Doctor Says Trump Won't Transmit Virus, Stays Quiet on Tests

[C Moon]

Last edited Sun Oct 11, 2020, 02:52 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: NBC Los Angeles news

In a memo, Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley says Trump meets the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention criteria for safely discontinuing isolation and that by "currently recognized standards" he is no longer considered a transmission risk

The White House doctor said that President Donald Trump was no longer at risk of transmitting the coronavirus but did not say explicitly whether Trump had tested negative for it. The diagnosis came as the president prepared to resume campaign rallies and other activities.

In a memo released Saturday night by the White House, Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley said Trump met the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention criteria for safely discontinuing isolation and that by "currently recognized standards" he was no longer considered a transmission risk.

The memo did not declare Trump had tested negative for the virus. But sensitive lab tests -- like the PCR test cited in the doctor's statements -- detect virus in swab samples taken from the nose and throat. Dr. William Morice, who oversees laboratories at the Mayo Clinic, said earlier this week that using the PCR tests, the president's medical team could hypothetically measure and track the amount of virus in samples over time and watch the viral load go down.

Read more: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/politics/trump-to-hold-first-in-person-event-since-coronavirus-diagnosis/2442100/

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He really wants to get Biden sick at the debate.

I edited the article because NBC changed the headline and the article. I've updated the headline and article accordingly.

[hibbing]

1. In other words, no negative tests n/t

[soothsayer]

2. That's about the size of it

[orangecrush]

4. Yup

[pnwmom]

24. Exactly. n/t

[olegramps]

50. By recognized standards he means proper distancing and masks. It is double talk, period.

[mpcamb]

51. Or that a specific amount of time has passed from onset.

Nothing that you could hang your hat on medically.
He needs to have his license revoked.

[Maxheader]

57. Not now, not ever...

Its always been a sham...for what purposes I've not a clue..

[JI7]

3. This doctor is paid off

[2naSalit]

11. Coerced is more like it.

Asshole is too cheap to pay for anything.

[JI7]

15. Ronny Jackson got a congressional seat

[luvtheGWN]

31. Dr. Conley is military.

If his Commander in Chief tells him what to say, he must obey. Alternative is dishonourable discharge or possibly court martial.

Therefore, nothing he says is necessarily credible.

[2naSalit]

34. The only homorable thing he can do is resign.

[marie999]

59. He does not have to tell a lie if it puts Americans at risk of sickness or death.

His first duty is to The Constitution.

[atreides1]

61. Well

Lying can fall under Article 134. General article:
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

I would say that intentionally spreading false(lying) information about whether Trump is a carrier, especially after he may be the actual "Typhoid Mary" of an earlier super spreader event, could be considered prejudicial to the good order and discipline, and bring discredit upon the US Navy!!!

Commander Conley does have an option...he could always resign his commission and leave the service...but it seems he's become 'Doc White House' and has decided that selling his integrity is a better value!!!

[klook]

5. I'd like a second opinion. (nt)

[C Moon]

37. Something as simple as an approved COVID test will do.

[Beartracks]

6. CDC has indicated that for mild/moderate cases, live virus is no longer detected...

... in upper respiratory samples after 10 days. It's 15-20 days for severe cases.

Apparently, virus shedding decreases once you get symptoms. Of course the corollary is that most people START shedding live virus 2-3 days before they start feeling sick.

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[still_one]

18. I assume if they gave him a PCR test, and the number of cycles was greater than 30, and they assume

by that criteria he is no longer infectious

They are avoid saying he is negative, which implies there are still pieces of the virus there, but they believe those are not infectious

They do not answer if he could get reinfected because they don’t know

However, if he has direct contact with people without masks, and some become infected, there will be a lot questions for that doctor

[FloridaBlues]

7. They need to show the copy of the negative results before anyone believes him

[Mystery sage]

8. The doctor is risking his own career for this PR move

We'll see how the dice rolls.

[Girard442]

9. The SOB is really going to skate through this, isn't he?

Unfuckingbelievable.

[flor-de-jasmim]

10. Even if true, others can transmit the virus at his rallies.

[2naSalit]

12. How conveniently timely.

[brettdale]

13. so dr conely you will have no trouble

With your kids meeting Trump with no masks?

[msongs]

14. one might almost believe he has never been infected in the first place nt

[still_one]

20. He was infected. Too many people at that superspreader event he had

[paleotn]

16. BS.

[ailsagirl]

33. Yep

Liars

[RainCaster]

17. I'm not believing anything from DFT's administration

[Raven123]

19. If Trump hadn't interfered with the the CDC previously this statement might have credibility

[PSPS]

21. ... but won't release or even discuss the presence of a negative test.

[BigmanPigman]

22. I trust actor Sean Connery's opinion more than this hack doctor.

[Docreed2003]

23. Mmmhmm, sure...whatever you say "doc"

[Cryptoad]

25. Is that da same Sawbones that,,,

said he only weighted 234 lb?

[Hekate]

46. I think that was somebody else

[yuiyoshida]

26. how do we know TRUMP really had the virus... seems to me

He should be dead by now.

[denvine]

27. This definitely makes you wonder if he had it at all.

I would put nothing past these guys to either down play the virus or to make money on a cure.

[NCjack]

28. The dox and Mr. Trump can take their masks off and hug/kiss each other

all they want.

But, I would not get within a mile of Mr. Trump.

[pazzyanne]

29. Not even on a good day!!! nt

[DallasNE]

30. That Statement Reads Like It Was Written By A Lawyer

Nowhere does he say Trump tested negative once, let alone 2 straight days. Plus Conley has a track record of not telling the whole truth. When is the last time Trump tested negative? Why is that question so hard to answer?

[yaesu]

47. Many of the states tRump is visiting have laws against knowingly infecting others with a contagion

these laws came from the overreaction of the aids virus. Maybe he's also shielding himself from future lawsuits.

[ailsagirl]

32. Who honestly believes this crap??

[Merlot]

35. Because he never had it to begin with.

This whole episode strains credibility.

I am not willing to be taken in by this con man.

[Initech]

36. I call bullshit x 100,000.

I wouldn't trust anything he says right now, especially when it comes to his own condition.

[elleng]

38. And we USED to believe the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,

imagine THAT!

[C Moon]

39. I know right? Whenever I hear something from them now, I just assume it's a lie.

[elleng]

40. Our/J. Biden's/Dem's cleanup will be HUGE!

[IcyPeas]

41. Does this Dr. Conley believe in herd immunity?

How could Trump be virus free already?

Does the doctor just believe in spreading it around?

[Le Drunkard Thomas]

42. "Trump Won't Debate Unless There's a Risk of Infecting Biden"

This is from New York Magazine three days ago. . .

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/donald-trump-pulls-out-of-debate-with-joe-biden.html

[C Moon]

60. This says it all from that article (and what I believe)

“At least the CPD has blocked him from accomplishing the 21st-century equivalent of pitching a plague corpse at an enemy.”

[yaesu]

43. without proof its fake news. nt

[ananda]

44. The CDC is compromised!

Trump forced them to change their criteria.

The doctor is a lying quack-hack.

Fuck therm all for violating oaths and remits.
They are now literally responsible for putting
out bad information that has led and will lead
to many illnesses and deaths.

Fuck them all!

[Hekate]

45. Dr Conley's been co-opted and his reputation is now shot. ETTTD

[SunSeeker]

48. Sean Conley is a piece of shit.

He has sold his decency for his position. He is endangering people as a doctor. He should have his medical license suspended.

[Sparky 1]

49. First off, Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley is an osteopath, a D.O., not an M.D.

Why is an osteopath treating for covid? I mean, they conceivably could, but would that be your first choice if you could choose whatever doctor you wanted to treat your covid?

Second, Thom Hartmann reported that on Fox "news" Chris Wallace pointed out the reason why the Election Commission HAD to go with a virtual debate for next time was because their camera people and their sound people refused to be in the same room with Trump. Additionally, they couldn't find enough uncommitted voters for a town hall format who were willing to be in the same room with Trump. That makes sense. I could be wrong but I doubt if that would change on Cmdr. Sean Conley's say, especially when
Trump was just coughing when talking with Sean Hannity.

[Yeehah]

52. FFS, an osteopath is a fully qualified physician

I thought this stupid argument was finished.

[obamanut2012]

55. Yup -- my doctor is a DO, attended a top-tier med school

had the same curriculum as the MDs who graduated. Best doctor I've ever had.

[Sparky 1]

62. Well, excuse this grandmother with a degree in Medical Technology. Is everyone here rude?

[Yeehah]

63. You're excused.

If you work in a medical field, you should know that a D.O. is a physician, fully qualified to treat any condition that an M.D. would treat.

[Sancho]

53. Let's see Dr. Sean Conley shaking hands with MF45 and wearing no mask and prove what he says!

[Paladin]

54. Presidential pimp Sean Conley needs to lose his medical license. Immediately. (nt)

[MySideOfTown]

56. So this means...

Don was definitely contagious during the debate in Cleveland?

[bluestarone]

58. I might might might believe this IF

ALL the drs. that are treating RUMP would remove their masks AND KISS and HUG RUMP!!! Remember i said MIGHT!!

[Yeehah]

64. Trump bumpkin doctors are subject to losing medical licenses from states

Correct? If a doctor knowingly acts or fails to act resulting in a public health hazard, I say he/she shouldn't be a doctor.