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TomCADem

(17,380 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:00 PM Oct 2020

Florida rolling out new review process for deaths attributed to COVID-19

Source: WESH

Surgeon General Scott Rivkees, who serves as the department’s secretary, said the state took a deeper look at 95 COVID-19 deaths. In 16 cases, it found more than a two-month time frame between when people tested positive for COVID-19 and the actual deaths. Also, another 11 deaths were more than 30 days old when they were reported to the state, according to the health department.

"During a pandemic, the public must be able to rely on accurate public health data to make informed decisions. To ensure the accuracy of COVID-19 related deaths, the department will be performing additional reviews of all deaths.” Rivkees said in a prepared statement. “Timely and accurate data remains a top priority of the Department of Health.”

The announcement came less than two weeks before the Nov. 3 general election in which COVID-19 has become the overarching issue for voters in Florida and across the nation.

It also came as the numbers of COVID-19 cases in the state increase and as dozens of deaths are reported each day.

Read more: https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-covid-19-death-reports-further-review/34442558

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machoneman

(3,991 posts)
1. Gee, yah think this is still another of DeSatan's tricks to minimize FL's Covid-19 death rate?
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:03 PM
Oct 2020

Wanna' bet?

StClone

(11,682 posts)
2. What a worthless exercise
Wed Oct 21, 2020, 11:18 PM
Oct 2020

Too bad some fall into this line of thinking of questioning the statistical science resulting the actual deaths count. Cons waste time, tax money and lives playing games like this to stay in power.

Who is too un-intuitive to see Covid's mortality!? Well then, if we take the typical number of death expected in a certain period (relying on past statistics) and subtract that from death totals during a covid related period the difference is the "Likely Covid caused increase of deaths." Unless other effectual factors are not found that result is likely a good indicator of the deaths caused by the virus. Cons turn red-faced when you make this simple factually solid assertion.

lapfog_1

(29,189 posts)
4. 300,000 Covid related deaths in the USA
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:28 AM
Oct 2020

using the more accurate statistical average.

In fact, due to the lock down and more people WFH, that number is likely low. Why? Because of fewer deaths related to other contagious illnesses reduced by people social distancing and wearing masks.

TomCADem

(17,380 posts)
3. Unless There Are No Other Preexisting Conditions, It Is Not Covid
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:12 AM
Oct 2020

This goes along with the Trump talking point that all these deaths are not due to Covid, but really they are due to other conditions.

If a person with Covid dies who is obese, then why not just chalk it up to obesity. Like magic, even the death count can be eliminated.

StClone

(11,682 posts)
6. A person with diabetes hit by a car (covid)
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:00 AM
Oct 2020

Did the car (covid = car in this illustration) kill them or not?

TomCADem

(17,380 posts)
7. Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:14 AM
Oct 2020

I think Trump and DeSantis will say that the death was caused by diabetes, not the car.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-comorbidities.html

A bogus claim circulating social media — one that purports that "only 6%" of the reported COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. are solely attributable to the new coronavirus — is dangerously misleading, infectious disease experts told Live Science.

This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned."

In other words, 6% of people who died when they had COVID-19 didn't have underlying conditions, such as diabetes, asthma or heart disease, and didn't experience any medical complications, such as kidney failure or sepsis. But the other 94% of deaths were still caused by COVID-19, infectious disease experts said. That's because many chronic, underlying conditions can make diseases that a person might otherwise recover from, such as COVID-19, suddenly deadly.

"When you look at the number of excess deaths this year in comparison with previous years, it's staggering," Dr. William Hanage, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard University’s School of Public Health told Live Science. That's an estimated 228,200 additional deaths in the United States, according to the Weinberger Lab at the University of California, San Francisco. Hanage noted that many of the people who have died so far had nonfatal diseases and would not have perished but for contracting the new coronavirus as well. For instance, someone with diabetes or high-blood pressure might have lived decades longer if they had not contracted COVID-19. Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventative medicine and infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Tennessee, echoed the same reality. "The point is that those people would not have died except that they were carried away by COVID," Schaffner told Live Science.

lark

(23,058 posts)
5. Fucking rw death sentence is just trying to fog up the narrative before the election.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:00 AM
Oct 2020

This is total BS. Most people do take awhile to die, it doesn't just happen immediately

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
8. From experience Covid can and will kill you given a chance
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:23 AM
Oct 2020

Why in hell are we tolerating these idiots perpetuating lies and propaganda?

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