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NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 07:57 PM Oct 2020

Iran trying to meddle in U.S. election, Russia has obtained American voter info, officials say

Source: CNBC

"Iran is taking steps to interfere in the U.S. presidential election, and Russia has obtained American voter information, national security officials announced Wednesday night.
Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe Iran has been sending “spoof emails designed to intimdate voters, incite unrest and damage President” Donald Trump."


Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/21/fbi-to-make-an-announcement-on-a-major-election-security-issue.html

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Iran trying to meddle in U.S. election, Russia has obtained American voter info, officials say (Original Post) NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 OP
Another hack lying for drumph. How quickly can you fuck off, Ratcliffe? ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #1
This will be used by Trump to declare the election a fraud. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #3
Well.... Dr. Jack Oct 2020 #5
My point is only that Trump is an opportunist. He knows he's going to lose. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #9
he can refuse to concede all he wants... dhill926 Oct 2020 #12
My concern isn't what he can do so much as what he can get his die hard red hat wearing, NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #14
that is true....could be a tense night... dhill926 Oct 2020 #15
I agree he will try... but I think the margin is going to be too much even for him ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #7
I'll hang on to that thought. It's a good one. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #10
FWIW, nobody has EVER accused me of being a "rose colored glasses" ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #17
Link is to live feed official announcement. They're saying it's to damage Trump. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #2
That's because it's lies. rockfordfile Oct 2020 #8
The only thing keeping me from calling bullshit is Wray being present Dr. Jack Oct 2020 #4
I don't doubt the veracity of the statement.We've all seen how Russia works and Iranian NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #6
Wray's no -speaking role adds zero credibility the RatMan's non-update. BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #19
The fact it wasn't Wray doing the talking makes it suspect to me Sapient Donkey Oct 2020 #23
Sounds like a good reason to nuke Iran ouija Oct 2020 #11
Now, now, Calm Down! Aussie105 Oct 2020 #13
This lays the ground work for when he crys that election is bogus due to Hotler Oct 2020 #16
Trump lackey election update wanders from preposterous to bizarre. BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #18
and, they may be able to change registration info according to maddow, causing a mess yaesu Oct 2020 #20
If you can't/won't take reporters questions it's not a real story. TeamPooka Oct 2020 #21
When I saw it was him giving the conference, I knew there would be some nonsense Sapient Donkey Oct 2020 #22

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
5. Well....
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:08 PM
Oct 2020

...didn't seem that way to me. It seems something forced their hand and Ratcliffe was trying to spin it a bit. But the overall message, especially from Wray is that the election will be safe and secure and don't let anyone intimidate you or let you believe there is massive fraud. It didn't sound like anything that was meant to help Trump to me beyond some minor commentary from Ratcliffe.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
9. My point is only that Trump is an opportunist. He knows he's going to lose.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:35 PM
Oct 2020

Thus, evidence of Iranian and Russian interference is the perfect opportunity for him to say the election was rigged due to foreign interference and then to refuse to concede.
My intention is not to say the information presented is faulty. Simply that Trump will attempt to use it as an excuse for his loss.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
14. My concern isn't what he can do so much as what he can get his die hard red hat wearing,
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:52 PM
Oct 2020

Confederate flag waving, AK47 carrying cultists to do.

ResistantAmerican17

(3,796 posts)
7. I agree he will try... but I think the margin is going to be too much even for him
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:25 PM
Oct 2020

to bs his way through... call me optimistic.

ResistantAmerican17

(3,796 posts)
17. FWIW, nobody has EVER accused me of being a "rose colored glasses"
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 09:08 PM
Oct 2020

type. I have been skeptical for the duration and sssumed the puke would squeak back in. I just believe drumph has choked himself to death, figuratively.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
4. The only thing keeping me from calling bullshit is Wray being present
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:03 PM
Oct 2020

I guess we will see how things play out but Wray is far, far more trustworthy than Ratcliffe. As long as he says everything here is on the up and up, I'll at least give him the benefit of the doubt. He's not a trump loyalist and by all accounts he's honest and apolitical. Not really the type that would run interference for Trump. Very odd but I want to see more info before I rush to judgment about whatever that press conference was about.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
6. I don't doubt the veracity of the statement.We've all seen how Russia works and Iranian
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:15 PM
Oct 2020

interference in the elections has been discussed for some time now.
It just seems that this is perfect timing for an official announcement. Trump is going to lose and his excuse will be foreign interference, the same foreign interference that he denied existed in 2016 when he won will be what he blames for his loss.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
19. Wray's no -speaking role adds zero credibility the RatMan's non-update.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:06 PM
Oct 2020

He was nothing more than stage prop. Something he’s gotten very good at.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
23. The fact it wasn't Wray doing the talking makes it suspect to me
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:50 AM
Oct 2020

I have little doubt that Iranians, Russia, and even China are trying to mess with stuff. There is plenty of evidence to support that fact. But as many of the former intelligence higher ups warned, this DNI politicalized it in the way he worded it.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
13. Now, now, Calm Down!
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 08:52 PM
Oct 2020

No clue at to yet who is behind these emails - last reference was that they were supposedly from QAnon - but the actual source wasn't revealed by the FBI. Could be government agencies, could be some bored hackers.

And don't forget that people in Iran and Russia are subject to their own government's propaganda. What teenage Russian/Iranian hacker wouldn't want to be seen as a 'hero' because they attacked the enemy, the USA?

So keep those nukes sleeping in their silos, ok?

The FBI have yet to reveal if these emails were specifically aimed at registered Democratic party voters, or just anybody.

Hotler

(11,396 posts)
16. This lays the ground work for when he crys that election is bogus due to
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 09:04 PM
Oct 2020

Iran and Russia. This will be easier for him than blaming mail in voting. Whether we win by a land slide or just win, he will take it to the courts.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
18. Trump lackey election update wanders from preposterous to bizarre.
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:04 PM
Oct 2020

Not to mention totally ignoring any specifics about Russian meddling. I think we can chalk this up to an angry text from the boss saying “For gods sake Do Something!!!”

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
20. and, they may be able to change registration info according to maddow, causing a mess
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:12 PM
Oct 2020

for victims when they try to vote.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
22. When I saw it was him giving the conference, I knew there would be some nonsense
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:46 AM
Oct 2020

It was good until he got to the sentence "in order to harm President Trump's campaign" or something along those lines. It then became clear why he was up there flapping his mouth.

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