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Wed Oct 21, 2020, 06:57 PM

Iran trying to meddle in U.S. election, Russia has obtained American voter info, officials say

Source: CNBC

"Iran is taking steps to interfere in the U.S. presidential election, and Russia has obtained American voter information, national security officials announced Wednesday night.
Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe Iran has been sending “spoof emails designed to intimdate voters, incite unrest and damage President” Donald Trump."


Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/21/fbi-to-make-an-announcement-on-a-major-election-security-issue.html

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Reply Iran trying to meddle in U.S. election, Russia has obtained American voter info, officials say (Original post)
NoRoadUntravelled Oct 21 OP
ResistantAmerican17 Oct 21 #1
NoRoadUntravelled Oct 21 #3
Dr. Jack Oct 21 #5
NoRoadUntravelled Oct 21 #9
dhill926 Oct 21 #12
NoRoadUntravelled Oct 21 #14
dhill926 Oct 21 #15
ResistantAmerican17 Oct 21 #7
NoRoadUntravelled Oct 21 #10
ResistantAmerican17 Oct 21 #17
NoRoadUntravelled Oct 21 #2
rockfordfile Oct 21 #8
Dr. Jack Oct 21 #4
NoRoadUntravelled Oct 21 #6
BlueIdaho Oct 21 #19
Sapient Donkey Oct 22 #23
ouija Oct 21 #11
Aussie105 Oct 21 #13
Hotler Oct 21 #16
BlueIdaho Oct 21 #18
yaesu Oct 21 #20
TeamPooka Oct 22 #21
Sapient Donkey Oct 22 #22

Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 06:58 PM

1. Another hack lying for drumph. How quickly can you fuck off, Ratcliffe?

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Response to ResistantAmerican17 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:00 PM

3. This will be used by Trump to declare the election a fraud.

He knows he's going to lose.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:08 PM

5. Well....

...didn't seem that way to me. It seems something forced their hand and Ratcliffe was trying to spin it a bit. But the overall message, especially from Wray is that the election will be safe and secure and don't let anyone intimidate you or let you believe there is massive fraud. It didn't sound like anything that was meant to help Trump to me beyond some minor commentary from Ratcliffe.

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Response to Dr. Jack (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:35 PM

9. My point is only that Trump is an opportunist. He knows he's going to lose.

Thus, evidence of Iranian and Russian interference is the perfect opportunity for him to say the election was rigged due to foreign interference and then to refuse to concede.
My intention is not to say the information presented is faulty. Simply that Trump will attempt to use it as an excuse for his loss.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:48 PM

12. he can refuse to concede all he wants...

doesn't really matter.

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:52 PM

14. My concern isn't what he can do so much as what he can get his die hard red hat wearing,

Confederate flag waving, AK47 carrying cultists to do.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:53 PM

15. that is true....could be a tense night...

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:25 PM

7. I agree he will try... but I think the margin is going to be too much even for him

to bs his way through... call me optimistic.

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Response to ResistantAmerican17 (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:37 PM

10. I'll hang on to that thought. It's a good one.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:08 PM

17. FWIW, nobody has EVER accused me of being a "rose colored glasses"

type. I have been skeptical for the duration and sssumed the puke would squeak back in. I just believe drumph has choked himself to death, figuratively.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 06:58 PM

2. Link is to live feed official announcement. They're saying it's to damage Trump.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:30 PM

8. That's because it's lies.

All of those "emails" were sent to Democrats.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:03 PM

4. The only thing keeping me from calling bullshit is Wray being present

I guess we will see how things play out but Wray is far, far more trustworthy than Ratcliffe. As long as he says everything here is on the up and up, I'll at least give him the benefit of the doubt. He's not a trump loyalist and by all accounts he's honest and apolitical. Not really the type that would run interference for Trump. Very odd but I want to see more info before I rush to judgment about whatever that press conference was about.

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Response to Dr. Jack (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:15 PM

6. I don't doubt the veracity of the statement.We've all seen how Russia works and Iranian

interference in the elections has been discussed for some time now.
It just seems that this is perfect timing for an official announcement. Trump is going to lose and his excuse will be foreign interference, the same foreign interference that he denied existed in 2016 when he won will be what he blames for his loss.

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Response to Dr. Jack (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:06 PM

19. Wray's no -speaking role adds zero credibility the RatMan's non-update.

He was nothing more than stage prop. Something he’s gotten very good at.

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Response to Dr. Jack (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:50 AM

23. The fact it wasn't Wray doing the talking makes it suspect to me

I have little doubt that Iranians, Russia, and even China are trying to mess with stuff. There is plenty of evidence to support that fact. But as many of the former intelligence higher ups warned, this DNI politicalized it in the way he worded it.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:38 PM

11. Sounds like a good reason to nuke Iran

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Response to ouija (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:52 PM

13. Now, now, Calm Down!

No clue at to yet who is behind these emails - last reference was that they were supposedly from QAnon - but the actual source wasn't revealed by the FBI. Could be government agencies, could be some bored hackers.

And don't forget that people in Iran and Russia are subject to their own government's propaganda. What teenage Russian/Iranian hacker wouldn't want to be seen as a 'hero' because they attacked the enemy, the USA?

So keep those nukes sleeping in their silos, ok?

The FBI have yet to reveal if these emails were specifically aimed at registered Democratic party voters, or just anybody.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:04 PM

16. This lays the ground work for when he crys that election is bogus due to

Iran and Russia. This will be easier for him than blaming mail in voting. Whether we win by a land slide or just win, he will take it to the courts.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:04 PM

18. Trump lackey election update wanders from preposterous to bizarre.

Not to mention totally ignoring any specifics about Russian meddling. I think we can chalk this up to an angry text from the boss saying “For gods sake Do Something!!!”

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:12 PM

20. and, they may be able to change registration info according to maddow, causing a mess

for victims when they try to vote.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:33 AM

21. If you can't/won't take reporters questions it's not a real story.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:46 AM

22. When I saw it was him giving the conference, I knew there would be some nonsense

It was good until he got to the sentence "in order to harm President Trump's campaign" or something along those lines. It then became clear why he was up there flapping his mouth.

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