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appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 03:49 PM Oct 2020

Washington State Discovers First 'Murder Hornet' Nest In US

Source: AP News

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — Scientists have discovered the first nest of so-called murder hornets in the United States and plan to wipe it out Saturday to protect native honeybees, officials in Washington state said.

After weeks of searching, the agency said it found the nest of Asian giant hornets in Blaine, a city north of Seattle near the Canadian border. Bad weather delayed plans to destroy the nest Friday.

The world’s largest hornet at 2 inches (5 centimeters) long, the invasive insects can decimate entire hives of honeybees and deliver painful stings to people. Farmers in the northwestern U.S. depend on those honeybees to pollinate many crops, including raspberries and blueberries.

Despite their nickname and the hype around the insect that has stirred fears in an already bleak year, the hornets kill at most a few dozen people a year in Asian countries, and experts say it is probably far less. Meanwhile, hornets, wasps and bees typically found in the United States kill an average of 62 people a year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/spokane-insects-washington-asia-seattle-0cbf9cccf5a4a62902aa880c87629172



Asian giant hornets' greatest harm is their devastating attacks on honeybees, already under siege from problems like mites, diseases, pesticides and loss of food. A small group of the hornets can kill an entire honeybee hive in hours.

Scientists have been searching for nests since the first Asian giant hornets were caught earlier this year with the first confirmed detection of the hornet in the U.S. in Dec. 2019 near Blaine. The first hornet was trapped in July. Just over 20 have been caught so far, all in Whatcom County.

The invasive giant hornet is normally found in China, Japan, Thailand, South Korea, Vietnam and other Asian countries. Officials have said it’s not known how it arrived in NA. Washington state and the Canadian province of British Columbia are the only places the hornets have been found on the continent.



- A live Asian giant hornet with a tracking device affixed to it sits on an apple in a tree where it was placed, near Blaine, Washington, Oct. 7, 2020.
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Washington State Discovers First 'Murder Hornet' Nest In US (Original Post) appalachiablue Oct 2020 OP
Good! They found it! Maeve Oct 2020 #1
Glad to see it. Killer Hornets, what's next, lol appalachiablue Oct 2020 #3
That hornet in the photo looks like he wants to eff someone up. BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #2
Pissed off, badass giant hornet: beware appalachiablue Oct 2020 #4
Yeah, we shouldn't be afraid because they only kill a few dozen people max in Asia every year Yeehah Oct 2020 #5
Right out of a sci- fi movie, but real. Eeek appalachiablue Oct 2020 #6
Sure Glad they Found It before Winter montanacowboy Oct 2020 #7
There's another hive or 2 in BC. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #8
Bad weather delayed the destruction of the nest? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #9
Actually, honey bees are not native to North America, WheelWalker Oct 2020 #10
"Blaine, a city north of Seattle near the Canadian border" BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #11
Some 'fly.' We battled a stink bug infestation for months, mess appalachiablue Oct 2020 #12
The stinkbugs ("brown marmorated stinkbug") haven't gone away around here BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #15
They're horrible, we had stink bugs for months on several appalachiablue Oct 2020 #18
A former co-worker of mine had an infestation some years ago BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #22
They're slow at least & don't bite or sting, but what nasty, prehistoric appalachiablue Oct 2020 #25
I lived in Japan for a bit. pfitz59 Oct 2020 #13
Good, finally! XanaDUer2 Oct 2020 #14
+1 Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #16
There are giant European hornets on the east coast bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #17
Tx for this news, glad they're harmless.. appalachiablue Oct 2020 #19
I don't think harmless, you can get a really good sting from them bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #20
Righto, compared to dangerous Killa Hornets is what I meant appalachiablue Oct 2020 #21
The ugly nasty ones are those bald-faced hornets BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #23
i was bitten by 7-9 of those at once on my ankles decades ago bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #26
They probably have some natural variations in their patterns BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #27
Thanks, I'm getting closer bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #29
LOL okay BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #32
Thank goodness. Now find the rest. JohnnyRingo Oct 2020 #24
Oh, well then. If only a few dozen people are killed a year. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #28
What fresh hell is this?? ailsagirl Oct 2020 #30
wow...Asian FLU... the China Virus... and now Asian Murder Hornets ?? yuiyoshida Oct 2020 #31
Given the infestation of Trump cultists in my beautiful area of eastern WA Rural_Progressive Oct 2020 #33

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
3. Glad to see it. Killer Hornets, what's next, lol
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 03:59 PM
Oct 2020

My great grandfather went deaf after an attack by a swarm of bees. He continued to work every day, riding a bicycle to work.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
2. That hornet in the photo looks like he wants to eff someone up.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 03:56 PM
Oct 2020

It's kind of funny that they have an angry-looking face, on top of everything else terrifying about them.

montanacowboy

(6,083 posts)
7. Sure Glad they Found It before Winter
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 04:41 PM
Oct 2020

My sister has been having nightmares about those things ever since we found out they were in the vicinity. She is allergic to bee stings and she was always looking for one of those damn things.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
9. Bad weather delayed the destruction of the nest?
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 04:50 PM
Oct 2020

No! Put on a rain hat and some galoshes, get in there and wipe it out before they swarm!

Yikes!

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
10. Actually, honey bees are not native to North America,
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 04:53 PM
Oct 2020

and may be themselves considered an invasive species. For perspective.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
11. "Blaine, a city north of Seattle near the Canadian border"
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 05:06 PM
Oct 2020

I've been there. Blaine IS the town with a border crossing (that includes a palm tree) into British Columbia.

Between those hornets over there and the damn lanternflys over here in PA (that are slowly moving into surrounding states), we are being overrun with non-native pests!



I saw my first one the summer before this past one and this year, I have been inundated with them, crawling all over the front and back of my house, crawling around on sidewalks, in store parking lots, and landing on the car (they especially like to hop on car tires since they are technically leaf hoppers, although they can fly short distances). These things have slowly been decimating the vineyards. I spent much of the summer swatting, smashing and spraying them.

I am sure those hornets, like these lanternflys, came over on cargo ships and/or on planes and any that survived the fumigation they usually do with certain cargo, were spread around via tractor-trailers, since we import so much from China.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
15. The stinkbugs ("brown marmorated stinkbug") haven't gone away around here
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 05:47 PM
Oct 2020


I know I've seen them every year since the early 2000s in my neighborhood and since they are basically thin and flat with a hard shell, they can crawl under doors or through narrow cracks by windows and then lay a pile of eggs that eventually hatch, with the baby instars easily able to get further into the house and grow up to be full size bugs that you suddenly spot on a wall or sheer curtain.

There were thankfully less of them this year despite the mild winter, but those damn lanternflys just exploded this year.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
18. They're horrible, we had stink bugs for months on several
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 06:23 PM
Oct 2020

exterior and interior walls, and the front porch- mostly sun exposure places, right before we sold the home.

Every day I was killing them by swatting and spraying with Dawn soap so eventually they died down.

I'll never forget first seeing them one afternoon- hundreds on a bedroom wall near a window where they'd come in. It was so sudden, and like a Sci Fi movie!

I watched a video of a NPS staffer, poor man had been battling Stink Bugs for years at his home in western Md.

After an aggressive attack one day, he came into the kitchen where the bugs had some how got into a heavy pot of Chili with a LID on it, on his stovetop, dozens of them crawling around. Gross.

Keep an eye open, and take action to intervene early on. Good luck with the big, ugly lanternflys. Pests!
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In Ken Burns' 'Dust Bowl' documentary, an older man recalled how as a boy in the Midwest he had to stand outside all day with a baseball bat to hit armies of large starving Jackrabbits descending in mass groups on farms and homes, desperately searching for anything to drink and eat. That included chewing up wood fences and more.

He was almost crying over the experience it was so traumatic, footage of the big rabbit invaders was shown in the film..

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
22. A former co-worker of mine had an infestation some years ago
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 06:44 PM
Oct 2020

They had a steamer trunk that she and her hubby had used to store assorted stuff for when they were moving into a new house. So since it was used to hold odds and ends, they didn't get around to unpacking it right away. But once they finally got to it and opened the lid, she said the entire thing was crawling with them. She then described the nightmare that lasted much of a weekend trying to get rid of them from the trunk. I think they started out with a vacuum cleaner and were using old towels to wipe out the eggs, and then had to hunt down everywhere else they had crawled when they opened that trunk.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
25. They're slow at least & don't bite or sting, but what nasty, prehistoric
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 07:21 PM
Oct 2020

looking prolific pests. Glad your neighbors were able to remove the bugs from the chest despite the hassle.

With importation, decline of effective pesticides and more, we're seeing more bugs and other nuisances than I've ever experienced in my relatively long life. Yuck.

Last year I caught up with friends who moved to a temp. rental house in No. Va.; they picked up scabies there. I was stunned, a term I hadn't heard since my dad joked about it in the 1970s from combat days in WWII Europe..

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
17. There are giant European hornets on the east coast
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 06:05 PM
Oct 2020

same size, very similar coloring, they are a pain, but supposedly not deadly.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
23. The ugly nasty ones are those bald-faced hornets
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 06:55 PM
Oct 2020

I remember at the place I moved where I'm living now, I ran into a bunch that found my hummingbird feeder. I had never seen those large white hornets and ID'd what they were. They were chasing both the hummers and the regular yellow jackets away and even bothering the carpenter bees. I was finally able to make a simple "trap" out of a small mason jar, aluminum foil, and using I think some apple cider vinegar and jelly as bait, and managed to snag 6 of them. Apparently there was a nest of them nearby.



bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
26. i was bitten by 7-9 of those at once on my ankles decades ago
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 07:23 PM
Oct 2020

wound up in the ER on adrenaline. Never knew what they were called. Actually the ones that bit me had white diamond shapes on their backs, right on top. White diamonds with a black center.

I also have things that I just ID'd as I think a hummingbird moth, but with a long 1/8" straight beak with a flared tip. These are really crazy. Move fast, scare the living daylights out of me.

Thanks for the info!

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
27. They probably have some natural variations in their patterns
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 07:41 PM
Oct 2020

but you definitely can't miss them because they are pretty large and so unique compared to the regular yellow and black striped yellow jackets.



I saw a hummingbird moth once - and it was long ago when I was growing some moonflower vines that were just opening at dusk and suddenly it appeared (the hummingbirds had already gone back to their nests to sleep). This what they look like -



(aka "Sphinx moth" of "Silence of the Lambs" fame )

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
29. Thanks, I'm getting closer
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 07:59 PM
Oct 2020

but the black hornets were small, no longer than an inch. The first pic you posted is closer, just lacking the diamond back.

Hummingbird moth is not as close. Wider tail, half that wing span, pale yellow and black stripes, vibrating furiously, long open beak.

Sometimes I don't like this close to nature thing!

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
32. LOL okay
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 08:51 PM
Oct 2020

I do know there are different types of hummingbird moths. What makes them noticeable is that they are huge compared to the standard moths you see flitting around.

What is scary are the Chinese preying mantises. I had one last year on my milkweed stalking the monarch caterpillars (which I ended up pulling off the plant and putting in a mesh keeper with their own potted milkweed) AND it moved near my hummingbird feeder and was stalking them too. Had to shoo it away. The thing had to be at least 4" long and looked like this -





I guess enough with the bugs.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
24. Thank goodness. Now find the rest.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 07:19 PM
Oct 2020

I know they've failed a few times to attach a tracker to one. A species that deserves extinction.

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)
30. What fresh hell is this??
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 08:12 PM
Oct 2020

What were the 10 plagues sent by God?

The plagues are: water turning to blood, frogs, lice, flies, livestock pestilence, boils, hail, locusts, darkness, and the killing of firstborn children.
Lice we can handle, but killer hornets???

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
31. wow...Asian FLU... the China Virus... and now Asian Murder Hornets ??
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 08:17 PM
Oct 2020

damn, SOMETHING else I can be blamed for... :/

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
33. Given the infestation of Trump cultists in my beautiful area of eastern WA
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 09:38 PM
Oct 2020

I must admit to being grateful that this particular insect seems to have been blocked from moving east by the Cascades.

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