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muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:16 PM Oct 2020

Fed appeal court rules mailed ballot must be received by Election Day in MN, cutting weeklong window

Source: CNN

(CNN)A federal appeals court ruled Thursday that mailed-in ballots in Minnesota must be received by elections officials no later than Election Day.

The 2-1 ruling -- a win for the Republican challengers to the state's plans -- cuts off a weeklong window after Election Day where state officials had planned to receive ballots that had lingered in the mail. The court found the Minnesota secretary of state's accommodation went against a state law that said ballots delivered by mail to elections officials after 8 p.m. on Election Day should be marked late.

"The Secretary's instructions to count mail-in ballots received up to seven days after Election Day stand in direct contradiction to Minnesota election law governing presidential elections," the ruling stated.
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"The consequences of this order are not lost on us," the court's opinion said. "We acknowledge and understand the concerns over voter confusion, election administration issues, and public confidence in the election. ... With that said, we conclude the challenges that will stem from this ruling are preferable to a postelection scenario where mail-in votes, received after the statutory deadline, are either intermingled with ballots received on time or invalidated without prior warning."


Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/minnesota-mail-in-ballots/index.html

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Fed appeal court rules mailed ballot must be received by Election Day in MN, cutting weeklong window (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2020 OP
So they know trump slowed the mail but don't give a fuck anyway. onecaliberal Oct 2020 #1
Minnesota Ordered to Segregate Ballots Arriving After Election Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #2
such obvious in our face llashram Oct 2020 #10
Don't they have other races on the ballot? Retrograde Oct 2020 #3
can the legislature whip out a quick law change? nt msongs Oct 2020 #4
MN..if you are listening..DO NOT trust your ballot to the mail! Hand deliver it..don't wait Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #5
Sabotage the PO. Sabotage the ballots. Sabotage voters' rights. keithbvadu2 Oct 2020 #6
Assholes uppityperson Oct 2020 #7
I'm from MN and the local media has been saying over and over again that ballots would be accepted progree Oct 2020 #8
... With Strong Hints Late Arriving Ballots Will Be Excluded from The Count riversedge Oct 2020 #9
Rethugs just bluestarone Oct 2020 #11
But in the recent WI case SCOTUS ruled Fed courts can't tell states how to run their elections. CaptainTruth Oct 2020 #12
Yes, the SCOTUS has rejected suits both sides and opted to let state courts decide Jose Garcia Oct 2020 #14
This will hurt Republicans more than us Polybius Oct 2020 #13
The republicans know that the turd is planning to use Tuesday night vote tallies not_the_one Oct 2020 #15
When Biden is ahead at the end of Tuesday they'll be turning themselves into pretzels trying Vinca Oct 2020 #16

onecaliberal

(32,854 posts)
1. So they know trump slowed the mail but don't give a fuck anyway.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:17 PM
Oct 2020

They said it out loud. I’m so sick of these fucking people.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,970 posts)
2. Minnesota Ordered to Segregate Ballots Arriving After Election
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:25 PM
Oct 2020

(Bloomberg) -- A federal appeals court ordered Minnesota election officials to segregate mail-in ballots that arrive after Nov. 3 in case a future court order requires such votes to be purged from the count.

Republicans are challenging Minnesota’s plan to accept mail-in ballots up to a week after Election Day as long as they’re postmarked by Nov. 3 -- an extension the state put in place to account for an expected flood of absentee voting during the pandemic.

The decision Thursday by the U.S. Court of Appeals in St. Louis is a setback for Democrats, whose nationwide effort to ensure ballots mailed by Election Day get counted has had mixed success, including at the U.S. Supreme Court.

Late-arriving ballots must be “removed from vote totals in the event a final order is entered by a court of competent jurisdiction determining such votes to be invalid or unlawfully counted,” the court said in a 2-1 decision.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/minnesota-ordered-to-segregate-ballots-arriving-after-election/ar-BB1aw9BW?li=BBnbfcQ&ocid=DELLDHP

llashram

(6,265 posts)
10. such obvious in our face
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 11:07 AM
Oct 2020

corruption. And with all the Appellate appointments of RW judges at the Federal level this administration has completed, I am not surprised at this ruling.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
3. Don't they have other races on the ballot?
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:27 PM
Oct 2020

Such as Congress? State and local races? The feds don't have jurisdiction over the latter - how can they tell a state they how to count votes for county dogcatcher or whatever?

progree

(10,907 posts)
8. I'm from MN and the local media has been saying over and over again that ballots would be accepted
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:17 AM
Oct 2020

up to 7 days after election day and counted, if postmarked on or before election day. I monitor Minnesota Public Radio's news website and the CBS and the ABC local affiliates website every damn night. All 3 every damn night. And I looked at the Secretary of State website many times and seen that.

Those of us who have been following things knew this might not turn out to be the case, but 90% of regular people in MN aren't political junkies that follow all the ins and outs of all this crap. We generally believe what we're told when it comes from authoritative sources. I know I know ...

"fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” - GWB

riversedge

(70,214 posts)
9. ... With Strong Hints Late Arriving Ballots Will Be Excluded from The Count
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:42 AM
Oct 2020




#ELB: In Outrageous 2-1 Decision Ignoring Reliance Interests and Rejecting the Purcell Principle, 8th Circuit Panel Orders Segregation of Late Arriving Ballots in Minnesota, With Strong Hints Late Arriving Ballots Will Be Excluded from The Count https://electionlawblog.org/?p=117784


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The pattern we’re seeing here is making it increasingly clear that if there is a Democratic majority in the Senate to go with that in the House, they need to seriously think about dramatically changing the courts. Including taking jurisdiction away.

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CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
12. But in the recent WI case SCOTUS ruled Fed courts can't tell states how to run their elections.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:21 PM
Oct 2020

If that ruling is the precedent, doesn't that make this ruling meaningless? This is a Fed court telling a state how they can/can't run their election.

Seems like this ruling has to come from a State court, not Federal.
 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
15. The republicans know that the turd is planning to use Tuesday night vote tallies
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:32 PM
Oct 2020

to challenge the results as rigged. They know for his scheme to be effective, they need to vote in person on election day. Many states can't start counting mail-in votes until election day, some can't start until after the polls are closed.

Since Democrats are primarily the ones voting by mail, mail-in votes that are postmarked on/by election day, but have been purposely delayed by DeJoy and not received by election offices, at the instruction of the turd, won't get counted in time.

They are slick motherfuckers.

Suits should be filed in every state affected, that CLARIFIES that the turd PURPOSELY fucked with the mail delivery, by hand picking Louis DeJoy to carry out his election obstruction (who should GO TO JAIL for it), making it impossible to be sure every vote that was legally cast and postmarked on or by election day (using the same guidelines as in-person voting) be counted.

The courts should require EVERY VOTE POSTMARKED ON OR BEFORE ELECTION DAY be counted, no matter the date the election offices receive them. The delay was not due, in any way, to action by the voter, but WAS due to purposeful and deliberate road blocks set up by the turd and DeJoy.

THEN start arresting every person who participated in this scheme of election obstruction.

That would at least be a START in dealing with this organized and prearranged clusterfuck.

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
16. When Biden is ahead at the end of Tuesday they'll be turning themselves into pretzels trying
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:24 PM
Oct 2020

to reverse these court decisions. Let's hope Joe gets to 270 and the judges just laugh at them.

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