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brooklynite

(94,741 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:01 PM Oct 2020

Trump is racing from rally to rally. But is it helping him?

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Source: New York Times

There are 15 days left until Election Day. Tens of millions of Americans have already voted. Joseph R. Biden Jr. is leading in the polls, and President Trump’s last chance to turn things around might be the second — and last — presidential debate on Thursday.

And so far, Mr. Trump is not doing formal debate prep.

Rather than attending a pre-debate boot camp to help him avoid a repeat of last month’s poorly-reviewed performance against Mr. Biden, the president appears likely to spend most of the week on a kind of political joy ride, flitting from rally to rally and revving up his grateful, mostly maskless crowds. He kicks off the week with two such events in Arizona, stumping up north in Prescott and then down in Tucson.

Republicans hope that Mr. Trump’s travels will excite conservative voters who might otherwise be somewhat demoralized at this point in the race, and drive them to the polls in greater numbers.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/19/us/trump-vs-biden/trump-is-racing-from-rally-to-rally-but-is-it-helping-him
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Trump is racing from rally to rally. But is it helping him? (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
He's preaching to the choir. His rallies are not expanding his base or winning him any votes. Arkansas Granny Oct 2020 #1
That's because kwolf68 Oct 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Oct 2020 #5
Probably losing some votes with all the Covid he's spreading around. tanyev Oct 2020 #13
Also, he is infecting MAGAts at these superspreader rallies. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #17
The MAGAts know the risks and choose to participate. I'll not waste any pity on them. Arkansas Granny Oct 2020 #20
Nope. Their choice. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #21
EVERY Trump event is a Biden ad. dchill Oct 2020 #3
He could care less. Wellstone ruled Oct 2020 #4
trump making NEW Biden voters with every stop, it feeds his ego and nothing else beachbumbob Oct 2020 #6
Please, no more debates bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #7
I hope there is another debate. Trump dropped 2 points (permanently) after the last one. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #18
I feel really sorry snowybirdie Oct 2020 #8
Its the steroids. Even better than Ritalin. marble falls Oct 2020 #9
Got to be.... paleotn Oct 2020 #30
no but it's killing his followers. Javaman Oct 2020 #10
that's my take too LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #26
tRump listens to gutless echo chamber RepubliCONs who tell him he won the first debate. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #11
Infecting, sickening, and killing his cult before they vote? cp Oct 2020 #12
They have just enough time to get it now and be too sick to vote LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #27
He's like a chicken w/ its head cut off, and he's racing from one fire to the next fire, SWBTATTReg Oct 2020 #14
All he's doing is generating a series of super spreader events. patphil Oct 2020 #15
His schtick is tired. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #16
Collapse coming soon? BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #19
I hope it's killing him. BKDem Oct 2020 #22
We should get so lucky. DinahMoeHum Oct 2020 #24
LOL, it's the only reason to watch that insanity-- to see if he finally strokes out LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #29
it can't be good for him and I wouldn't cry if it did LymphocyteLover Oct 2020 #28
I hope he lives long enough to die in prison Withywindle Oct 2020 #39
Whether or not it helps him, it's all he knows how to do, and his base loves it. Nitram Oct 2020 #23
He's doing it for himself, not his campaign... paleotn Oct 2020 #25
Many of his supporters may not be feeling well by election day IronLionZion Oct 2020 #31
I think these rallies serve 3 purposes: raising an army, making money, and basking in praise rainin Oct 2020 #32
it's what super spreaders do. nt Javaman Oct 2020 #33
Trump coming to Tucson, AZ surpasses ignorance. Sierra89 Oct 2020 #34
Mr. Chaos isn't going to do debate prep. BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #35
Yes, I'm looking forward to it precisely for the chaotic shit show. It's meltdown time. Stay tuned. Progressive Jones Oct 2020 #38
I hate to burst his slimy little hate bubble, but.. ananda Oct 2020 #36
My one Tucson friend detests Trump pfitz59 Oct 2020 #37
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Oct 2020 #40

Arkansas Granny

(31,532 posts)
1. He's preaching to the choir. His rallies are not expanding his base or winning him any votes.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:04 PM
Oct 2020

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
2. That's because
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:07 PM
Oct 2020

Democrats are not part of "real America". They never speak to anyone other than the fringe right. Because they consider moderates, Democrats, Liberals to be enemies of the state. They have contempt for Democrats and contempt for Democracy because oftentimes Democracy selects Democratic ideas, which they consider treasonous. We are dealing with a bunch of vipers who have eclipsed political depravity I never could have imagined in such a great nation.

Response to kwolf68 (Reply #2)

tanyev

(42,621 posts)
13. Probably losing some votes with all the Covid he's spreading around.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Also, he is infecting MAGAts at these superspreader rallies.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 02:09 PM
Oct 2020

Many of them will be too sick to vote, or caring for relatives and unable to get out and vote. So probably not a wise plan.

Arkansas Granny

(31,532 posts)
20. The MAGAts know the risks and choose to participate. I'll not waste any pity on them.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 02:30 PM
Oct 2020

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Nope. Their choice.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 03:00 PM
Oct 2020

dchill

(38,545 posts)
3. EVERY Trump event is a Biden ad.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:14 PM
Oct 2020

All he's doing now is inciting terrorism.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. He could care less.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:20 PM
Oct 2020

You and I are paying the Freight for all his so called Rallies.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. trump making NEW Biden voters with every stop, it feeds his ego and nothing else
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:22 PM
Oct 2020

bucolic_frolic

(43,308 posts)
7. Please, no more debates
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:23 PM
Oct 2020

We have nothing to gain from this. No new knowledge. Are they planning a virtual debate? Trump will just lie and throw vitriol, and some new cooked-up evidence against Biden. Total nonsense.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. I hope there is another debate. Trump dropped 2 points (permanently) after the last one.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 02:10 PM
Oct 2020

He is even crazier now; will drop another couple points.

snowybirdie

(5,239 posts)
8. I feel really sorry
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:24 PM
Oct 2020

for his Secret Service detail. He's running them ragged and exposing them to virus every day. These people have lives and families too.

marble falls

(57,254 posts)
9. Its the steroids. Even better than Ritalin.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:38 PM
Oct 2020

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
30. Got to be....
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:56 PM
Oct 2020

I don't think he can go on like this for long. He's not going to last 15 days.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
10. no but it's killing his followers.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:54 PM
Oct 2020

good bad thing. LOL

LymphocyteLover

(5,654 posts)
26. that's my take too
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:45 PM
Oct 2020

of course, he's making the pandemic much worse... it's sick and evil

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
11. tRump listens to gutless echo chamber RepubliCONs who tell him he won the first debate.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 01:00 PM
Oct 2020

They are conning the Con.

cp

(6,664 posts)
12. Infecting, sickening, and killing his cult before they vote?
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 01:02 PM
Oct 2020

Good plan.

LymphocyteLover

(5,654 posts)
27. They have just enough time to get it now and be too sick to vote
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:47 PM
Oct 2020

later rallies, they may not get sick until after they vote (unless they vote early but apparently the right loves to vote on election day)

SWBTATTReg

(22,171 posts)
14. He's like a chicken w/ its head cut off, and he's racing from one fire to the next fire,
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 01:13 PM
Oct 2020

and not doing a damn thing. Just like he's PINO, totally incompetent. Is this what we want as a leader?

Just wait, he'll going to go fruitcake before long...

patphil

(6,216 posts)
15. All he's doing is generating a series of super spreader events.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 01:53 PM
Oct 2020

His base is all he has, and the rallies haven't got any reach beyond his base.
So it's apparent the rallies don't have much to do with Trump winning.
They're more like a drug for Trump now; an energy "fix" from those who worship him.

Of course each rally brings with it a price tag in sickness and death. Few masks, no social distancing, thousands of people shouting and cheering. It's the perfect environment for the spread of Covid-19.

Ask Trump if he cares.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
16. His schtick is tired.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 01:58 PM
Oct 2020

In 2016, I said the best we could hope is that everyone would get tired of his act. If he'd been able to pivot and focus on governance instead of yuks and slander, he'd be a 2-termer.

But he can't, because he is a fatally damaged human with little actual expertise in anything but bullying.

BlueWavePsych

(2,640 posts)
19. Collapse coming soon?
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 02:21 PM
Oct 2020

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
22. I hope it's killing him.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 03:06 PM
Oct 2020

No, really.

I want him dead.

DinahMoeHum

(21,809 posts)
24. We should get so lucky.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:37 PM
Oct 2020

Maybe it will happen in the middle of a speech.

LymphocyteLover

(5,654 posts)
29. LOL, it's the only reason to watch that insanity-- to see if he finally strokes out
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:49 PM
Oct 2020

LymphocyteLover

(5,654 posts)
28. it can't be good for him and I wouldn't cry if it did
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:48 PM
Oct 2020

kill him. But I'm betting that all he is doing these days is resting, getting hopped up on drugs and doing these rallies.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
39. I hope he lives long enough to die in prison
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:58 PM
Oct 2020

after losing in a historic landslide.

I want him to watch his house of cards finally crumble beyond any hope of repair. I want him to feel the humiliation. I want him to know he's a LOSER.


Nitram

(22,890 posts)
23. Whether or not it helps him, it's all he knows how to do, and his base loves it.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:37 PM
Oct 2020

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
25. He's doing it for himself, not his campaign...
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 04:42 PM
Oct 2020

and he probably doesn't consciously realize that. He's not really cut out for politics in a democracy. Doesn't have a clue how it works. Probably doesn't care. This is just to feed his own weird need for affirmation. His people know he's cooked, even if he doesn't.

IronLionZion

(45,535 posts)
31. Many of his supporters may not be feeling well by election day
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 05:01 PM
Oct 2020

rainin

(3,011 posts)
32. I think these rallies serve 3 purposes: raising an army, making money, and basking in praise
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 05:02 PM
Oct 2020

He's likely not winning any voters. People who go to his rallies already worship him. He could be animating militia types to make sure they're 'standing by' for further orders. And rallies are very effective for motivating supporters. Normally, the candidate is calling for their most ardent supporters to continue working hard on behalf of the campaign. Trump may not care about the campaign anymore - if he ever did

The other obvious benefit to him is I think he launders money through campaign events. There are so many ways to move money from donors into his many companies with an event like this. He has taken the concept of OPM (Other People's Money) to a new level. He's enriching himself.

The last thought needs no explanation. He feeds on attention.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
33. it's what super spreaders do. nt
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 05:05 PM
Oct 2020

Sierra89

(127 posts)
34. Trump coming to Tucson, AZ surpasses ignorance.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 05:13 PM
Oct 2020

Pima County and Santa Cruz County always vote Blue. Check previous voting maps/years. Links were up in articles and social media to request tickets, specifically to not show up. He may have a pack of his usual Ya-hoos/dinks that follow him to rallies. There was even a call in to The Stephanie Miller Show this morning saying there have been ads for people to show up and get paid $250 for the day. (Allegedly, not something I fact-checked). We have been early voting here since Oct. 7th, and the numbers are bigger than in any previous year.

Tucson is full of familes who are Spanish/Basque/Mexican/Chinese/African-American/Irish/Indigenous descendants of the pioneer families. The Tohono O' odham have been here since time immemorial.Their ancestral burial land has been blown up to build the border wall. Their ancient watering spring is being emptied to use on the same construction. Our families all learned to live/work together a very long time ago. We shared cultures and depended on one another. If you did not know a family personally, you knew OF them. That's what people who are strangers here, (and do not try to get to know) will never understand. To this day we respect, have love, and are in it for each other. We welcome newcomers who do the same.Whatever attendance you do see at trump's Tucson rally, remember that it is not likely to be a direct reflection of the multi-cultural population here. Right now we are either at work/otherwise busy, or at home avoiding being out while an idiot and his followers are spreading a pandemic. Despite our Mayor providing masks and having attendee's temperatures checked at the door, early news previews show almost everyone maskless.

Tell me why trump thinks coming here to have a super spreader is such a good idea.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
35. Mr. Chaos isn't going to do debate prep.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 05:17 PM
Oct 2020

He’s going to attack VP Biden with Russian disinformation for 90 minutes. It will be a shit show start to finish.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
38. Yes, I'm looking forward to it precisely for the chaotic shit show. It's meltdown time. Stay tuned.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:54 PM
Oct 2020

ananda

(28,877 posts)
36. I hate to burst his slimy little hate bubble, but..
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:00 PM
Oct 2020

.. there are very few undecided voters right now.

Poor baby...

pfitz59

(10,391 posts)
37. My one Tucson friend detests Trump
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:41 PM
Oct 2020

She can't wait to see him gone.

Omaha Steve

(99,737 posts)
40. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 08:10 PM
Oct 2020

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