Biden eyes GOP candidates for Cabinet slots
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Source: Politico
Joe Bidens transition team is vetting a handful of Republicans for potential Cabinet positions despite doubts it will win him new support from the right and the risk it will enrage the left.
Reaching across the aisle to pick senior members of his administration could shore up Biden's credentials as a unity candidate, a message he's made a cornerstone of his campaign. Past presidents including George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama have all done the same. But that tradition died with President Donald Trump, and liberal Democrats are already warning that a Republican pick, even a moderate one, could sow distrust within the party before Biden even takes office.
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That person and another official familiar with the transition deliberations confirmed to POLITICO that Biden staffers are analyzing some Republicans backgrounds and resumes as they compile shortlists of candidates for high-profile Cabinet positions. The goal is to have some GOP options among the finalists that Biden would choose from after the election.
Among the names being floated for possible Biden Cabinet posts are Meg Whitman, the CEO of Quibi and former CEO of eBay, and former Ohio Gov. John Kasich, both of whom spoke at Augusts Democratic National Convention. Massachusetts GOP Gov. Charlie Baker and former Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) have also been mentioned, as has former Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Penn.), who resigned from Congress in 2018 and became a lobbyist.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/biden-transition-republican-cabinet-429972
no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)ArizonaLib
(1,242 posts)Republicans heads will be exploding until mid terms. They will be more embarrassed than when Obama was elected and they resorted to calling themselves independents and tea baggers.
Remember how it was only months after Obama was inaugurated that those idiots were shown on cable news camping across the Potomac with their triangle hats and AR-15's? Those idiots are about too stupid to vote.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)the others are hated by the current repubs. So there's that.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)but, I would think we would have plenty of qualified Democrats.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)So you have to expect some attempts at bridge building.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)This will infuriate the leftwing of the party, and ensure that any power Dems have will be wiped out in 2022.
After working in the Obama admin, Biden should know what happens when you kowtow to Republicans.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)That easy to push you away?
That left wing has been a bit of a sore loser. Already threatening? Is this going to happen every time Joe makes a move the left wing doesnt approve.
Still fighting the establishment Democrats?
Or is this just your opinion?
So dont kowtow to one group and kowtow to the other?
Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)Biden is the candidate vastly superior to fuckface, but I definitely dont support him shooting himself, and us, in the foot so he can play nice with scorpions.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)Being bipartisan pre-Gingrich? Fine. Now? Not fine.
Obama tried to be reasonable with republicans. That turned out to be a bad idea because they are utterly unscrupulous and do ALL THINGS in bad faith. Reject Garland, and ram through Barrett? GTFOH.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)I know Joes intent was to unite. Not keep up old grievances. Especially if we retake the Senate as well.
Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)ancianita
(36,023 posts)to see what Obama refused to see or admit after Senate Republicans became the majority.
At this point, being realistic in order to get on with using our party's power of two branches in no way makes any Democrat an "anti-establishment" Democrat.
Unity doesn't have to end once we win. We're not going to default to old school in-party labelling once we win. We've got too damn much work to do to re-establish good governance by passing key structural changes through Congress.
Biden knows that it takes two parties to make bipartisanship work. But since there hasn't been any -- not for lack of trying on the Democrats' part -- this time, no deal cutting with all its win-lose drama. Just honest work with or without Republican support. Republicans killed bipartisanship after 2018, and was on its ("Obama will be a one-term president" ) deathbed before that.
Bipartisanship shouldn't return until structural changes are made through a Democratic majority Senate. Republicans either have to reach across the aisle FIRST, and get in on our legislation, or they'll just have to have to watch how good governing is done, since they haven't done a lick of it.
But they won't watch. They'll fire up their scream machine.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)hotshot in Kansas who had enough. Placing litmus test for who can be on "our side" makes us NO FUCKING BETTER that the other side
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)ancianita
(36,023 posts)Many here know that this isn't about fighting the primary. It's about hitting the ground running without dragging whining, spiteful, preachy, sneaky, racist, sexist Republicans along into the 21st Century.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)But it seriously doesnt matter what my opinion is. At all.
The bipartisanship was in Joes agenda from 2018 or before.
Yes Obama tried it and it did t work. But this is Joe Biden. He isnt Obama and Joe is not inheriting the same Congressional make-up. Especially if this election fundamentally changes the Senate.
Joe won the primary because of this type of policy. Not in spite of it.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)FYI we are in alliance with SOME disaffected, trump hating, centrist Repubs.
You dont have to like someone or be friends to work in coalition with them.
At some point in life most people come to see things a little bit more in shades of gray rather than stark either-or dualities.
Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)I thought it was perfectly clear what republicans are. If a republican renounces their party and becomes independent or Democratic, we can talk. Not after all this bullshit they put us through. Obama tried the shades of gray - how did that work out? They doubled and tripled down on their treachery.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)far RW militia wanna bes are driven back into the fringes where they belong.
Lets get through the election first shall we ?
This is not 12 yrs ago. Different time, different dynamic entirely Wake up!
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vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)enough qualified democrats to fill his cabinet positions.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)ancianita
(36,023 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)What ever it is Im supporting Joe.
Not trying to out-republican Republicans.
Not still fighting the primary.
Always took his word that he would work both aisles.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)just supporting Joe leads you to challenge others who've joined this party as a unity party.
This is a youth-filled party that has to first, before anything else, use its power to restructure the two branches so that good governing by rule of law is not bogged down by the old Bush Republican playbook that drags us back to accepting their sudden "high road" double standards for us.
THIS time, after all they've done to destroy bipartisanship, we've got to challenge THEM to build bridges and reach across the aisle. Get their own heads clear.
We will get nowhere by setting ourselves up for the disappointments and betrayals of THEIR brand of "my way or the highway" bipartisanship.
Lake, we've got too damn much to have to unfuck to let Republicans make it all about THEM and their 3rd grade "because we can" politics.
Joe has to save his bridge building for later. Let them start the bridge building, not us.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)are forming bridges already. There will be more that will mea culpa after this.
Joes going to give them chances. Thats just what it is. I dont thinking flaming now is anywhere near what we should be doing.
Because Joe was nominated for these types of plans.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)a) only ONE of them has become a Democrat, b) no one here is "flaming," c)no one here is an anti-establishment Dem.
If we hadn't been so clear in articulating Democratic Party values and democratic national values in general, the three people you mention wouldn't have had anywhere to go. Only one is a recent Democrat, and they're criticizing the worst person in the world.
They haven't done anything heroic. They just agree with us. It's not just Joe giving them chances, we all have. They know a willing audience, and we should let them know that we know they haven't done much to change other Republicans at all.
And that's all we should be -- a willing audience. We should ask them, "what can you do FOR the American people, that's not just for saving your party's credibility. What are you doing to get your fellow Republicans to reach across the aisle in the next election cycle?"
You and I know they haven't really offered much.
And I don't think Joe was voted for for the reasons you think he was.
He was voted for because he was trusted to change.
He sold critics because his plans are due to his own change as a Democrat to represent the new Democrats -- progressives whose agenda has become the party platform -- who want mistakes fixed part, and not just the building back better part.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Appreciate the discussion but I think we have hit the end.
I have know idea what you know or dont know.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)We're not disagreeing about much, anyway, except about how well he'll handle the Republican Party beyond Trump, and how they'll try to handle him. This is probably a Politico provocation, anyway.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Which you also are advocating. So lets see...
One "group" is a party who foments false narratives about the Democratic party, stoked the Tea Party into existence. Spread fake conspiracy theories about the Clintons and Obama for decades. Support the hypocrisy and duplicity of stealing SCOTUS seats. Comey is one example. Someone who felt too much party loyalty to not throw a last dagger into the last election, just to make sure he crossed all his tees as far as he could so as not to upset his fellow Rs. etc etc etc etc etc etc.
The other "group" makes up a large portion of the Democratic party. Its the group that wants things like a $15 minimum wage, a truly universal medicare system. The "group" that was at the front of the line fighting for things like LGBtQ rights, including marriage. Pot legalization. Social justice reform. Their big crime is wanting it sooner rather than later.
Hmmm. Which group should Biden "kowtow" to.
Yeah, might as well kowtow to the first one. Makes no difference right?
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Not my decision or my agenda. Its Joes.
It hasnt been a secret. However I dont mind that he is considering a Republicans.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)But it infuriates me that we're already planning to piss away our Congressional majorities like we did after 2008.
murdock744
(55 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,582 posts)murdock744
(55 posts)"Look forward not backward." remember?
Fiendish Thingy
(15,582 posts)Aristus
(66,316 posts)And doomed African-Americans in the South to kidnapping, firebombing, torture, and murder for over a century.
Sometimes you have to look back to make sure that shit doesn't happen again...
KPN
(15,642 posts)NorthOf270
(290 posts)Look, everyone knows she's not getting a job. But saying someone's a war criminal who was never charged is a bad look on US. And is why so many of us rhetorically see the problem that for whatever reason WE'RE the ones who never go for the throat and let these people off the hook and later sometimes reward them.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)unblock
(52,196 posts)This isn't going to do a damn thing to tone down republicans' hyper-partisan rhetoric and attacks. Biden doesn't need any gestures like this to shoe he's reasonable.
Fact-based people know he is, and republicans will deny reality and they'll completely dismiss the inclusion of a republican or two in the cabinet.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)But this is likely just shit-stirring by Politico.
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)2naSalit
(86,534 posts)I think that ultimately there will not be any in the Cabinet when January comes around. Could be a favorable move pre-election day.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)ancianita
(36,023 posts)The party absolutely cannot afford to seem to not know or care about the straight line of anti-bipartisanship it has suffered from the days of Paul Weyrich -- Mr. ""I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of the people. They never have been .... our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down" -- all the way up to Trump.
The party isn't purist, and yet the party must establish itself as unified in partisan purpose, with no wiggle room for Republicans who report back to their party. No.
Floating names is one thing. Letting that get out is not cool.
bamagal62
(3,255 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,582 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Ye may look, but ye may not find...
Biden should make the effort. Show a willingness. Then slam the door, 'cause there ain't none.
Sodom and Gomorrah was actually a metaphor about welcoming and accepting strangers. Sadly, it got twisted beyond recognition. Because of a sick, warped "agenda".
mysteryowl
(7,376 posts)He will lose votes with this.
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)Kanye?
Joe Biden should not lose one vote for promising to reunite the country. If someone rips up their yard sign because Joe Biden moves to work with both sides, they won't be happy with any democrat. That includes the independent from Vermont.
mysteryowl
(7,376 posts)I just happen to know progressives that will vote 3rd party and actions like this from Biden, help affirm their 3rd party vote. We have a few 3rd party options in my state, and unfortunately, Kanye is one of them. I think Kanye is on the ballot to pull votes away from Biden, we could lose our state to trump because of it.
I know DUers are mostly conservative democrats, and the progressives don't get to have a voice here. Unfortunately. I have invited progressive friends to DU and after they came for awhile, they stopped because it is too conservative for them. The conservatives on the site will jump on this comment and tear it apart, just watch.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)because they're popular GOP governors in blue states
elleng
(130,865 posts)and I wonder what attributes he would provide. (He's MY governor now, and I endorse Joe B's search for a cabinet among repugs and/or independents, but I don't see what hogan gets us in the cabinet.)
lark
(23,091 posts)Don't let the rich repugs being considered stop the full throttle change we need to survive, they are not our friends and will hurt us in the long run if employed by Biden.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)This is really really bad news. I know a lot of young people who are ready to hold their noses and vote for Biden and when they see this they will go ballistic! This is just plain stupid. Reaching across the aisle? How did that work out for us last time?
AnnaLee
(1,035 posts)As an ex-federal employee, I would be very upset if he put anyone other than supportive, union friendly, diversity sensitive heads to any of the agencies. These agencies need fixing and some fixes are hard. (How do you reverse a transfer of a DC based unit to the Midwest? How do you manage around political hires in previously high skilled positions? etc.)
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)Transportation? Agriculture? Homeland Security? Fine, depending on who it would be. But Treasury, Health, SOS - no way.
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Agriculture wld be OK. I get the feeling Kasich & Whitman did public support stumps for Biden & its now a quid pro quo. BUT in the least they are decent Republicans. If it helps Biden maintain the bipartisan image and they won't hurt him it's all good.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Keep shoveling that shit, Politico.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)If this story moves a few Republicans over to Biden before the election, sure, why not? Eyeing =/= nominating.
SKKY
(11,803 posts)...but yea, this is a deft political move.
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)They really are a pack of wet, ripped trashbags.
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)so Andy Beshear can appoint Amy McGrath to that senate seat.
Same with any other GOP Senators in states with Dem governors.
melman
(7,681 posts)My Pet Orangutan
(9,238 posts)Nutmeg Whitman who drove HP into the ditch?
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)who drove HP into the ditch.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)hammered the nails into HP's coffin. Some elements of the once vaulted HP is still sorta, kinda operating today
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)And governor of somewhere. I think that's all she's known for.
hahaha
Mr.Bill
(24,280 posts)She ran for Governor in California against Jerry Brown, which was a suicide mission.
elleng
(130,865 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)But I trust Joe. Maybe its optics the week before an election.
But I dont want to be a prisoner of the right or left. If far left threatens Joe everytime he makes a big decision then we
Fight about the Democratic Establishment and that war was fought already.
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)... Im good with that. If Fauci is a Republican, I really dont care as long as hes THE expert.
Doing it for political peacekeeping? Wont work and is pointless.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)but the people mentioned above are not acceptable, even if they endorsed Biden.
If I wanted republicons in an administration, I'd be voting for a republicon. This idea needs to be squashed. Promptly.
RobertDevereaux
(1,856 posts)Dr. Jack
(675 posts)Kasich is reportedly the front runner for some kind of cabinet position. Fine, whatever, he's tolerable. Throw the conservatives who backed Biden a bone. I think they have earned a reward for their good behaviour but keep it to a minimum
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)I dont understand why this is so shocking to anyone.
Griefbird
(96 posts)It reminds me of all the times Democrats tried to reach across the aisle by watering down their proposals before they even brought them to the floor for discussion. By negotiating with ourselves to a middle position first, we lost the fight before it began. "Moderate" Republicans only look moderate because bomb throwing right wing extremists now pass for right of center. In fact, today's moderate Democrats are to the right of the last reasonable Republican president, who left office in 1961. This is not to disparage them; it just illustrates how far to the right the overton window has moved since then. Joe's first job is to keep the Democratic Party united.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Whether its wrong in anyones opinion or not, this has always been this candidates plan.
It the package. I think it would be fine to protest his choices once made. But this, a week before the election, is jumping the gun and plays into Republican hands.
George II
(67,782 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)lostnfound
(16,173 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)SamKnause
(13,091 posts)Marthe48
(16,935 posts)please look past what he says and LOOK at what he does!
I live in Ohio: look at his record on public education, unions, pro-life laws. He is not someone who would help unite the country. He is a snake. Honestly.
I'm not crazy about any r's to be honest. In this current climate, it is going to be hard to find any r that doesn't have crimes to hide or apologize for. Where were r's when kids were taken from their families, put in cages, or adopted or who knows, because there are no records? Where are the r's on gun control, so American citizens aren't gunned down whenever a gun maniac had a mad? Where were the r's when Covid-19 hit? Where were the r's when impeached traitor destroyed our security, our economy and our reputation? These are not only far left concerns. The glaring omissions of human decency and responsible governing are things that should concern all of us.
When reagan reapproached russia in the 90's, and after a lifetime of despising and fearing russians, the American public was supposed to forgive and forget, I found that really hard to do. It is the same for r's in general, and in some cases r's in particular. When Clinton, bush and Obama included the r's, it was different, because the r party members was still pulling the wool over our eyes.
I can't believe that anyone would consider Flake for anything. He was a do nothing Senator who's only attribute was a 1000 watt smile -- nothing more. He'd be hard pressed to get re-elected in Arizona for dog catcher.
Marthe48
(16,935 posts)However, whatever is the best for our country. Just keep an eye the the cash register and anything you hold dear.
Whoever is slected, I hope has to take a test on what the U.S. Constitution represents.
Welcome to D.U.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)I don't care how many speeches he contributes to Dem conventions. His actions show he opposes every single thing Biden says he stands for.
Marthe48
(16,935 posts)n/t
Indykatie
(3,695 posts)Joe has said he is the POTUS for all Americans. No doubt it will piss off the "left" but it will probably piss off the "right' even more. It is what it is.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)He said hed be bipartisan from day one.
Not my policy, not your policy. Joes.
Definitely never a scorched earth agenda.
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)He can further his campaign promise to reunite the country. Doesn't mean he has to find a job for Trump bootlickers, climate change deniers, or right wing whack-a-doos.
I, for one, would be grateful.
TheFarseer
(9,321 posts)People like Jeff Flake and Ben Sasse are NOT on our side. They stand for very little I want us to be fighting for policy wise.
andym
(5,443 posts)to appeal to the Right. He was his longest-serving cabinet member (Interior) and made major contributions to the New Deal.
chowder66
(9,067 posts)like...that is if they flout the rules or break norms.
abakan
(1,819 posts)Don't embrace them, the republicans are vipers that will disrupt and destroy. They are not to be trusted with anything.
This idea is just a road back to the hell we are trying to get out of. Assign the repubs and their party to the trash heap where
they belong and never embrace them.
This has been my main objection to Biden, not enough to keep me from voting for him but a fear he will legitimize them and instead
of being pariahs they will once again be allowed to influence policy.
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)....the Caucus Room Conspiracy. Ol Mitch just picked up that olive branch and.....
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Maven
(10,533 posts)Ignore.
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,280 posts)after the impeachment should not be given the time of day. History needs to show that that vote was political suicide for them, and we need to say it.
Retrograde
(10,133 posts)When he was in the Senate Flake tried hard to live up to his name. Whitman spent two years and who knows how much $$$$ running for governor: people were sick of her constant commercials. She was handily trounced by Jerry Brown. Then she went on to further drive the ruins of H-P into the ground. Just no way should she be let near the federal government.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)NUFF said...
stillcool
(32,626 posts)If we get past the near future, the only politics in my orbit will be local/state...where people are more accepted as people.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,582 posts)wcast
(595 posts)So we want to pretend that the same Republicans who shafted us during Obamas two terms are in our corner now? According to some responses to this OP pushing progressives away is also a good thing. We are Democrats and need to promote Democratic solutions. We will never get Republican support, just continue a push to the right that will lose us support.
Jose Garcia
(2,593 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)If it's for real, that's not fine.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Politico reports said shit.
Never fucking mind...
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Their headlines... ugh, I can't stand them.
CR4200
(15 posts)I remember when Bill Clinton was elected. He went in and CLEANED HOUSE. He replaced everyone and the republicans were shocked. Bill got a lot done without having to deal with Republicans who did not really support him.
Obama made the mistake of not cleaning house, by trying to unite everyone. I was shocked when all he did was rearrange the chairs on the deck, so to speak. This is one reason Obama had problems with getting anything done.
I tell people all the time, that I think Obama made a pretty good moderate Republican. Just my thoughts....
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mcar
(42,301 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... I also knew it was probably Politico. I guessed wrong about the byline, however. (I had a 50/50 chance.)
Mickju
(1,800 posts)theaocp
(4,236 posts)Fuck no.
smb
(3,471 posts)EndlessWire
(6,510 posts)I want the traitorous GOP to disappear from the face of the earth. If there were any trustworthy GOP politicians, they would have quit supporting Trump and become Democrats.
Remember that impeachment effort we had? Are all of the new "unity" participants from the House, or do we have them to thank for all the pain and misery we have suffered because of their party loyalty? Notice I didn't say "country" loyalty. They didn't even publish a platform. Their "platform" was whatever Trump said. An effing dictator.
We have more than enough smart, trustworthy Dems to pick from without putting any Repubs in positions. Not just for "unity." Why put them there? On the Cabinet? For G-d's sake, just NO.
There will be strife and unhappiness if we see a traitorous GOP face on the Cabinet. What will they have done to deserve that? I'm traumatized enough after 4 years of asshole McConnell, Graham, Nunes, etc. etc. etc. and The Orange Turd himself.
Ask yourself why they supported Trump, and why should they get a pass on that?? They show a decided lack of judgement, and as such they are not smart enough for our new Joe government.
JudyM
(29,226 posts)Speculative back-room scuttlebut isnt INONI.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)in positions of power.
I have been under the impression that unity meant representing the democratic/liberal coalition.
If we sweep both houses of Congress and the presidency, the people will have spoken and they are looking for democratic leadership. Elevating republicans satisfies no one.
tormadjax
(164 posts)tman
(983 posts)Disgusting betrayal if true.
Dispiriting for sure.
Yeehah
(4,585 posts)Republicans have done every scheming, rotten thing they could do to obtain greater power and undermine Democrats. Republicans do not want to share power in a democratic system. They have shown they seek total power and will not work in cooperation with Democrats. I hope this is just happy talk electioneering.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)applegrove
(118,617 posts)Alert: speculation
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