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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 08:05 PM Oct 2020

Texas Makes Convention Center a Hospital Amid COVID Surge, Polling-Place Masks Still Optional

Source: Newsweek

A sprawling convention center in El Paso will act as a makeshift hospital starting this week, as the southern Texas city grapples with spiking COVID-19 cases and a subsequent surge in hospitalizations related to the disease.

But while the state amplifies its response to El Paso's coronavirus outbreak, Texas is reporting an enormous turnout at in-person polling places, where participants are not required to wear face masks. The sharp uptick in El Paso's COVID-19 cases has occurred during Texas' early voting period, which commenced on October 13 and ends this upcoming Friday.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced on Sunday plans to expand the El Paso's hospital capacity using the El Paso Convention and Performing Arts Center, in partnership with the Texas Division of Emergency Management (TDEM). The site will initially offer 50 additional hospital beds, with the potential to double its capacity if necessary, as well as medical equipment. According to the governor's office, TDEM personnel and other Texas health officials have also worked to establish auxiliary medical units at local hospitals as part of their efforts to meet increasing patient needs.

"The alternate care site and auxiliary medical units will reduce the strain soon hospitals in El Paso as we contain the spread of COVID-19 in the region," Abbott said in a statement released Sunday morning. "We continue to work closely with local officials in El Paso and provide resources to reduce hospitalizations, mitigate the spread, and keep the people of El Paso safe."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-makes-convention-center-a-hospital-amid-covid-surge-polling-place-masks-still-optional/ar-BB1anDLw



Even as COVID-19 is surging, the Texas Supreme Court has upheld the Governor's order limiting ballot drop boxes in populous counties.
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Texas Makes Convention Center a Hospital Amid COVID Surge, Polling-Place Masks Still Optional (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2020 OP
I do not understand how Texas can be under a mask mandate tanyev Oct 2020 #1
I live in a red county MakeTXBlue2020 Oct 2020 #2
Welcome to DU. area51 Oct 2020 #5
Do your best to keep safe. Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #9
You just have to understand the total bullshit tibbir Oct 2020 #4
Eat shit, Greg Abbott. (nt) Paladin Oct 2020 #3
Wow, a major outbreak is underway and Masks are Not Mandated in polling places. I'm speechless. nt iluvtennis Oct 2020 #6
This is not good. EndlessWire Oct 2020 #7
"there was mention of consideration as to whether ice rinks could be used as makeshift morgues." BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #10
TU for all the info. EndlessWire Oct 2020 #13
"they should be thinking, 'Food supply.'" BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #14
Yeah. EndlessWire Oct 2020 #15
Yup and the sad thing is BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #16
And yet the Governor basically has the State fully open... JCMach1 Oct 2020 #8
thanks, asshole abbott, you stupid sycophantic fuck. Javaman Oct 2020 #11
K&R Blue Owl Oct 2020 #12

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
1. I do not understand how Texas can be under a mask mandate
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 08:20 PM
Oct 2020

but it’s not required in polling places. Everybody had a mask on when I voted, thank goodness.

MakeTXBlue2020

(131 posts)
2. I live in a red county
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 08:43 PM
Oct 2020

so there were a number of Trumpers without masks. So frustrating! I came prepared though with a face shield along with my mask which made me feel a little safer.

tibbir

(1,170 posts)
4. You just have to understand the total bullshit
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 09:40 PM
Oct 2020

that is our 'illustrious' governor Greg the Asshole Abbott.

EndlessWire

(6,479 posts)
7. This is not good.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 12:34 AM
Oct 2020

Earlier in the summer there was mention of consideration as to whether ice rinks could be used as makeshift morgues. Maybe this wasn't for Texas, but it is something to think about. Having an overflow hospital in an arena is alarming. Remember when China hurried up and built those extra hospitals in a week? We didn't bother to do anything.

This is why we needed a leader who would tell the people that they had to wear masks, period, and then lead by example. I absolutely blame Trump and the GOP for failing to take steps to encourage the use of masks and social distancing. They could have informed the Trumpers that they were risking their lives if they didn't do it.

But, we have a pRes who wants the virus to wash over us all. He doesn't want to fight. Instead, he wants to control access to any vaccine or treatment there might be. There is going to be a special place in hell for all of them.

BumRushDaShow

(128,724 posts)
10. "there was mention of consideration as to whether ice rinks could be used as makeshift morgues."
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 08:52 AM
Oct 2020

Here in Philly and many locations in the Midatlantic, they were bringing in refrigerated trucks, including some from chain stores, to hold bodies.

https://billypenn.com/2020/03/26/philly-rushing-to-add-morgue-space-in-advance-of-covid-19-death-surge/

Here were some lined up in NYC (DOD set aside 85 + 100K body bags) -



And the Wawa chain sent one of their refrigerated food trucks from here in PA to NJ -




TEXT

Governor Phil Murphy
@GovMurphy
.@Wawa sent a 53-foot refrigerated truck to Bergen County after hearing about our need for refrigerated trucks to help take the pressure off our morgues and funeral homes in protecting the bodies of those we have lost.

Their help is invaluable. We’re so thankful.
1:30 PM · Apr 8, 2020


The large cities in the NE/MA also set up "overflow" facilities in convention centers, etc., to offload people who were in hospitals for more "routine" or serious care that was non-covid related. NYC set up the Jacob Javitz Center -



where CNN had reported nearly 1000 had been treated at the time along with almost 200 at the USNS hospital ship "Comfort" -



and here in Philly they set up the Liacouras Center (Temple University's arena) -



Fortunately because our Governors did a COMPLETE LOCK DOWN we were able to halt the extreme rise in cases, hospitalizations, and subsequent deaths, and start to "flatten the curve". I noticed that no one talks about "flattening the curve" anymore.

EndlessWire

(6,479 posts)
13. TU for all the info.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 09:44 PM
Oct 2020

Trump attacked Whitmer, saying she had closed the churches, etc...I guess appealing to the very religious in hopes of getting reelected.

There is an illness where you cannot see the real world details of stuff. Honestly, there is some condition where you can't see, say, clutter, where when you finally can see it, you say, "Why didn't I see that? It was right in front of me."

I hope the media does it's job this winter. I am stunned when people complain about not being able to send their kids to school, as if there is something extraordinary that a school district could do if they wanted. I wouldn't send my kid into a school right now no matter what. Yet people are suing over their right to endanger their kids.

What are they thinking? Instead of worrying about Johnny socializing, they should be thinking, "Food supply."

It's hard.

BumRushDaShow

(128,724 posts)
14. "they should be thinking, 'Food supply.'"
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:27 PM
Oct 2020

All I know is that back this past April, after our state of PA was shut down for all but essential businesses (where essential included supermarkets, pharmacies, etc), I remember walking into my closest supermarket and staring in horror at the empty shelves. Aisle after aisle, with a few items sprinkled here and there. It felt like I had stepped into a dystopian sci-fi movie.

We are marginally in a better place now - at least in terms of having masks available, which was not the case back then other than those of us who managed to grab some N95s from Home Depot before they were gone. It took months before those stores started to have somewhat of a semblance of returning to normalcy with respect to stock (although the reduced levels of toilet paper brands/types still hasn't been fully resolved here yet).

There is a pervasive sentiment where people see a stat like the COVID-19 death rate, which appears to the general public as "minuscule" despite being many times more than that of the flu, and thus there is the thinking that it'll be "just like a cold and you get over it". There have been so many reports of people who never really needed hospitalization but who also never really "got over it", with lingering symptoms like fatigue, and who knows what damage that might have been caused to vital organs.

It's just not something to play with.

Those of us who are in states that were getting hit hard in the spring, often saw little sympathy for our plight and even lesser expectation that other parts of the country would ever experience it, notably the lesser populated and rural areas. But here we are, going into fall watching the pandemic rage from afar and going through it once more ourselves...

175 bodies in 2 days: Deluged with coronavirus victims, a Philadelphia cemetery aims to preserve the dignity of the dead

by Mike Newall, Updated: May 5, 2020


David Drysdale Jr. stood in the hallway of the crematorium his family has run for three generations and took stock of the pandemic’s dead. He could barely move. The bodies, in cardboard cremation boxes, had overtaken the hallway. He had to cut a path around them. The refrigerators were long past filled. So was the receiving vault, the moss-covered stone edifice in East Mount Airy’s Ivy Hill Cemetery and Crematory that hadn’t held a body in a century — not since the 1918 flu epidemic swept through the city, leaving devastation in its wake.

In the grip of that crisis, the gravediggers at the historic cemetery could not dig fast enough. By late April, as the coronavirus continued to extract its toll, Drysdale and his crematorium operators could not keep up with the unrelenting flow of bodies, the line of hearses that snaked down the driveway and through the cemetery’s cresting hills. They had tried to prepare. They watched the death toll in New York, and knew Philadelphia’s dead would be coming. They cleaned out the old receiving vault, beneath the shade of a red maple tree.

And Drysdale added an extra crew to keep up. But he soon realized there was no keeping up. The cremation machines burned all day, so hot that even in the mornings, after cooling all night, the bricks glowed cherry-red. Some of the dead were from the same family. A mother and son. A father and son. All of the families were denied the chance to say goodbye. Drysdale wanted to help grieving families and accommodate funeral directors, who were as overwhelmed as he was. But storing bodies in a crematorium hallway does not afford the dead the dignity he was taught they deserve.

So, standing among the victims of a vicious virus, he decided he had to cap the number of bodies the crematory could accept on any given day at 40. Still a number unlike any he’d seen in his life, and his life has been spent at the cemetery. “It’s not a production line,” he said last week. “Whether we do 100 [cremations] or we do one, we got to do the right thing. We got to take our time.”

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-ivy-hill-cemetery-crematory-20200505.html

EndlessWire

(6,479 posts)
15. Yeah.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:47 PM
Oct 2020

And, I hate to be gross, but these cremations cost a fair amount of money. At least in Cali.

Eight years ago, a basic cremation locally cost about $2,500. That's with no ceremony. Pick your loved one up at the crematory, which serves all the local funeral homes. You get a basic box with remains, no urn. An urn can cost $150.00.

If your loved one dies at home and hasn't seen a doctor in, I think two days, then the coroner comes and takes the body away. Where I live, they charged $350 for the coroner to say, "Yep, he's dead." $15 for each copy of the death certificate that you want.

I only bring this up because families already have an assault on their hearts, and might be forced to let the bodies go because it is expensive to die. This is a piece of preplanning to think about.

BumRushDaShow

(128,724 posts)
16. Yup and the sad thing is
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 04:52 AM
Oct 2020

that funerals are often several times that cost - upwards of $6,000 - $10,000 (including any embalming, casket, flowers, hearse, cemetery plot if one had not already been available, headstone, etc), and that is why unless one is religiously opposed to it, families are forced to go that route.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
11. thanks, asshole abbott, you stupid sycophantic fuck.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 01:05 PM
Oct 2020

you enabled the orange asshole but being his texas fluffer.

I live in Austin. I have a feeling it's going to get really bad here this winter.

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