Justice Democrats go all-in on Biden

[brooklynite]

Source: Politico

A leading progressive group that attacked Joe Biden in the primary is launching a six-figure ad buy aimed at electing him this fall.

Justice Democrats, the organization that recruited Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) to run for Congress, is airing a new digital spot in the battleground states of Pennsylvania and Arizona as part of its effort to support Biden.

The ad buy marks the first time the group is spending money to back Biden, which it is doing through an independent expenditure.

The digital ad, reported first by POLITICO, features a fed-up mother who lost her job because of the coronavirus and is caring for her child at home, all while being frustrated by President Donald Trump’s management of the pandemic. Like other progressive campaigns supporting Biden, it doesn’t attempt to sugarcoat the fact that Biden is an unexciting candidate to many on the left — a candid approach that progressives say is needed to connect with infrequent voters and Bernie Sanders supporters.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/15/justice-democrats-go-all-in-on-biden-429600

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. So the juicebox revolutionaries are still demanding to be excited

and need to have it explained to them in painful detail why that shouldn't have to be necessary?

I'm glad they're finally getting off their entitled butts and doing something useful, but jeez....

[demmiblue]

3. My republican neighbor has the same sentiments toward our younger folks...

regarding them being entitled. He is always bitching and moaning that his generation had it a lot worse. And his son is a social worker who, from what I understand, spouts the same b.s. about his clients.

[George II]

2. They waited until less that 3 weeks before the election? Thanks so much JD! By the way....

...a "six-figure ad buy" could be a mere $100,000.

[beastie boy]

4. And it only took them four years of their agenda being shredded to pieces by Trump to

do the right thing... Or perhaps I should say do the halfass right thing - they still, after all these years, seem to be less than excited to make a modest attempt at saving the remnants of the progressive movement they so cherish, allegedly.

[UT_democrat]

6. here's a subject

Aren't you sick of an agenda that is never fought tooth and nail for? I am.

[beastie boy]

7. Fight tooth and nail for what? An all too predictable destruction of your agenda?

No, I am not sick and tired of that. Fighting tooth and nail against the overwhelming odds of failure is a piss poor substitute for realistically assessing your options for escaping failure. If nothing else, the past four years should have taught you how disastrous the consequences of fighting tooth and nail can turn out to be. Under these circumstances, lack of excitement for a candidate who can salvage the remnants of your thoroughly shattered agenda should be the last thing on your mind.

[George II]

11. I think what prompted them is that they saw they have a 9% success rate for their endorsements....

And in a campaign that has probably exceeded a billion dollars combined, a mere $100,000 is trivial.

[Demsrule86]

5. Good I welcome everyone to our side.

[Mister Ed]

8. Me too. Justice Democrats, Lincoln Project - anyone who wants to preserve democracy.

Of course, JD and LP will later fight it out tooth and nail in the great arena of democracy, once we've all saved the arena from destruction. That's the way it should be.

[mountain grammy]

10. Exactly!

That's the way it should be

[betsuni]

9. "maybe you don't like the other guy running for president." It's not about a guy. It's the party.

Vote for the progressive party. "I don't like either guy" is way too both sides (I guess I should be grateful they don't use that bullshit "lesser of two evils" thing). I don't care for the ad. Too self-centered. I lost my job, I don't like anybody right now. The theme this year is unity.

"Left-wing groups" are "vowing to take him on in an attempt to push through progressive policy." I don't understand. They think if progressive policy passes Congress that Biden would veto and they have to "take him on"? What does "take him on" even mean. For years we've heard about "taking on" the media, the establishment, etc. I guess that means yell at them. There've been a lot of posts of concern that other groups doing ads shouldn't be trusted, "they're not our friends" and so on, but they're "taking on" Republicans in a clear dynamic way and haven't said anything about taking on Biden after the election.

[vsrazdem]

14. A majority of the country does not vote for party. They vote for the president. that is why they

need to get independents.

[Violet_Crumble]

15. That's kind of scary. I assumed Trump has his approx 40% out of loyalty to party...

Y'know, the people who blindly vote for whoever their party offers up because that's what they've always done. I find things a whole lot more disturbing if there's a sizeable number of Americans who are voting for Trump solely because he's Trump and they agree with the hatred, racism and authoritarianism that he's peddling ...

[vsrazdem]

16. Most of the independents will be voting for Biden, at least that is what the polls show.

[Violet_Crumble]

17. I knew someone online who I suspect voted for Trump in 2016...

I think mainly because they detested Hillary Clinton, and they kept on saying that Trump wouldn't be that bad. I wish I could track them down and shove those words down their throat! I don't really understand the whole Independent thing. I'm assuming they're fence-sitters or something like that.

I hope when this election is over and the damage from Trump is repaired that the US looks seriously at sorting out its elections and voting. My strong suggestions based on how it's done here are:

1. Mandatory voting on a weekend that doesn't clash with big sporting events
2. Independent electoral commission is responsible for polling booths and counting votes and electoral integrity
3. Lots and lots of polling booths with democracy sausages* on offer
4. An end to the two party system (Hare-Clarke is a pretty good system to go with)
5. Quit it with all the fundraising money stuff! It's obscene that so many people live in poverty while the presidential candidates are pulling in millions in fundraising
6. Your Supreme Court setup sucks. Don't know if our High Court is better, but it's not nearly as politicised...

DEMOCRACY SAUSAGE!!

[betsuni]

20. Democratic voters vote for Democrats because they agree with policies, Republican voters

vote for Republicans even though they don't like their policies. They do vote for party. Everybody else doesn't know the difference between parties.

[vsrazdem]

21. Correct. As i said, 42% of voters consider themselves independent. They vote for the person.

[The Magistrate]

12. Glad To Hear It, Sir

It's something. Not worth a cookie, but something....

[Violet_Crumble]

13. It's something that should be welcomed by everyone opposed to Trumpelthinskin..

Hello, it's been a long time. Fueled by several hours of watching interviews on YouTube with folk like Mary Trump, James Comey, and others who go deeper than the sheer ugliness, pettiness, narcissism and warn about the massive and very disturbing risk to American democracy and the country's national security, as someone watching what's happening in the US from elsewhere in the world, I've got a bit to say....

Every vote for Joe Biden should be encouraged and embraced. Every individual, organisation, or political group who does ads supporting Joe Biden should be welcomed with open arms and a lack of looking down one's nose. It doesn't matter what gripes some people have with them, none of that matters. Normally I'd be turned off by Joe Biden's centrism, but if I was a US citizen, right now nothing would stop me from voting for him. This election is a referendum on Trumpelthinskin, who is a danger to the entire world if he gets another four years as president. On a lesser level of importance is that Joe Biden is a decent and reasonably honest person, and the exact opposite of Donald Trump. What's far more important is that Joe Biden puts the interests of the US first (and at times I've disagreed strongly with some actions taken in the interests of the US, as you'd be aware). Joe Biden isn't beholden to Russia and isn't someone who only thinks of what benefits himself. He'll make a pretty decent President if things go as I hope they do in November.

Yeah, so it pisses me off to see people whining about timing and not enough and whatever else it is they want to pick and niggle about. This isn't aimed at you, but generally. To those folk, build a big fucking bridge and get over it and focus on what matters, making sure that every person who is thinking about voting for Joe Biden, no matter how grudgingly, is brought into the fold and welcomed. Now's not the time for drama. Seriously, get your priorities right, people.

btw, we have an election here tomorrow and I voted early coz of Covid (no active cases now in this little covid-bubble for about 3 months, but we're still being careful). I compared the hours long wait I've seen in the US to the no waiting, less than five minutes to vote exercise I did during my lunch break while I'm still working from home. I voted for the Greens, but our system is different and I'm voting for basically a left-wing coalition that will hopefully continue to govern us

Hope you've been well...

[The Magistrate]

18. Good To See You, Ma'am

I've been well enough to keep waking up.

I am glad to see them doing this, and hope they have honed their message to something their flock can move to. As you may expect, though, I am tired of the 'no bread's better than half a loaf' crew, and do not forgive the harm they have done. I might vote differently in a system such as yours, but trying to vote as if in a multi-party parliamentary system when that is not the system around you is patent idiocy

Best of luck turning out your current numbskulls. Sorry you finally got a dose of the puritans....


"I never forgive. I often forget."

[Violet_Crumble]

19. And you too, Sir

If I didn't have the luxury of distance, I know I would be unable to forgive nor forget the devastating harm those who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton led to. Thanks to them and the quirkiness and total undemocraticness of the Electoral College, the US is now faced with the real risk of losing democracy at the hands of a not-at-all-bright former reality TV star who wants to run the US like he's a mob-boss ruling over it.

Our numbskulls are painful and so very annoying, but thankfully initially managed to do the bipartisan thing when covid struck and came up with some pretty sensible and reasonable reactions to deal with it (apart from aged care, which is a nightmare). But I compare them to the current US administration and know things could be so far worse for us.

I don't post here much anymore, but I'm so hoping that in early November that I can join in with celebrating a new US President that's worthy of the position.