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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 09:53 AM Oct 2020

California GOP installed unofficial ballot drop-off boxes. State officials say they're illegal.

Source: Washington Post

By Katie Shepherd

Oct. 12, 2020 at 5:50 a.m. EDT

The metal boxes have popped up around Southern California in recent weeks, from churches to gun stores to gyms. On the front, an authoritative-looking sign beckons to voters: “Official ballot drop-off box.”

The California GOP has pushed voters to pop their mail-in ballots inside. Social media posts have advertised their locations, and one regional field director posted a photo to Twitter on Friday showing him holding a ballot in front of one of the boxes.

“Doing my part and voting early,” Jordan Tygh wrote in the now-deleted tweet, which was reviewed by The Washington Post before it was removed. “DM me for convenient locations to drop your ballot off at!”

But those containers, which were first reported by the Orange County Register and KCAL, are not county-authorized ballot drop-off sites. In fact, the unofficial boxes are against the law, state officials said Sunday.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/12/california-illegal-ballot-boxes/#click=https://t.co/JP8P8bIKMb



What's that about "rigged"?
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California GOP installed unofficial ballot drop-off boxes. State officials say they're illegal. (Original Post) George II Oct 2020 OP
Decoys! That's a loser's strategy for sure. Newest Reality Oct 2020 #1
so start arresting people and hold them in COVID infected jails beachbumbob Oct 2020 #2
These fuckers plan 24 hrs. a day bluestarone Oct 2020 #3
They seem to be at places the Rs would go. So are they planning on scooping up the LiberalArkie Oct 2020 #4
Probably. Laelth Oct 2020 #5
Right. They aren't going to win Calif. so why do this dirt... brush Oct 2020 #9
If California's electoral votes are held up in Court due to fraud ... Laelth Oct 2020 #10
That is a thought, but wouldn't they have to "steal/dump" a... brush Oct 2020 #14
I don't know. Laelth Oct 2020 #15
Congressional races? Auggie Oct 2020 #11
Maybe they won't win California in the presidential race PatSeg Oct 2020 #37
Congress. There are some close contests Retrograde Oct 2020 #41
It's Orange County, home to many Republicans. Lonestarblue Oct 2020 #27
That's certainly possible. n/t Laelth Oct 2020 #28
Noticed that too and deep sixing them doesn't help R's Ligyron Oct 2020 #6
I believe it's an election night strategy ... aggiesal Oct 2020 #12
That's what I imagine their game plan to be. n/t Laelth Oct 2020 #16
Arrest Would Seem In Order, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2020 #7
Last election fraud regarding gathering ballots... mwooldri Oct 2020 #8
You Are Always So Polite, Magistrate! COL Mustard Oct 2020 #21
+1. Republicans are thieves and criminals dalton99a Oct 2020 #32
So GOP can put in [illegal] drop off boxes in red area, but they go to court to prevent add'l legal iluvtennis Oct 2020 #13
Of course PatSeg Oct 2020 #39
Yep, double standard. nt iluvtennis Oct 2020 #42
NAMES! We need to know the names of who originated this scam, and who not_the_one Oct 2020 #17
Then order state police to confiscate the boxes Maeve Oct 2020 #18
My first thought was...arrest these people. This is against the law. Paper Roses Oct 2020 #25
If someone suddenly placed slot machines out on the sidewalk in various locations...... Bengus81 Oct 2020 #40
Let Rethugs use them NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #19
Do The Republics Actually Think This Will Help Them Win CA?????? COL Mustard Oct 2020 #20
Perhaps part of a strategy of demonstrating a 'crooked/unfair/rigged/tainted' election bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #23
They could keep Katie Porter from getting elected again. Mr.Bill Oct 2020 #35
So they can dispose of Democratic votes? bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #22
Every one needs to be seized pandr32 Oct 2020 #24
Time to make ratfucking an election a felony lonely bird Oct 2020 #26
Dear CA GOP... apnu Oct 2020 #29
sounds like they're shooting themselves in the foot Astraea Oct 2020 #30
"A felony that carries a two-to-four-year prison sentence" dalton99a Oct 2020 #31
i wish somone well healed would sue and say ,"quit interfering w my right to vote" . AllaN01Bear Oct 2020 #33
Say Illegal,,,???? Cryptoad Oct 2020 #34
The "law and order" party strikes again. flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #36
Read his sign on the front of the box. This PUKE wasn't just kidding around........... Bengus81 Oct 2020 #38
California GOP says it owns unofficial ballot drop boxes (and it's not going to remove them) Eugene Oct 2020 #43

LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
4. They seem to be at places the Rs would go. So are they planning on scooping up the
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 10:07 AM
Oct 2020

ballots and declare that the Democratic workers disposed of them?

brush

(53,764 posts)
9. Right. They aren't going to win Calif. so why do this dirt...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:17 AM
Oct 2020

of setting up false drop boxes they plan to scoop up later and disappear the ballots inside?

Maybe they plan to dump the ballots some where where they'll be found so they can then claim vote rigging? Who knows but that won't work either as Calif. is so massively Democratic some allegedly "stolen/dumped" ballots won't hardly register a blip on vote talleys in the deep blue state.

They're outsmarting themselves on this one.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. If California's electoral votes are held up in Court due to fraud ...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:21 AM
Oct 2020

... the whole, national election gets thrown into Court because Joe probably can’t win on election day without CA’s electors.

-Laelth

brush

(53,764 posts)
14. That is a thought, but wouldn't they have to "steal/dump" a...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

huge number of ballots for it to be considered nothing more than scattered instances of irregularities, which occur in every election?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
15. I don't know.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:34 AM
Oct 2020

That determination would have to be made by the Court if the Republicans filed suit.

-Laelth

PatSeg

(47,376 posts)
37. Maybe they won't win California in the presidential race
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:58 PM
Oct 2020

but there are congressional races, as well as state and local ones. If they placed them in primarily republican areas, they could be trying to make it more convenient for their people to vote. Whatever the reason, it is beyond the pale even for republicans. Obviously laws are for other people, not them.

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
41. Congress. There are some close contests
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 02:25 PM
Oct 2020

in Orange County, and if they can hold the seats they have and maybe pick up Katie Porter's they'll see it as a win.

Lonestarblue

(9,967 posts)
27. It's Orange County, home to many Republicans.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:15 PM
Oct 2020

I suspect the goal was to look at the names on the ballots and check the voter registration database to see whether they were Democrats or Republicans. Democratic ballots would mysteriously disappear.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
6. Noticed that too and deep sixing them doesn't help R's
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 10:15 AM
Oct 2020

They might lose a state Rep or two even.

Odd...

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
12. I believe it's an election night strategy ...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:29 AM
Oct 2020

(R)'s really want to proclaim that the election was rigged.
Retrieving these ballots and holding them back will allow them to
announce that the (D)'s rigged the election by not counting (R)'s ballots.

Presto we have thousands of uncounted (R)'s ballots!

It doesn't have to be true to get the Trumpettes all riled up.

mwooldri

(10,302 posts)
8. Last election fraud regarding gathering ballots...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:14 AM
Oct 2020

... was a Republican scheme and they had to redo the election. Republicans in NC got caught and AFAIK is still on trial, but I'm sleepy so not 100% on recall at the moment.

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
13. So GOP can put in [illegal] drop off boxes in red area, but they go to court to prevent add'l legal
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:30 AM
Oct 2020

drop off boxes from being installed across taxes.

GOP are nothing but thugs.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
17. NAMES! We need to know the names of who originated this scam, and who
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 11:43 AM
Oct 2020

approved it, who dropped them off, and who is collecting the ballots.

THEN JAIL for them all!

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
25. My first thought was...arrest these people. This is against the law.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 12:44 PM
Oct 2020

Not that any tRump fans will abide. This upsets me so much. I hope to live long enough to see tRump, his family and his crooked staff in jail. They are destroying our country in any way they and their followers can conjure up.

I don't know about you but I'm scared to death!

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
40. If someone suddenly placed slot machines out on the sidewalk in various locations......
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 02:03 PM
Oct 2020

How long till authorities picked those up?? Why do they have to wring their Susan Collins hands over this and wonder what to do??


GO GET THE FUCKING THINGS!!

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
20. Do The Republics Actually Think This Will Help Them Win CA??????
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 12:02 PM
Oct 2020

There would have to be MASSIVE disqualifications for them to win there. Why even do this? Makes no sense to me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
23. Perhaps part of a strategy of demonstrating a 'crooked/unfair/rigged/tainted' election
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 12:22 PM
Oct 2020

and asking courts to invalidate the results.

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
35. They could keep Katie Porter from getting elected again.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:40 PM
Oct 2020

We took a lot of House seats from them in 2018, and they will be close races this year.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
22. So they can dispose of Democratic votes?
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 12:20 PM
Oct 2020

Or is there a system as in many states, where voters are emailed of the arrival of their ballot.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
24. Every one needs to be seized
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 12:27 PM
Oct 2020

They are meant to rat-f*ck the election and may already contain ballots that need to be placed in correct boxes.

apnu

(8,754 posts)
29. Dear CA GOP...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:20 PM
Oct 2020

... if you're mad the Dems held "ballot parties" with legal, notarized 3rd parties delivering ballots, might I suggest you avoid trying to prove whatever your point is, with election fraud?

Look CA GOP, I know laws can be confusing and hard to read if you aren't experienced in reading legal documents, but consult a lawyer before you do anything. That's free advice from me to you.

Love and kisses.

Apnu.

Astraea

(465 posts)
30. sounds like they're shooting themselves in the foot
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:22 PM
Oct 2020

their constituency is dumb enough to fall for this.

dalton99a

(81,433 posts)
31. "A felony that carries a two-to-four-year prison sentence"
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:25 PM
Oct 2020
Erecting or advertising unofficial ballot boxes could be a felony that carries a two-to-four-year prison sentence, according to the secretary of state’s office.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
34. Say Illegal,,,????
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:29 PM
Oct 2020

I havent heard of any arrest or boxes being confiscated????? Are we going to wait until after the election before taking any actions?

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
38. Read his sign on the front of the box. This PUKE wasn't just kidding around...........
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 01:59 PM
Oct 2020

Like he'll claim IF they do anything to him. They have his NAME and PIC. GO ARREST him like you'd do a black guy in five seconds.

FUCK!!!

Eugene

(61,862 posts)
43. California GOP says it owns unofficial ballot drop boxes (and it's not going to remove them)
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 08:07 PM
Oct 2020

Source: Associated Press

California GOP says it owns unofficial ballot drop boxes

By AMY TAXIN
October 12, 2020

LOS ANGELES (AP) — California’s Republican Party on Monday acknowledged owning unofficial ballot drop boxes that state election officials said are illegal.

After receiving reports about the drop boxes in three counties, California’s secretary of state issued a memo Sunday telling county registrars these boxes were illegal and that ballots must be mailed or brought to official voting locations.

“In short, providing unauthorized, non-official vote-by-mail ballot drop boxes is prohibited by state law,” the memo said.

On Monday, state GOP spokesman Hector Barajas said that the party owns the boxes and has no plans to remove them. He would not say how many exist or where they are located. Barajas said the state’s law governing so-called ballot harvesting allows an organization to collect and return groups of ballots and that collection boxes provided by a private organization to help people vote are no different.

-snip-


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-fresno-elections-california-santa-ana-be803bfe99f5eb35e17a6ee56315deb0
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