Capitol Building in Lansing.
8. Ultimately, participants of these trainings and meetings, led by Michigan resident
Adam Fox, went on to engage in a plot to kidnap the Governor of Michigan by the
November 2020 national election. In preparing for this plot, Shawn Fix, William
Null, Michael Null and Eric Molitor all aided in physical surveillance of the
Governors private vacation home. Several other members of this conspiracy are
being charged federally for their part in the plot to kidnap the Governor.
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/ag/Affidavit_shawn_fix_704644_7.pdf
BigmanPigman
(51,588 posts)it is the middle of nowhere. I can see how they were able to do this and keep it secret.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8008-Dunn-Rd-Munith-MI-49259/74090001_zpid/
Cha
(297,180 posts)After abducting Whitmer, Fox allegedly said, the governor would be taken to a secure location in Wisconsin for "trial," according to the complaint.
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/08/921655143/militia-members-plotted-to-abduct-michigan-gov-whitmer-fbi-says
AllyCat
(16,183 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)never would have plotted against a male governor