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appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:42 PM Oct 2020

Poland's Top Court Rules Out Abortions Due To Fetal Defects

Source: PBS Newshour

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s top court ruled Thursday that a law allowing abortion of fetuses with congenital defects is unconstitutional, shutting a major loophole in the predominantly Catholic country’s abortion laws that are among the strictest in Europe.

Two judges in the 13-member Constitutional Court did not back the majority ruling. Activists deplored the decision, and the Council of Europe’s human rights commissioner wrote on Twitter that it was a “sad day for women’s rights.”

Hours later, hundreds of protesters defied a pandemic-related ban on gatherings and staged a protest before the court with signs saying “You Have Blood on Your Gowns” and then walked to the offices of the main ruling conservative party, Law and Justice. The police were checking their documents.

The ruling party will soon propose new legislation to better support women, the party’s spokeswoman said. The court’s decision came in response to a motion from right-wing lawmakers who argued that terminating a pregnancy due to fetal defects — the most common reason cited for legal abortions in Poland — violates a constitutional provision that calls for protecting the life of every individual.

Read more: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/polands-top-court-rules-out-abortions-due-to-fetal-defects



The law was introduced in 1993 by Poland’s young post-communist democracy, a hard-won compromise between the influential Catholic Church and the state authorities.

The law allowed abortions when a pregnancy endangers a woman’s health or life, or results from rape or other illegal act, and also in case of congenital defects. Only the last provision was challenged.

Many Polish women have sought abortions abroad, even before the new ruling.



- Protesters against imposing further restrictions on abortion law in Poland demonstrate in front of the Constitutional Court building in Warsaw, Poland Oct. 22, 2020.
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Poland's Top Court Rules Out Abortions Due To Fetal Defects (Original Post) appalachiablue Oct 2020 OP
If men got pregnant backroadblast Oct 2020 #1
Amy Coney Barrett is in the Confessional This Very Minute The Last James Left Oct 2020 #2
I think if the government wants all deformed babies born Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2020 #3
They don't live. Forcing the mothers to carry them to term is cruel. LisaM Oct 2020 #5
Quit similar to physician assisted suicide Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2020 #6
I can't relate to people who oppose abortion in a case like that either Ron Obvious Oct 2020 #7
This won't end abortions! LittleGirl Oct 2020 #4
 
2. Amy Coney Barrett is in the Confessional This Very Minute
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 09:20 AM
Oct 2020

Atoning for the spontaneous orgasm she experienced upon hearing the news.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
3. I think if the government wants all deformed babies born
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 11:07 AM
Oct 2020

Then it should have to care for them for their whole lives. Doubt that will happen though. Seriously, if life is so precious to them, then they should be willing to do that.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
5. They don't live. Forcing the mothers to carry them to term is cruel.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:55 PM
Oct 2020

I have a cousin in Kentucky who carried a non-viable baby to term, who knows why (they knew it wouldn't live, but she and her family are uneducated, probably anti-abortion as well). She actually posted a photo of the baby, who lived for a few minutes. It was horrible. The proximate cause of death was probably the lack of a functioning brain, but this baby had teeth (a full set, for a newborn) outside of the face, three eyes, and a misplaced nose, among other things. I'm sorry if that's an upsetting image, but that's the reality of what I saw. In a fair world, my cousin would have mercifully ended the pregnancy, but I think that in her circles, there is stigma attached to abortion. It was awful, just awful.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
6. Quit similar to physician assisted suicide
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 02:38 PM
Oct 2020

Seems to be often the same folks that are against both. They never seen to consider the cruelty aspect because quality of life doesn't matter to them.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
7. I can't relate to people who oppose abortion in a case like that either
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 03:05 PM
Oct 2020

I think about half of all pregnancies end in miscarriages anyway, often because of fetal abnormalities like that. If you're consistent in your religious beliefs, you must also believe God is the biggest abortionist out there.

But, as I said, I can't relate to their mindset.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
4. This won't end abortions!
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:49 PM
Oct 2020

It will end safe and legal abortions, disproportionately affecting poor women during Covid the most.

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