Two dead after knife attack in Nice, France; mayor says 'everything suggests' it was a terror attack

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Source: cnbc

A man armed with a knife on Thursday killed two people and wounded several others at a church in the French city of Nice, police have confirmed to NBC News. They added that the suspect had been injured by police and is now in hospital.

The city’s mayor, Christian Estrosi, tweeted that “everything suggests” it was a terror attack.

The attack took place inside the city’s Notre Dame church at around 9:10 a.m. local time (4:10 a.m. ET) and comes 13 days after French middle school teacher Samuel Paty was killed in Paris.



Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/nice-knife-attack-police-operation-underway-mayor-says-may-be-terrorism.html

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Other site are reporting a beheading, fuck. WTF is happening to France??

[Sherman A1]

1. Sad

Simply sad.

[oldsoftie]

2. I think you already know the answer to your question.

But you rightfully dont answer it.

[Codeine]

5. DU blind spot. nt

[samsingh]

7. agreed

[EllieBC]

22. Exactly.

Just like no one wants to talk about why Jews are fleeing France.

[oldsoftie]

28. I kind of brought that up as well; in #10.

SO many stories are blatantly ignored.

[JI7]

3. There were more attacks from Muslim Leaders towards Macron defending those Cartoons

than against the killing of the teacher for showing them in class .

By Muslim leaders i'm referring to leaders of nations .

And they cartoons were also ridiculing Christianity and Judaism .

[Codeine]

4. Islam is happening to France.

Religion sucks.

[GulfCoast66]

6. Everyone on DU knows the answer to your question.

It presents a problem for some of our more doctrinaire members. When members of a minority are sometimes followers of a dark age religious cult it creates a quandary.

If the killers were members of a Christian death cult who happened to be native French there would be no limit of discussion. I hate self censorship but like my DU posting status.

[samsingh]

8. 2 more human sacrifices

[Codeine]

9. Can you imagine if this act had been

a far right attack in a mosque? It would literally be the only topic of discussion here.

But this? Crickets.

[oldsoftie]

10. Thank you.

As the day progresses, look at the number of responses this story will get. Few. Same when theres a story of Jews being attacked.

[Codeine]

35. It's sad how completely

anti-Semitism transcends politics and ideology. It’s the one constant, regardless of which side of the aisle on which we are seated.

[oldsoftie]

44. I'll never understand this fear/hatred of Jews. They dont force THEIR religion on people.

They dont demand society change to fit THEIR religion. Its common here for Jews to work for Christians on holidays they dont participate in. I dont see or hear of Jewish terror attacks across the world. Cant recall seeing or hearing of any Jewish slums or gaming the system.
I'm so sick of it

[Devil Child]

13. This will be flushed down the memoryhole.

[LanternWaste]

33. Much as the allegation that Amy Cooper was lynched and her life destroyed was flushed down that hole

Awkward.

(but she did get her dog back... so there's that )

[Devil Child]

41. Thank you for letting me into your memoryhole LanternWaste

It makes my day when I see you have made My Posts turn yellow.

[oldsoftie]

11. And thats really what it amounts to.

You can post actual facts that cannot be argued; and get it blocked because the particular fact isnt popular.

[GoneOffShore]

46. I go with Terry Pratchett on these kinds of things.

“Just because someone's a member of an ethnic minority doesn't mean they're not a nasty small-minded little jerk.”
― Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay

[Devil Child]

12. Fundamental Islam is incompatible with modern Western society

I fear that France has many beheadings in its future.

[MicaelS]

15. I said that once before.

Talk about a backlash.

[Devil Child]

17. I can imagine the response MicaelS

Probably a mix of how dare you, bias concerns, and rationalization of Islamist violence as response to some grave Western offense.

[58Sunliner]

19. I agree. Women especially are at risk.

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. Now 3 dead

One of the victims was reported to be a 70-year-old woman who was beheaded in the church. A man, believed to be the church warden, was the second victim. A woman in her 40s was critically injured and managed to run from the church but died of her injuries.

Police described the scene as a “vision of horror”. The national anti-terrorist prosecutor said an investigation had been opened into “killings linked to a terrorist organisation”.
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Also on Thursday, there were reports that a man carrying a knife and threatening passersby in the street at Avignon had been shot dead by police.

The shooting happened at 11.15am, just over two hours after the Nice attack. Police opened fire after the man reportedly threatened them.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/29/knife-attack-in-nice-france-people-killed-church

[dalton99a]

16. The natural evolution of religious fanatics is to become murderous assholes.

[58Sunliner]

18. Violent religious Islamist fundies. This is a hate crime and a terrorist attack.

The first thing I think of when someone tells me that they are a muslim is how do you support a religion based on the Koran. Same with christians and their bibles. It means they are compartmentalizing with reality. I realize religion is also part culture, so it makes that much harder to put aside, at the risk of alienating friends and family and support systems, which is, by design. A lot of power is invested in maintaining the hierarchy of religion. As we have seen, leaving can be life threatening. And that is insane.

[Steelrolled]

20. I don't think the French will ever stop making

drawings that offend Muslims. Why? Because they can. And I don't think the Muslims will ever say "Thank you sir may I have another?"

It reminds me of that great song "Ball of Confusion"

Well, the only person talkin' 'bout love thy brother is the preacher
And it seems nobody's interested in learning but the teacher
Segregation, determination, demonstration, integration, aggravation,
humiliation, obligation to our nation
Ball Of Confusion that's what the world is today (yeah, yeah)
...
And the band played on

[Codeine]

24. And the French never should.

Everyone should be free to mock and blaspheme as they please.

[Steelrolled]

30. True, and everyone should try to be thoughtful.

Just because you can do something, it doesn't mean you should.

[Codeine]

34. Oh baloney.

I’m under no obligation to worry about Bronze Age mores. Absolute poppycock. The onus is not on those of us living in the 21st century.

[Dial H For Hero]

36. I quite agree.

Of all the strange crimes that humanity has legislated out of nothing, blasphemy is the most amazing - with obscenity and indecent exposure fighting it out for second and third place. ---Robert A. Heinlein

[Steelrolled]

37. If only everyone could stop worrying about those Bronze Age mores.

[Codeine]

39. Those who propagate those mores

have a disturbing habit of cutting motherfuckers heads off. Makes it hard to ignore.

[EX500rider]

32. One of my all time fav shows was when I saw Janes Addiction open for Love & Rockets

What a show!

[Steelrolled]

38. I just listened to their version of Ball of Confusion

The original was so good that it is hard to appreciate their version, but it could grow on me.

[EX500rider]

40. It was a great dance track at the progressive clubs in the '90's

..I had totally forgot it was a remake...lol

[melman]

23. Horrifying

[RelativelyJones]

25. We all know what is happening in France and why.

Macron is speaking very clearly and correctly about what is happening.

[dalton99a]

26. +1. No religion should be exempt from critical examination, especially in a secular society

[BusyBeingBest]

27. How brave, slaughtering elderly people at church.

France needs to get a handle on this terrorism shit.

[George II]

29. For some bizarre reason stabbings in France have been rampant for years. Back in 2003....

...I went to London and Paris on a business trip (only time to Europe) The one thing my coworkers warned about was pickpockets in Paris who stab their victims.

Sure enough on my last night I was accosted and the perp took 200 Euros out of my pocket. I didn't resist so I guess that's why I wasn't stabbed.

[Steelrolled]

31. I remember when cutting bags was common on NYC trains.

Maybe it still is. You would never know it happened until sometime later. The thieves were pretty skilled, and depended on the fact that very few people who saw what was happening would say anything.

[DashOneBravo]

42. Bump

[muriel_volestrangler]

43. Killer was migrant from Tunisia with Red Cross documents, arrived a few days ago

The man who stabbed two women and a man to death in a church in France arrived from Tunisia days ago, officials say.

The suspect, 21, had an Italian Red Cross document, issued after he arrived by a migrant boat to Italy's Lampedusa island last month. He was shot by police and is in a critical condition.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54742403

French officials have identified the man responsible for the Nice attack as Brahim Aouissaoui, a 21-year-old Tunisian who had recently arrived in France from Italy, which he had reached by boat in late September. Both the Conflans murder and September’s Charlie Hebdo attack were committed by 18-year-old immigrants. Abdouallakh Anzorov was a Chechen who came to France at the age of six, probably from Moscow. Ali Hassan left Pakistan at 15 to be smuggled to Europe.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/29/attacks-in-france-put-islamist-extremism-back-in-spotlight

[rockfordfile]

45. Interesting that this happens again during election time.

The attacks are done by right-wing religious extremist.

[muriel_volestrangler]

47. More relevant is it's during the trial of the killers at Charlie Hebdo

The trial started last month; and then there was a attack outside the Charlie Hebdo offices. Then the teacher was murdered. Now this - the killer arrived in France in the morning, and went straight to the church:

France's chief anti-terrorism prosecutor, Jean-François Ricard, said in a news conference that surveillance footage showed the suspect arriving in Nice via the city's railway station on Thursday morning, where he changed his clothes.

The suspect then walked the 400m (1,312ft) to the Notre-Dame basilica, which he entered at 08:29 local time (07:29 GMT).

There, he attacked and "virtually beheaded" an elderly woman, while a church worker received fatal wounds to the throat.

A second woman managed to escape the church and reach a nearby bar, but later died of her injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54736277