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brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:29 AM Oct 2020

Scoop: Trump's advisers brace for loss, point fingers

Source: Axios

Three senior Trump advisers who recently talked to campaign manager Bill Stepien walked away believing he thinks they will lose.

The big picture: The Trump campaign is filled with internal blaming and pre-spinning of a potential loss, accelerating a dire mood that's driven by a daily barrage of bleak headlines, campaign and White House officials tell me.
* "A lot of this is the president himself," one adviser said. "You can't heal a patient who doesn't want to take the diagnosis."

Behind the scenes: In weekly pep talks, Stepien tells staff members why they shouldn't pay attention to the perennially horrible public polls — and how they can "win the week" and the campaign.
* But in other private conversations, described by multiple sources, Stepien can seem darkly pessimistic. He likens the campaign to an airplane flying through turbulence, saying: "It's our job to safely land the plane."
* Three sources who have heard Stepien use variations of the airplane analogy say they sensed he was deeply, perhaps irretrievably pessimistic about the state of the race.
* "It's not a great feeling when you get the sense the campaign manager doesn't deep down think we're going to win," one campaign source said.

...snip...

Between the lines: Stepien's critics say he is in CYA mode, refusing to make tough decisions that might incur Trump's wrath while setting up excuses for what polls suggest could be a shellacking by Joe Biden.
* But Stepien's defenders tell me the campaign sees several remaining paths to victory, and note that it's hardly his fault when the president insists on actions like taking a joyride with the Secret Service while infected by COVID-19.
* They added that it's also hardly Stepien's fault that Trump continues to attack his public health officials and present views that are out of step with public opinion — such as his denigration of the basic safety act of wearing a mask.
* He's also dealing with a money shortage, driven by heavy early spending by his predecessor, Brad Parscale, who was demoted this summer.



Read more: https://www.axios.com/trump-advisers-brace-for-loss-02d6b688-4d15-46f8-a28c-efdf2a5640c3.html



As long as the last paycheck clears?
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Scoop: Trump's advisers brace for loss, point fingers (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Almost a "republicans in disarray" headline. unblock Oct 2020 #1
Well Bill, have you tried rearranging the deck chairs? vlyons Oct 2020 #2
In 10 more days the follow out will be apparent all over trump's campaign as well as the GOP beachbumbob Oct 2020 #3
Ha ha DemUnleashed Oct 2020 #4
There is One Person that Should Take 100% Blame for his Loss-Donald J. Trump Stallion Oct 2020 #5
"Should" but won't. apnu Oct 2020 #8
In his 3 scenerios the easiest one seems doable at first glance GusBob Oct 2020 #6
They Might Want To Start Working On Their Resumes... smb Oct 2020 #7
Won't Matter If Moscow Mitch Is In Charge of Senate modrepub Oct 2020 #9
Time out for a second while I savor GopherGal Oct 2020 #10
Cue the finger pointing and flurry of lawsuits Warpy Oct 2020 #11
"An airplane flying through turbulence"? Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #12
But Stepien's defenders note that it's hardly his fault..." Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #13
What a Joyous gawd damn day!!! BootinUp Oct 2020 #14
This is especially delicious being that they alone, have only themselves and trump to blame. No one SWBTATTReg Oct 2020 #15
It's been three and a half years coming. Even he shouldn't be surprised. marble falls Oct 2020 #16
I don't understand why Trump's advisers would feel down. SergeStorms Oct 2020 #17
brace for impact... Javaman Oct 2020 #18
hard to win something when your candidate is a psychotic poop flinging ape. nt Javaman Oct 2020 #19
Trump's staff knows he's going to lose but they are afraid to confront him. honest.abe Oct 2020 #20
"As long as the last paycheck clears?" WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2020 #21
Stepian was also McCain's campaign manager, I think. I know that Nicole Wallace and Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #22
Stephan was a REGIONAL Campaign Manager and Field Director brooklynite Oct 2020 #23
Kick ck4829 Oct 2020 #24

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. Well Bill, have you tried rearranging the deck chairs?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:39 AM
Oct 2020

Maybe you should get everyone who will be useful to you later into their life preservers and life boats now.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. In 10 more days the follow out will be apparent all over trump's campaign as well as the GOP
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:43 AM
Oct 2020

no significant move in the polls and certain and massive defeats

DemUnleashed

(633 posts)
4. Ha ha
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:55 AM
Oct 2020

Ha ha...I initially read "In weekly pep talks" as "In weakly pep talks!" Ha ha....that's would make more sense...the morale at these pep talks must be so low and weak!

apnu

(8,749 posts)
8. "Should" but won't.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:27 PM
Oct 2020

Trump hasn't taken responsibility for a single thing in his life. He won't start now.

The bullshit he will spew to explain why its not his fault will be legendary.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
6. In his 3 scenerios the easiest one seems doable at first glance
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:05 PM
Oct 2020

I don't know what the deal is with Maine's second congressional district.

If they call Florida for Biden in that best case path, its lights out

smb

(3,471 posts)
7. They Might Want To Start Working On Their Resumes...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:20 PM
Oct 2020

...and arrange fake references to say they were doing a more respectable job like "bouncer in a brothel" or "advertising sign juggler".

modrepub

(3,488 posts)
9. Won't Matter If Moscow Mitch Is In Charge of Senate
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:28 PM
Oct 2020

He'll stymie anything the Democratic party wants then try and blame them when everything goes wrong. That guy's only interested in wielding his own power.

GopherGal

(2,007 posts)
10. Time out for a second while I savor
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:29 PM
Oct 2020

the idea that the "Death Star" campaign is now "an airplane flying through turbulence".






Okay. [/savor] I'm done now.

Of course you've got a tough job if you have to try and advise a man famous for disregarding advice and following his own gut. But zero sympathy for anybody who comes on board this late in the game without realizing what they've tied themselves to.

Warpy

(111,123 posts)
11. Cue the finger pointing and flurry of lawsuits
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 PM
Oct 2020

among any of them who won't be facing criminal charges. My prediction all along has been that if Dumdum is ousted, he will spend himself down to zero suing everybody he thinks was responsible for his defeat. Anyone who ever worked for him will be in the crosshairs, and they will all richly deserve it. The only one with immunity will be Ivanka. The rest have stuffed their feet into their mouths too often to be exempt.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,451 posts)
12. "An airplane flying through turbulence"?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:54 PM
Oct 2020

How about an airplane, that is on fire, with total engine failure, one wing missing, no landing gear, being flown by a barking mad lunatic who has never flown a paper airplane, never mind a jet; whose strategy for landing safely is to batter the flight controls with an axe.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,451 posts)
13. But Stepien's defenders note that it's hardly his fault..."
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:59 PM
Oct 2020

Dude!

Stepien signed on to the Titanic as a Limbo dance instructor five minutes after the ship went bow up in the water.

SWBTATTReg

(22,059 posts)
15. This is especially delicious being that they alone, have only themselves and trump to blame. No one
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:44 PM
Oct 2020

else. Gutter mouths...think by mocking people for all variety of things such as serving in the armed forces, being disabled, being a senior, etc., the list goes on of who's been mocked or made fun of, works?

People are sick and tired of this administration and all things trump. Sick of it. Enough of the crazy talk, enough of the ranting and raving, it doesn't look good on any of you. But, can't tell you anything, eh? Maybe now, with the way trump was acting w/ Guthrie in the Town Hall he had, trump has realized that he's the biggest loser, and is trying to shift his image, but way way way too late.

SergeStorms

(19,148 posts)
17. I don't understand why Trump's advisers would feel down.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:58 PM
Oct 2020

Christ, look who they have to work with! They could probably get any other human being elected in a nano-second. They have to get Donald Fucking Trump re-elected, and that's an impossibility!

Javaman

(62,497 posts)
18. brace for impact...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:14 PM
Oct 2020

the orange assholes flight to no where is about to crash. it will not be a graceful landing. it will be a fucking mess.

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
20. Trump's staff knows he's going to lose but they are afraid to confront him.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:43 PM
Oct 2020

Its very much like the "emperor has no clothes" situation. Trump's bluster is at this point is meaningless except to give his hard core rabid supporters something to cheer about.

Demsrule86

(68,455 posts)
22. Stepian was also McCain's campaign manager, I think. I know that Nicole Wallace and
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:21 AM
Oct 2020

and Steve scmidt worked for McCain's campaign. but Stepian was there too.

brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
23. Stephan was a REGIONAL Campaign Manager and Field Director
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:59 AM
Oct 2020

Rick Davis was the National Campaign Manager

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