US Coronavirus: Country May Not Be Back To Normal Until 2022, Fauci Says

[appalachiablue]

Source: MSN/CNN

As Covid-19 cases continue to jump during the fall surge, Dr. Anthony Fauci says there's little chance of normalcy on the horizon. The US will have a vaccine in the next few months, but there's a chance a "substantial proportion of the people" won't be vaccinated until the second or third quarter of 2021, Fauci said.

The director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases reiterated caution on the nation's outlook. "I think it will be easily by the end of 2021, and perhaps even into the next year, before we start having some semblances of normality," Fauci said during a University of Melbourne panel discussion Tuesday.

Things aren't looking too good for the US as the winter approaches, he said Wednesday. Twenty-nine states set new records this month for the most new daily cases since the pandemic began, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

"We're not in a good place," Fauci said during a virtual Q&A session on Wednesday. "Now we're averaging about 70,000 a (day). That's a bad position to be in." And it's not just due to more testing. The average number of daily new cases this past week is up 21% compared to the previous week, according to JHU.

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From the University of Melbourne.

[Chemisse]

1. He is painfully honest.

I'd like to think it will all be over by June. But what he says makes sense.

[appalachiablue]

2. I trust Fauci completely, still 2022 is rough to hear but

I'll get used to it.

[Bayard]

15. And that's why trump hates him.

He won't be a political tool.

Biden believes in the science, and I think he will rely on Fauci. Even when its bad news.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

3. Oh, at least.

Here's what I've been saying for some time.

Imagine it's the spring of 1939, and you and I are planning a trip to Europe. Hooray! We've been planning for several years now, working extra jobs, saving every possible penny. Next year it will happen! We're planning to go to London, Paris, Venice, Rome, the French Riviera, maybe some other places. There are still details to be worked out, but we're getting ready to start finalizing things. Then September rolls around and WWII breaks out. Oh, crap. We certainly won't be going to Europe next year, but we're optimistic that the war won't last very long and we'll be able to go in 1941.

Except the war does last. And last. It doesn't finally end in Europe until May, 1945. Sigh. Clearly we won't be making that trip until 1946, maybe a year or two later. And when we finally get there, it will be a Europe vastly different from the one we might have seen in 1939. Nothing is the same.

And that's what it's going to be like with this pandemic. Metaphorically, we are in January of 1940. The war has just begun, and we have no idea how devastating it's going to be. The same with the pandemic. It's not only the deaths that will occur. It's the profound changes in society. Schools are going to completely reinvent themselves. Jobs that can be done at home will be done at home. The absolute need for decent paid health care will be front and center. The outrageous cost of public colleges and universities (in this country, it's not the same elsewhere) will be re-thought. I am sure I am not thinking of everything. But the changes will be at least as profound as how Europe changed from 1939 to 1946.

[appalachiablue]

6. What you listed & more will change due to Covid.

in reading, I wonder what changes large cities are in store for, people who can afford it are moving out to suburbs & other areas to have more space for a home office and a kids room for remote learning, etc.

How can mass transit, buses and subways, also buildings and schools be adapted with better spacing, ventilation and more for future epidemics. Germany is already enhancing ventilation and air conditioning in public buildings.

For essential service workers the exposure to risks is far less avoidable.

When WWII started, my parents were in college but I never asked them what it was like unfortunately.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

9. Right. At this point we can only guess what the changes might be.

Very much as if you asked someone in October, 1939, what the world might be like when the brand new war was over. They'd get almost everything wrong. Just as we now are getting almost everything wrong.

[marybourg]

4. Yup. We're doing about as well at they did with the plague back in the sixteenth

century. Theaters and schools were closed for 2-4 years. Thanks tRump.

[LudwigPastorius]

5. This is disheartening, but understandable.

We don't even know how long natural immunity lasts after you recover from infection.

A just-released paper from Imperial College London found that antibody prevalence fell by 26.5% over the three months under study.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/institute-of-global-health-innovation/MEDRXIV-2020-219725v1-Elliott.pdf

These data suggest the possibility of decreasing population immunity and increasing risk of reinfection as detectable antibodies decline in the population.

It seems that Trump's insane "herd immunity" approach to this pandemic is not only cruel and stupid, it also might never work.

[orangecrush]

7. Truth

[Seasider]

8. Maybe I'm over optimistic but I don't think 2021 will be another year of major lockdowns

I think for most that year we will still be practicing social distancing and mask wearing but we will eventually learn how to deal with the pandemic and hopefully if vaccines work, that will a big help too. By 2022, the hope is the infection rate will be so low there will no longer be a need to have restrictive measures.

Of course this all hinges on Biden getting elected. If Trump is still President next year, we're all screwed.

[BigmanPigman]

10. Ditto (your last sentence).

[Aussie105]

11. Oh, I wish he wouldn't smile when he says that . . .

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But he is right.

Current unknowns:
Vaccines - when, how effective, single shot gives lifelong immunity or will you need one shot plus follow up boosters, with a repeat every year or so?
How long to produce this as-yet-nonexistent vaccine and distribute it to 95% of the population in the US and globally, to provide true herd immunity?

Other than that, I see no problem. But I'm an optimist, there are always unknown unknowns, to quote somebody.

End of next year sounds optimistic, but I live in hope.

[raccoon]

12. It's not pleasant to hear, but better than the stupid pretty lies

The Dotard comes up with.

[Sherman A1]

13. That is what I expected from the start of the pandemic

Late 2021 or 2022. So no surprise here.

[lonely bird]

14. Normal?

This is normal. Not the wearing of masks or social distancing but rather the shuttering of many small businesses permanently, the risk of exposure by people of color in low wage “essential” work and large companies shedding payroll while adjusting processes to maintain ROI or RONA is now and will be “normal.”

There is no vaccine “coming shortly”. Yes, there has been advances in the science of developing vaccines but there has never been a vaccine for any coronavirus approved for widespread distribution for people.

The bottom line is this: Capitalism’s purpose is not to create jobs. Thus dependence on a system that more and more is simply making money by moving money to help “return to normal” is pie in the sky.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

16. K&R