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brooklynite

(94,552 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:28 AM Oct 2020

'I've said what I'm going to say.' Cunningham won't answer questions about scandal

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Source: News & Observer

Democratic U.S. Senate nominee Cal Cunningham repeatedly declined to answer questions about his personal scandal, including whether more women would come forward with claims of extramarital affairs.

“I have taken responsibility for the hurt that I have caused in my personal life. I’ve apologized for it and I know this campaign, our campaign, is about things that are much bigger or more important than just me,” Cunningham said during a press event Friday afternoon.

Cunningham took questions for about 12 minutes at the end of a press event, which featured three supporters, including a union representative for workers in the airline industry, a small business owner from Boone and the president of the North Carolina Association of Educators.

The call was to discuss the need for more coronavirus relief, but the questions all centered on Cunningham’s personal scandal. A California woman alleges that Cunningham, a married father of two, had an extramarital affair with her this summer. Cunningham has not denied the affair and has confirmed the authenticity of sexual text messages between the woman and him.

Read more: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article246339250.html

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'I've said what I'm going to say.' Cunningham won't answer questions about scandal (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Lost opportunity Inablueway Oct 2020 #1
Not necessarily...Tillis is still disliked ...run on health care. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #11
The problem is that he doesn't seem able to "run" at all FBaggins Oct 2020 #25
It'll be unbelievable if Tillis ekes out a win because of this. BlueStater Oct 2020 #2
We really don't...this race is very important for our efforts. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #13
We need four to win. BlueStater Oct 2020 #20
We need at least two of them FBaggins Oct 2020 #26
Georgia almost impossible with Kemp as Governor lostnfound Oct 2020 #33
Ugh Roy Rolling Oct 2020 #3
Why does anybody care about affairs? Seriously. Chemisse Oct 2020 #4
In the South customerserviceguy Oct 2020 #9
Well they better vote for health care...if they want to continue to stay alive. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #16
Down here customerserviceguy Oct 2020 #51
If he can't keep his marriage vows, can he keep an oath of office? So Trumps affairs mean nothing? marble falls Oct 2020 #10
Do you want Tillis to win. Yeah these affairs mean little to nothing. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #17
Absolutely not. But I also do not believe in situational ethics for the most part, either ... marble falls Oct 2020 #36
I could care less about Trump's affairs. Chemisse Oct 2020 #50
Every women whose husband was unfaithful is going to care. lostnfound Oct 2020 #34
I agree, in the grand scheme of things... essaynnc Oct 2020 #5
They voted Reep -- I guess it's okay to be an adulterer.. ananda Oct 2020 #6
He should have taken a page out of Trumpolini's book SunnyATT Oct 2020 #7
You must not have read the texts FBaggins Oct 2020 #28
Tillis has his own scandal Hawaii Hiker Oct 2020 #8
No. It isn't getting any coverage. Likely it isn't scandalous FBaggins Oct 2020 #29
No, not at all. The ads are nonstop about Cunningham affair, mixed in with Tillis money from pharma lostnfound Oct 2020 #38
Tillis let a fucking criminal off the hook last February, you know the asshole that was Impeached turbinetree Oct 2020 #12
Did he rape her? JohnnyRingo Oct 2020 #14
Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Oct 2020 #18
+1 dalton99a Oct 2020 #19
the military cares catsudon Oct 2020 #31
Or maybe just not have an affair period. oldsoftie Oct 2020 #37
i agree, put me in the i do care if he was in my district. catsudon Oct 2020 #42
Then that same military should be voting for Biden, right? n/t Yavin4 Oct 2020 #53
it plays right into republicans' hands barbtries Oct 2020 #15
I just completed my absentee ballot. Voted for Cunningham mnhtnbb Oct 2020 #21
Trump has been accused of sexually assaulting over 20 women and raping one. BlueStater Oct 2020 #22
And dont forget, trumps wife had JUST had their BABY when he did it. oldsoftie Oct 2020 #39
I seriously don't care if he has had a dozen women. But damn, don't risk control of the Senate!! lostnfound Oct 2020 #41
I have given a lot to his campaign and I have right to be fucking pissed texasfiddler Oct 2020 #23
I did too XanaDUer2 Oct 2020 #48
I would have said no one cares about trumps affairs SoonerPride Oct 2020 #24
Thats exactly what he should do. good idea. oldsoftie Oct 2020 #40
Consenting adults texting is so scandalous IronLionZion Oct 2020 #27
What is going to happed if the Reserves announce a courtmarshal before November? ripcord Oct 2020 #30
I can't imagine that they would be able to so quickly FBaggins Oct 2020 #32
Is it too late for him to drop out? Polybius Oct 2020 #35
i read this catsudon Oct 2020 #44
As far as I'm concerned an "affair" involves consent pandr32 Oct 2020 #43
"None of your business" might have been more effective Warpy Oct 2020 #45
"My private failings don't ruin your lives..." mainer Oct 2020 #46
His press conference, where he tried to get by this, was a shit-show. Calista241 Oct 2020 #47
Girlfriend screwed up. Thrax Oct 2020 #49
If an NC voter votes against Cunningham because of his affair, then that same voter should be voting Yavin4 Oct 2020 #52
LOCKING applegrove Oct 2020 #54
 

Inablueway

(56 posts)
1. Lost opportunity
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:32 AM
Oct 2020

Cunningham probably has lost Dems a seat by thinking with his dick.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
11. Not necessarily...Tillis is still disliked ...run on health care.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:07 AM
Oct 2020

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
25. The problem is that he doesn't seem able to "run" at all
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:37 AM
Oct 2020

He appears to be hoping that he can coast through the next three weeks without showing up in public.

It could work. He had a decent sized lead considering he's the challenger (as you said... Tillis is not very popular).

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
2. It'll be unbelievable if Tillis ekes out a win because of this.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:43 AM
Oct 2020

I cannot state enough how much of an asshole this guy is. How stupid and selfish can you possibly get?!

At least we have plenty of other races to fall back on if this goes south.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
13. We really don't...this race is very important for our efforts.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:08 AM
Oct 2020

The Senate is looking better but still a tough nut to crack.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
20. We need four to win.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:24 AM
Oct 2020

Arizona and Colorado are practically in the bag at this point and it’s very likely we’ll win Maine as well.

Iowa, Kansas, Montana, both Georgia seats, and South Carolina are all competitive. We just need to win one of them and the Senate will in Democratic hands again.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
26. We need at least two of them
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:42 AM
Oct 2020

Essentially zero chance of holding Alabama. And Michigan, while looking pretty good, is not entirely safe.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
33. Georgia almost impossible with Kemp as Governor
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:49 PM
Oct 2020

I’m in North Carolina and Tillis is awful. We needed this one. So annoying and stupid.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
3. Ugh
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:54 AM
Oct 2020

In the midst of a Congressional campaign. The NC Democratic Party shoulda put a bell on that alley cat.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
4. Why does anybody care about affairs? Seriously.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:09 AM
Oct 2020

With all the really horrible scandals, who the hell cares about this?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. In the South
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:37 AM
Oct 2020

a large proportion of African-American voters are deeply religious. Cunningham's shenanigans are not going to be looked upon kindly by Black church ladies in NC. No, they won't vote for Tillis, but some of them just might decide not to vote in the US Senate race.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
16. Well they better vote for health care...if they want to continue to stay alive.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:09 AM
Oct 2020

Who cares about this? We have way more important things to worry about this.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
51. Down here
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:33 PM
Oct 2020

character counts. Cunningham should have thought about that while he was fooling around.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
10. If he can't keep his marriage vows, can he keep an oath of office? So Trumps affairs mean nothing?
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:04 AM
Oct 2020

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
17. Do you want Tillis to win. Yeah these affairs mean little to nothing.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:10 AM
Oct 2020

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
36. Absolutely not. But I also do not believe in situational ethics for the most part, either ...
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:52 PM
Oct 2020

we are at this because he knew what he was into and knew what being brought to light meant and he failed to make some kind of plan up even up to withdrawing.

For example the Clinton's telling a national audience that Bill had strayed and Hilliary and Bill decided this was not going to destroy a marriage that has now lasted for decades longer, the first and only marriage for both. He soared in the polls immediately after and he won.

It's not just the cheating, it's been the absolutely terrible way he's handled it.

Just saying.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
50. I could care less about Trump's affairs.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:14 PM
Oct 2020

If only that's ALL he did wrong.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
34. Every women whose husband was unfaithful is going to care.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:51 PM
Oct 2020

I personally don’t relate, not a jealous person. But For many women, this is a big sore spot.

essaynnc

(801 posts)
5. I agree, in the grand scheme of things...
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:22 AM
Oct 2020

An extramarital affair is Small Potatoes.

Compared to taking campaign money illegally, compared to knowing about the coronavirus and selling stock, compared to voting down education money, compared to trying to end Obamacare . Compared to backing Trump on every turn.

But this is North Carolina. Lots of very religious people down here, and a sex scandal overrides who virtually everything sometimes.

On the other hand, it happens all the time... LOL!

ananda

(28,860 posts)
6. They voted Reep -- I guess it's okay to be an adulterer..
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:32 AM
Oct 2020

.. even a sexual predator like Trump.. if you're a Reep.

SunnyATT

(56 posts)
7. He should have taken a page out of Trumpolini's book
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:35 AM
Oct 2020

and denied it. "I don't know this woman". "Who is she"??? "Those text messages are fake". "Never saw her in my life"!!!

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
28. You must not have read the texts
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:46 AM
Oct 2020

She seems pretty ticked off at him in some of them. There's a clear implication that she has photos that would prove that he knows her and thought about releasing them.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
8. Tillis has his own scandal
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:36 AM
Oct 2020

DU'ers in North Carolina, are they covering this scandal like they are Cunningham's ?

http://american-ledger.com/accountability/thom-tillis-ex-wife-cites-cruel-and-inhuman-treatment-in-divorce-documents/

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
29. No. It isn't getting any coverage. Likely it isn't scandalous
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:53 AM
Oct 2020

It was reportedly over four decades ago (as opposed to during the campaign).

And it isn't really "news". We knew that there had been a divorce filing. If it isn't a friendly divorce and you can't claim abuse, child abuse, insanity, drug addiction, desertion, or adultery... you're pretty much left with "cruel or inhuman treatment".

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
38. No, not at all. The ads are nonstop about Cunningham affair, mixed in with Tillis money from pharma
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:54 PM
Oct 2020

The Cunningham texting / affair ads have been on a lot. And local cbs affiliate did a story on it.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
12. Tillis let a fucking criminal off the hook last February, you know the asshole that was Impeached
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:07 AM
Oct 2020

by the house and Tillis kept him on, and now him and Tillis have over 214,000 deaths on there watch, 32 million people out of work, and people are worried about an affair..............what is worse a homicidal maniac in the white house walking around has we speak infecting people that just don't give a shit about any kind of safety protocols towards anybody and then being enabled by a person (Tillis) that has no principles at all............JFC........

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
14. Did he rape her?
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:08 AM
Oct 2020

If not, then it should be an issue between him and his wife. Call it the Mark Sanford rule.

The only thing that will turn me against a democratic pol is stealing money from taxpayers. I get on wayward republicans for being hypocrites, not their sexually immoral behavior.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
18. Yepper spot on................
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:11 AM
Oct 2020

The Mark Stafford Rule.............

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
19. +1
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:12 AM
Oct 2020

catsudon

(839 posts)
31. the military cares
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:12 PM
Oct 2020

he is a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army Reserve


In October 2020, it was reported that Cunningham had exchanged sexually suggestive messages with a woman who was not his wife. Cunningham confirmed the texts were authentic and apologized for his behavior. Several days after the first text messages were released, more were published. The woman, a married public relations strategist from California, confirmed that she had engaged in a consensual physical relationship with Cunningham in 2020. The Army Reserve subsequently started an investigation into Cunningham. Adultery is prohibited by the military and soldiers can be prosecuted for it. The husband of the woman who confirmed having an affair with Cunningham, himself an Army veteran.

take away from this: just have affair with someone not in the military

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
37. Or maybe just not have an affair period.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:53 PM
Oct 2020

catsudon

(839 posts)
42. i agree, put me in the i do care if he was in my district.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 01:26 PM
Oct 2020

that is what suppose to make us better than the other shit party.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
53. Then that same military should be voting for Biden, right? n/t
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:49 PM
Oct 2020

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
15. it plays right into republicans' hands
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:08 AM
Oct 2020

when the media refuses to discuss the issues.
he didn't kill thousands of people or prop up the president who did. he cheated on his wife. it's bad, but it's not as bad as Tillis! There is no fucking reason for media to do this! It's not the important part.

The important part is reclaiming the Senate. I voted before this scandal broke but not for a second would it have changed my vote. jeez

mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
21. I just completed my absentee ballot. Voted for Cunningham
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

Don't these guys in NC remember Edwards? For cryin' out loud.

Trump can pay off a porn star with whom he had intercourse and it makes no difference to his supporters. Democrats need to wise up and recognize that more is at stake than whether some guy inappropriately texted with a woman not his wife. Let Mrs. Cunningham deal with him on that issue.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
22. Trump has been accused of sexually assaulting over 20 women and raping one.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:34 AM
Oct 2020

Of course that’s way worse than having an affair, but Republicans don’t care about being hypocrites and never have.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
39. And dont forget, trumps wife had JUST had their BABY when he did it.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:55 PM
Oct 2020

Republicans used to care about shit like that. Now i just hear "Well that was way before he became president"

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
41. I seriously don't care if he has had a dozen women. But damn, don't risk control of the Senate!!
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:57 PM
Oct 2020

If we lose the chance to flip the senate, or narrow the margin, because of this,wow!

texasfiddler

(1,990 posts)
23. I have given a lot to his campaign and I have right to be fucking pissed
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:35 AM
Oct 2020

Cal knew damn well this shit could get out and damage all of us. 42% of this country is batshit crazy and we need all of the swing voters we can get. Do I hope he wins over Tillis? YES. Do I think the people on DU trying to explain how Cal is not as bad as Tillis are correct? YES. Do I think this will hurt his chances in North Carolina? YES. I AM PISSED!!!!!!!!!!

XanaDUer2

(10,667 posts)
48. I did too
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 04:44 PM
Oct 2020

And im pissed. Personally, I don't care what consenting adults do, but some voters do, and if they're on the fence, this may cause them to not vote for him. So stupid of him. Tillis is awful.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
24. I would have said no one cares about trumps affairs
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:36 AM
Oct 2020

You can’t pretend you care now.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
40. Thats exactly what he should do. good idea.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:56 PM
Oct 2020

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
27. Consenting adults texting is so scandalous
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:42 AM
Oct 2020

ripcord

(5,392 posts)
30. What is going to happed if the Reserves announce a courtmarshal before November?
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:06 PM
Oct 2020

Since he is a Reserve officer he is being investigated under the UMCJ Article 134 for adultery and he made it worse by having an affair with the wife of a former enlisted man.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
32. I can't imagine that they would be able to so quickly
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:25 PM
Oct 2020

Plus... it's only a violation if he was on active duty at the time.

I'm just guessing, but I'd also imagine that senate candidates generally defer their active duty periods while they're campaigning - while the affair appears to have been pretty recent. That makes it unlikely that they'll find something they could prosecute.

OTOH... RW sites have been reporting that a former friend is aware of another affair that has been going on for years. If that turns out to be true, he has a larger problem... but in the next three weeks?

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
35. Is it too late for him to drop out?
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 12:52 PM
Oct 2020

Maybe we can replace him with a better candidate.

catsudon

(839 posts)
44. i read this
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 01:29 PM
Oct 2020

No, they can’t, not this close to the election. So says an attorney for the N.C. State Board of Elections, citing state law.

“A candidate must withdraw more than 60 days prior to the election,” general counsel Katelyn Love said in a Tuesday email sent to the Charlotte Observer by the state elections board. “After that, withdrawal is not permitted and any votes for that candidate will count for that candidate.”

pandr32

(11,583 posts)
43. As far as I'm concerned an "affair" involves consent
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 01:26 PM
Oct 2020

It is a private matter unless one is pretending religious holier-than-though family values.
Rape, sexual harassment, underage partners, sexual assault, and the like are what would be concerning.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
45. "None of your business" might have been more effective
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 02:19 PM
Oct 2020

It's the perfect response to people trying to pry into something that is none of their business.

Unless it's illegal, it's no one eles's businesss,just the parties involved and their spouses.

So he was a dumbass. Who hasn't been at one time or another?

(I'm sick to death of Democrats being held to the standard of Caesar's wife. I'm sure even Calpurnia had the occasional slip)

mainer

(12,022 posts)
46. "My private failings don't ruin your lives..."
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 02:22 PM
Oct 2020

Meanwhile, my opponent has failed YOU on Covid and now he wants to take away your healthcare."

That's what I would say to the voters.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
47. His press conference, where he tried to get by this, was a shit-show.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 02:53 PM
Oct 2020

The press in NC thinks there are more women, and until he comes clean, this is all he’s going to be talking about.

 

Thrax

(41 posts)
49. Girlfriend screwed up.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 05:54 PM
Oct 2020

Should have waited until he was a Senator.
Much more profitable.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
52. If an NC voter votes against Cunningham because of his affair, then that same voter should be voting
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:48 PM
Oct 2020

for Biden over Trump. Right?

applegrove

(118,654 posts)
54. LOCKING
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:12 PM
Oct 2020

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