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riversedge

(70,189 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:18 AM Oct 2020

Russian State Media Is Desperately Trying to Keep the Hunter Biden Story Alive

Source: daily beast




‘OUR CANDIDATE STILL HAS A CHANCE’

With Trump behind in the polls, Russian state media is throwing caution to the wind and making increasingly blatant attempts to interfere in the U.S. election.

Published Oct. 22, 2020 4:58AM ET


The “October Surprise” unleashed by President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani has turned out to be a dud of epic proportions—so sketchy that the author of the New York Post’s article reportedly refused to add his name to the byline. Despite glaring credibility issues, Giuliani argued the story should be widely disseminated. “Even if it isn’t accurate, the American people are entitled to know it,” he said.

The Trump administration’s trusty bedfellows at the Kremlin apparently adhere to the same philosophy. Russian state media outlets are going overboard to promote and legitimize the Hunter Biden allegations. Their desire to see Donald J. Trump re-elected is unwavering.

It seems their increasingly overt support for Trump is motivated by fear. 60 Minutes, which is broadcast on Russia’s most prominent state media channel Rossiya-1, reported that Trump is trailing behind Joe Biden in the polls and “will most likely lose the election.” They played the clip of the American president threatening to leave the country in the event he isn’t re-elected. “To Moscow, he’ll come to Moscow,” sniped co-host Olga Skabeeva. Tuning in from the United States, correspondent Denis Davydov weighed in: “Will the agent return to Moscow? Most likely not.”
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BumRushDaShow

(128,857 posts)
1. "Russian State Media Is Desperately Trying to..."
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:37 AM
Oct 2020

They don't really care as long as the U.S. is in chaos (which we are - politically, economically, and health-wise). It's the GOP "desperately trying to...". It's their "Hail Mary pass".

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
4. The Best Way to Keep US in Chaos Is To Support Trump and McConnell
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:50 AM
Oct 2020

They promote division and care nothing about the people or rule of law.

BumRushDaShow

(128,857 posts)
5. It seems the GOP has already been doing that
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:20 AM
Oct 2020

with or without their help. They have Newt Gingrich and Steve Bannon - the chaos-masters du jour - STILL behind the scenes keeping the pot stirring. Gingrich pretty much "invented" what we are seeing today and has been promoting it since Leonid Brezhnev was running the U.S.S.R. and Pooty was still in KGB training.


The Man Who Broke Politics

Newt Gingrich turned partisan battles into bloodsport, wrecked Congress, and paved the way for Trump’s rise. Now he’s reveling in his achievements.

Story by McKay Coppins
November 2018 Issue

Updated on October 17, 2018

[snip]

On June 24, 1978, Gingrich stood to address a gathering of College Republicans at a Holiday Inn near the Atlanta airport. It was a natural audience for him. At 35, he was more youthful-looking than the average congressional candidate, with fashionably robust sideburns and a cool-professor charisma that had made him one of the more popular faculty members at West Georgia College. But Gingrich had not come to deliver an academic lecture to the young activists before him—he had come to foment revolution.

“One of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don’t encourage you to be nasty,” he told the group. “We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal, and faithful, and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the campfire but are lousy in politics.” For their party to succeed, Gingrich went on, the next generation of Republicans would have to learn to “raise hell,” to stop being so “nice,” to realize that politics was, above all, a cutthroat “war for power”—and to start acting like it.

The speech received little attention at the time. Gingrich was, after all, an obscure, untenured professor whose political experience consisted of two failed congressional bids. But when, a few months later, he was finally elected to the House of Representatives on his third try, he went to Washington a man obsessed with becoming the kind of leader he had described that day in Atlanta. The GOP was then at its lowest point in modern history. Scores of Republican lawmakers had been wiped out in the aftermath of Watergate, and those who’d survived seemed, to Gingrich, sadly resigned to a “permanent minority” mind-set. “It was like death,” he recalls of the mood in the caucus. “They were morally and psychologically shattered.”

But Gingrich had a plan. The way he saw it, Republicans would never be able to take back the House as long as they kept compromising with the Democrats out of some high-minded civic desire to keep congressional business humming along. His strategy was to blow up the bipartisan coalitions that were essential to legislating, and then seize on the resulting dysfunction to wage a populist crusade against the institution of Congress itself. “His idea,” says Norm Ornstein, a political scientist who knew Gingrich at the time, “was to build toward a national election where people were so disgusted by Washington and the way it was operating that they would throw the ins out and bring the outs in.”

[snip]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/


What we are seeing is his "revenge" for his fall from grace 2 decades ago, as he has birthed a whole new generation of craptastical loons seen with the likes of the Loopy Gohmerts and Gymsuit Jordans and Devin Moooooooones of Congress. After awhile, even Hastert couldn't control them, nor Cheeto Boner, nor Lyin' Ryan.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
7. Russia With Social Media Has Been Able to Amplify Conspiracies...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:35 AM
Oct 2020

...that thrive in the right. Cable news and social media have created a symbiotic relationship that you can see in real time with Trump able to operate in an information bubble that is detached from this reality.

Russia has been active is amplifying divisive voices. And, it is not just on the right. If you are progressive who is attacking the validity of elections or Democrats from the left, you may suddenly find a sponsor who might helpfully recommend ideas for pieces that attack the Democratic Party from a progressive perspective. Think of Ed Schultz schilling for Trump on Russia Today.

Of course, just four years later, Russia has become more sophisticated and focuses on amplifying and adding to conspiracies through handles such as QAnon that attacks the entire Democratic Party as a cabal of pedophiles.

So, Russia is not being neutral. There is a reason why they have sided with Republicans, because Republicans themselves have become invested in tearing down American principles such as democracy or rule of law.

BumRushDaShow

(128,857 posts)
8. Agree that they are amplifying for sure
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:46 AM
Oct 2020

thanks to the ability to do so with technology that goes beyond the old school "print media" and "broadcast media". Also agree that they are amplifying both sides against the middle through vehicles like RT and The Nation. But the core tactics and strategies have been in play for some time and have taken on a life of their own, with them helping to spin the merry-go-roound faster and faster.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
13. The Advent of Newt...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:52 PM
Oct 2020

... is what has lead us down the slope to, "businessmen first, statesmen last", conundrum we are living in. I have said that for decades.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. Hey Vlad, your political instinct is dead wrong. Nobody can understand or relate to your lies.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:29 AM
Oct 2020

You are in serious trouble after January 20th.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
9. "Even if it isn't accurate, the American people are entitled to know it"
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:15 AM
Oct 2020

In other words, Giuliani knows it's a lie, but he spreads it anyway in hopes that it will help Trump.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
11. Worst case, everything that Russians say about Hunter is true. That has
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:00 PM
Oct 2020

no importance compared to what Mr. Trump has been and if elected will be. Hunter is not the candidate for president.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
12. Who listens to the Russians or for that matter, anybody else, w/ regard to any stories about
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

anything anymore? The Russians and all blew their wad in 2016 (fooled a lot of people back then) and since then, no one falls for anything anymore, especially with the liar in the WH, constantly lying, moaning, bitching, ranting, raving, etc.

They have shot their wads on being ridiculous, and basically just proved to everybody that they are worthless, not to be trusted, anything that they say is a lie and manufactured somehow, in short, they all are a joke.

Look at the laptop story...it fell on its face flatter than a piece of paper and went nowhere, absolutely nowhere.

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