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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:00 AM Oct 2020

Scoop: Barr tells Republicans Durham report won't be ready by election

Source: Axios

Attorney General Bill Barr has begun telling top Republicans that the Justice Department’s sweeping review into the origins of the Russia investigation will not be released before the election, a senior White House official and a congressional aide briefed on the conversations tell Axios.

Why it matters: Republicans had long hoped the report, led by U.S. Attorney John Durham, would be a bombshell containing revelations about what they allege were serious abuses by the Obama administration and intelligence community probing for connections between President Trump and Russia.

“This is the nightmare scenario. Essentially, the year and a half of arguably the number one issue for the Republican base is virtually meaningless if this doesn't happen before the election," a GOP congressional aide told Axios.

Barr has made clear that they should not expect any further indictments or a comprehensive report before Nov. 3, our sources say.


Read more: https://www.axios.com/barr-durham-report-election-3c02ec6a-7613-4083-b35c-4844de6da16b.html

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Scoop: Barr tells Republicans Durham report won't be ready by election (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
I guess Barr is more than willing to play Eichmann to Trump's Hitler agingdem Oct 2020 #1
Nah, Barr has no principles. yardwork Oct 2020 #15
you're right...he has no principles agingdem Oct 2020 #23
I think you hit the nail on the head Ohioboy Oct 2020 #29
Nah, I don't think that's it. lark Oct 2020 #17
Translation - there is nothing. If there was something they would release it still_one Oct 2020 #2
This soothsayer Oct 2020 #3
Ding ding!!! We have a winner. It's exculpatory so dopey is holding on to it. ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #10
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! MissMillie Oct 2020 #35
............ still_one Oct 2020 #45
Candied sweet potatoes! It been years since I've had my mother's. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #57
I don't know that I have one either, actually MissMillie Oct 2020 #59
I would phrase it differently. StevieM Oct 2020 #50
Trump is TOAST....even Barr is backing away. Barr would just lie normally ashredux Oct 2020 #4
But Barr could TELL Trump the report would be out "any day now" brooklynite Oct 2020 #7
So maybe he's expecting Trump's theft of the election wnylib Oct 2020 #24
Silly assumption brooklynite Oct 2020 #28
Those people who have been out of power wnylib Oct 2020 #31
Philippines 1970-1979... brooklynite Oct 2020 #32
I am not saying that Trump will succeed. wnylib Oct 2020 #36
And I'm saying it's not... brooklynite Oct 2020 #37
That's encouraging. Thanks. mahina Oct 2020 #62
More like Trump telling us he's got a beautiful healthcare plan... dixiechiken1 Oct 2020 #30
Which prompt Ratcliff into releasing . . . Iliyah Oct 2020 #5
And Rat's disinformation falls out of the news cycle in a day Politicub Oct 2020 #55
Barr realizes there's nothing there PJMcK Oct 2020 #6
I am surprised they were not able to come up with some bogus scandals... honest.abe Oct 2020 #8
Well they tried! But everything was exposed as phony repug plots liberalla Oct 2020 #12
That's it. Ukraine was their go-to, and that fantasy was annihilated during impeachment hearings. yardwork Oct 2020 #16
Much like Kobach's voter fraud idiocy sharp_stick Oct 2020 #9
bc it's a nothingberder ananda Oct 2020 #11
So they aren't even pretending to be impartial anymore Dr. Jack Oct 2020 #13
Exactly--"meaningless"?? crimycarny Oct 2020 #53
Meaningless? They'll use it after the election to delegitimize the election /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #14
Hmmm... you may be onto something there. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2020 #19
to them it's a reserve tank of gas /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #20
Most likely. I think it is naive to just wnylib Oct 2020 #27
Translation: Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #18
It wont be released cuz we got NOTHING Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #21
Because it's bullshit. mountain grammy Oct 2020 #22
Don't believe it. Barr will do a summary and release that on tRUMPS orders. nt SayItLoud Oct 2020 #25
Like everything else in the covid administration kacekwl Oct 2020 #26
[ whimper ] CoryTrevor Oct 2020 #33
Lol, and Trump prolly can't fire him either.. ananda Oct 2020 #34
Uh oh, Billy gonna be in trouble with President Superspreader, who warned "I won't forget". Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #38
So Trump is getting no October surprise. marble falls Oct 2020 #39
Oh, he's gotten his October Surprise. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #43
Maybe the Durham Report makes the case that Trump was cooperating with Putin. NCjack Oct 2020 #56
LMAO zentrum Oct 2020 #40
Translation: "There is nothing to report." MineralMan Oct 2020 #41
Just like what they tried with Ukraine dansolo Oct 2020 #60
That's my bet, too Maeve Oct 2020 #61
So the scam was a complete failure. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #42
If Barr thought Trump had any chance of winning, the report would have been released. patphil Oct 2020 #44
I wonder if Barr has decided to hedge his bets on a second term for Trump by not rushing release Nitram Oct 2020 #46
Methinks he came up with jack shit and doesn't want to embarrass himself. beastie boy Oct 2020 #47
There is, OTOH, something he can easily release before election day MissMillie Oct 2020 #48
The Durham investigation and report is a BIG FAT NOTHING BURGER. nt iluvtennis Oct 2020 #49
The only thing stopping this is fear of jail Progressive dog Oct 2020 #51
Barr knew there was nothing to investigate to being with. Texin Oct 2020 #52
Hoping to use it down the road as a defense for why he should not be disbarred? cstanleytech Oct 2020 #54
Barr is now in the CYA stage. Keeping out of jail. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #58

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
1. I guess Barr is more than willing to play Eichmann to Trump's Hitler
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:04 AM
Oct 2020

but he's not willing to follow him into madness... who knew that odious Weeble had "screw-ples"????...

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
15. Nah, Barr has no principles.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:38 AM
Oct 2020

The report probably makes Republicans worse, not better.

We all know that Putin and his troll farms are actively colluding with the GOP.

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
23. you're right...he has no principles
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:07 AM
Oct 2020

Last edited Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

but he has an agenda...he understood trump and he was savvy enough to "audition" for the job...isolate the United States, torch the constitution and replace it with an authoritarian regime with Bill Barr as puppet master...and then covid came calling...and because of Trump's malignant neglect, his apathetic disregard for human life, one tell-all tome after another, losers and suckers, his taxes and massive debt, the BLM protests, and finally Trump as patient zero decimating the White House reality slammed into Barr...btw..where is that repulsive asshole...in quarantine? sick?...

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
29. I think you hit the nail on the head
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:17 AM
Oct 2020

The report, if it is honest at all, will most likely shed light on why Trump was being investigated, and not just the process.

lark

(23,091 posts)
17. Nah, I don't think that's it.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:40 AM
Oct 2020

Barri is nothing but a slimy toad and has zero morals. This means there's nothing there and they don't need to make up lies to steal the presidency. They now seem assured that SCOTUS will steal the election for them no matter how badly they lose so they don't need to roll out the Russia provided lies and expose that to further discussion. Barr wont risk his already soiled reputation for nothing, it's got to have a huge payoff, like with Mueller.

My whole family is voting early to help Biden's early numbers outpace aassmouths. If we can get the numbers for Biden higher than drumpfs of election day, he's fucked. If they count all the votes, he's fucked. Only if they somehow rig something to show fraud (which itself can b proved as fraud) will they have a chance at SCOTUS and I believe that's what they were trying with the NC story which turned out to be totally a lie. Now they will try harder.

We have to overwhelm them, VOTE!!!

MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
35. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:42 AM
Oct 2020

Sunday. My place.

Roast Chicken, candied sweet potatoes, steamed green beans and homemade carrot cake.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
57. Candied sweet potatoes! It been years since I've had my mother's.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:09 PM
Oct 2020

I swear she has held back on the recipe she gave me.

MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
59. I don't know that I have one either, actually
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:41 PM
Oct 2020

I know that I peel them, and cut them up a bit (most of the sweet potatoes you can get in the store are HUGE), and bake them in a covered dish w/ water, brown sugar and butter until tender. When I don't have brown sugar, I use maple syrup.

That's it.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
50. I would phrase it differently.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:50 AM
Oct 2020

Barr could easily release a bogus report, whether there was anything to it or not. He is not above lying.

The problem is that nobody takes him seriously anymore, so the report won't do the GOP any good. This way Republicans can keep talking about a report that is coming, and how lucky the Democrats are that it hasn't come out yet. It is easier to lie when you are are making generic, cryptic claims, rather than specific ones that can be rapidly rejected.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
7. But Barr could TELL Trump the report would be out "any day now"
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:24 AM
Oct 2020

Sort of like German Generals telling Hitler that the Firth Army was gloriously fighting back the Russians at the Elbe River.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
24. So maybe he's expecting Trump's theft of the election
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:10 AM
Oct 2020

to succeed and then would use the "report" to start rounding up the opposititon? That's what a dictator would do. Releasing the report now would show their cards before they are ready to play them. Not that there is anything of substance in the report. But Barr has demonstrated before that he is skilled at spinning report results.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
28. Silly assumption
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:15 AM
Oct 2020

NB - I've LIVED in a Dictatorship where "rounding up the opposition" occurred. You round up people who could actually oppose you. Trump's fixation is on people who've been out of power for four years.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
31. Those people who have been out of power
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:35 AM
Oct 2020

for 4 years are popular leaders in the political opposition party. One of them is the current candidate running against Trump. They are the most likely to lead the public outcry and backing of court cases against an attempted election theft by Trump. Discount those leaders with the report and portray them as the ones who are leading a coup, in order to quash opposition.

BTW, what dictatorship did you live under? Do you distinguish between the tactics of an established dictatorship versus the tactics of crushing a 2 centuries old democracy in order to transform it into a dictatorship?

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
32. Philippines 1970-1979...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:37 AM
Oct 2020

And it's precisely BECAUSE the US isn't a banana republic with a corrupt military leadership and and centralized law enforcement that I discount the conspiracy theories about how Trump will be able to seize power.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
36. I am not saying that Trump will succeed.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:49 AM
Oct 2020

I am saying what he and his team will try to do.

A few months ago, based on following reliable (not ct) reports and books on RW hate groups and militias, I warned about violent attempts by them to attack seats of government. I did not predict that they would succeed, but said that some of them would start to organize such actions, especially as we got closer to the election.

People said I was being silly because they claimed that those groups are full of fat, beer-guzzling loudmouths who are all talk and no action. Apparently the ones in Michigan do more than just talk.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
37. And I'm saying it's not...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:55 AM
Oct 2020

Trump rants about, promises, demands, and threatens many things. They never come to fruition. His staff has learned to ignore his railings. Hence Barr isn't fast tracking this "investigation".

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
30. More like Trump telling us he's got a beautiful healthcare plan...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:25 AM
Oct 2020

The most beautiful health care plan anyone's ever seen, and he'll be releasing it in two weeks.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Which prompt Ratcliff into releasing . . .
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:15 AM
Oct 2020

bullshit documents. John Brennan has already debunked them. republicans know this is total crapola on taxpayer's dime. Instead of moving bills, aid package, they rather push unqualified RW judges for their ultimate power grab.

Vote them out.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
55. And Rat's disinformation falls out of the news cycle in a day
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:58 PM
Oct 2020

I am more worried about the Supreme Court.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
6. Barr realizes there's nothing there
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:21 AM
Oct 2020

He's listened to Trump's rantings and demands but he's kicking the can down the road till after the election. When Trump loses, Durham's report will be meaningless.

I get a sense that Republicans are starting to see self-preservation as a better course than blindly following Trump.

The election results will be fascinating.

honest.abe

(8,677 posts)
8. I am surprised they were not able to come up with some bogus scandals...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:37 AM
Oct 2020

and report that just before the election. It shows Trump has lost his influence even with Barr. Sounds like Barr and others see the writing on the wall and see no reason to stick their necks out for a loser and a madman.

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
12. Well they tried! But everything was exposed as phony repug plots
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:16 AM
Oct 2020

Ukraine, burisma, hunter biden...
continuing with rudy being strung along, played by russian assets...

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
9. Much like Kobach's voter fraud idiocy
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:38 AM
Oct 2020

this looks more and more like an idiotic waste of time and money that only existed to keep Trump quiet.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
13. So they aren't even pretending to be impartial anymore
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:17 AM
Oct 2020

Barr is running to Republicans telling them a report meant to hurt Democrats won't be ready until after the election. I thought this was supposed to be an impartial, non political investigation

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
53. Exactly--"meaningless"??
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 11:25 AM
Oct 2020

I thought the point of ANY investigation was to find out the truth, not find dirt. They aren’t even trying to hide their intent which was that this was a taxpayer funded investigation solely for the purposes of smearing a political opponent. How are these guys not in jail or being investigated themselves? We’ve fallen so far and become numb to the corruption (speaking of our leaders).

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
27. Most likely. I think it is naive to just
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:14 AM
Oct 2020

dismiss the report as meaningless. They went to the trouble of producing one, so they have a purpose for it.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
56. Maybe the Durham Report makes the case that Trump was cooperating with Putin.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 04:17 PM
Oct 2020

That would be a real hoot, er, exploding TNT.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
41. Translation: "There is nothing to report."
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:14 AM
Oct 2020

It was all bogus. Not that it's surprising, but that's the story.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
60. Just like what they tried with Ukraine
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:40 AM
Oct 2020

They knew there was nothing there. They just wanted to announce an investigation to give the impression of wrongdoing. That is exactly what Trump tried with Ukraine (and got impeached over).

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
61. That's my bet, too
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:50 AM
Oct 2020

Like the study into "ballot fraud" in 2016....the commission that just faded away

patphil

(6,169 posts)
44. If Barr thought Trump had any chance of winning, the report would have been released.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:19 AM
Oct 2020

He knows all is lost. Trump's campaign is unraveling at an alarming rate. Issuing an obvious political hit piece at this time would be just another payment on an extend stay room at a federal prison for him.

He may be a loyal sycophant, but he isn't the type to fall on a live grenade.
Regardless of Barr's statements that he doesn't care how history views him, there has to be some sort of upside to supporting Trump at this time.
My guess is that Barr has decided there isn't one.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
46. I wonder if Barr has decided to hedge his bets on a second term for Trump by not rushing release
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:23 AM
Oct 2020

of this purely political hatchet job of a "report."

beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
47. Methinks he came up with jack shit and doesn't want to embarrass himself.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:25 AM
Oct 2020

At least not until the elections.

MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
48. There is, OTOH, something he can easily release before election day
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:26 AM
Oct 2020

The unredacted Mueller report.

I mean, that report is already finished. Nothing to do but release it.

And a court has ordered him to do so.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
51. The only thing stopping this is fear of jail
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 11:16 AM
Oct 2020

Barr doesn't quite dare release his regurgitated BS at this time. The Barr effort to let Flynn go free using false documents (inadvertent-haha) will make them lay low for a few weeks.
Look for him to give us a Comey type surprise closer to the election. They will do anything to win, and I mean anything.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
52. Barr knew there was nothing to investigate to being with.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 11:24 AM
Oct 2020

He was only doing it to benefit tRump. He would have invented *something* to charge them with. Ordinarily. He's proved throughout the years that he's more than willing to cover up shit for the rethug-in-chief. I think, based on everything that's piling up in the last nine months or so, and watching tRump's polling collapsing like a trap door and seeing that the other rethugs are struggling under the sheer weight of having beclowned themselves to him making themselves sacrificial goats - that it was beginning to dawn on Barr that the Trumptanic was taking on water and about to take everyone of them to the bottom of the deep blue sea. God willing.

For Barr to have rolled out this report at this time with no guarantee of tRump's relection*, it would have been foolishly dangerous. I'm thinking that his strategy will be to hold the so-called report until after November 3rd and make a decision pending the outcome. He may be hedging to find out if the results are such that the rethugs can contest it. The AG is only protected so long as the sitting POTUS allows him to be and an incoming Democratic POTUS would definitely have their DOJ investigate the *investigation*.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
58. Barr is now in the CYA stage. Keeping out of jail.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 08:15 PM
Oct 2020

If the race looked close he would release some bogus report with bogus charges. But if he does do and Biden wins he could be looking at spending the rest of his life in prison.

He has ruined what reputation he had, could potentially be disbarred, but has not crossed a line where he can be charged. He won’t now.

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