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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:07 AM Oct 2020

NY AG serves notice to Trump on MSNBC she's coming after him and his family after the election

Source: Raw Story

Appearing on MSNBC on Saturday morning with host Ali Velshi, New York Attorney General Letitia James said her office is proceeding with investigations into Donald Trump and his family whether he wins re-election or not.

According to James, her first concern is making sure there is no election interference in New York on Tuesday, before assuring the MSNBC host that the Justice Department can’t interfere with her when it comes to the Trump Organization and financial improprieties.

“In New York, as you know, we have an investigation against the Trump Organization related to financial impropriety and that investigation is ongoing,” she began. “We will continue that investigation and at this point in time there’s nothing more that I can say other than the fact this they have used every legal attempt to block and deny us information and to witnesses. We filed requests to compel and we were successful. We had the opportunity to question Eric Trump and we are continuing to review all of the documents they have submitted and other witnesses as well — we look forward to questioning them also.”

“To be clear, without telling me any details about the investigation, you are not subject to any other types of rules?” the MSNBC host pressed. “There is no immunity that someone can present the president with that limits your ability to pursue these investigations and put whatever charges forward you see fit. As the attorney general of New York, you’re not governed by the Department of Justice or any federal rules?”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/ny-ag-serves-notice-to-trump-on-msnbc-shes-coming-after-him-and-his-family-after-the-election/




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NY AG serves notice to Trump on MSNBC she's coming after him and his family after the election (Original Post) George II Oct 2020 OP
She says in there that Cohen was a key source BootinUp Oct 2020 #1
Democrats put a phenomenal executive team on the ballot in 2018. lapucelle Oct 2020 #2
Excellent news - put that trump crime family done. nt iluvtennis Oct 2020 #3
Seems like it might have been better to keep this more low key groundloop Oct 2020 #4
Saving the taxpayers money when he flees the country! JCMach1 Oct 2020 #6
Not her style. Didn't she rage against the existence of the NRA, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #30
That there has been an ongoing investigation and that Trump has been trying to block it cstanleytech Oct 2020 #31
Saying stuff like this publicly is not the smartest idea. Calista241 Oct 2020 #5
Agreed. She's making it seem like there's a vendetta. BlueNProud Oct 2020 #9
Post removed Post removed Oct 2020 #25
What instantly stood out to me, very unwise move. appalachiablue Nov 2020 #37
She talks a big game BlueNProud Oct 2020 #7
Yes but Letitia James ... Duppers Oct 2020 #12
Why telegraph a punch BlueNProud Oct 2020 #15
Good pt! Duppers Oct 2020 #20
Everyone knows what she's doing. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #22
This isn't telegraphing anything.... paleotn Oct 2020 #29
Lots of new posters orangecrush Oct 2020 #33
That's interesting. paleotn Oct 2020 #34
The Trump family must pay for their crimes. dalton99a Oct 2020 #8
The NY AG does civil cases only. Criminal prosecutions are handled by DAs. So at best we'll RockRaven Oct 2020 #10
Not in NY Jon King Oct 2020 #11
In an absolute sense, yes they can prosecute some things, but from their own website FAQ: RockRaven Oct 2020 #16
In NY the Governor can direct the AG to investigate and prosecute... Jon King Oct 2020 #18
I disagree w the DU naysayers here. Put every ounce NoMoreRepugs Oct 2020 #13
+100000000 Celerity Oct 2020 #23
Cue the death threats Bayard Oct 2020 #14
Cue the cheating. Cheat big or go home. GOPee. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2020 #24
Cheat big or go to jail.... paleotn Oct 2020 #28
Good. Accountability is on the ballot too Roc2020 Oct 2020 #17
The more psychological pressure that the crime family is put Enoki33 Oct 2020 #19
This is great. James, and other Attorneys General need to GRIND on the Trump PatrickforO Oct 2020 #21
I think, this isn't only a warning to Trump, C Moon Oct 2020 #26
Oh, come on! Don't scare them away so close to the end of the game... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2020 #27
Rt.. TY & Please Watch your Back, AG James! Cha Oct 2020 #32
LOCK THEM UP. milestogo Oct 2020 #35
I agree with her sentiment Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #36
I have no complaints on the timing of whatever this is, or care do you? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #38

BootinUp

(47,136 posts)
1. She says in there that Cohen was a key source
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 AM
Oct 2020

I guess I remember that being clear before. Seems a Trump year ago.

groundloop

(11,517 posts)
4. Seems like it might have been better to keep this more low key
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:38 AM
Oct 2020

In my most humble opinion, it would have been better to keep this under wraps until indictments are issued.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
30. Not her style. Didn't she rage against the existence of the NRA, ...
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:56 PM
Oct 2020

... because some of its officers were corrupt?

She's loud and brash. Now let's see if she can back it up.

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
31. That there has been an ongoing investigation and that Trump has been trying to block it
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

from being able to continue has been well reported already though so it would be kind of pointless to try and keep it low key or under wraps.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
5. Saying stuff like this publicly is not the smartest idea.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:38 AM
Oct 2020

Despite it being what we all want to see happen. The Trumps will just say she's prosecuting them for political reasons, and they'll play recordings of her and others saying this type of stuff ad nauseam.

She can say she's already won the Trump immunity argument, but fighting to get and serve a subpoena is different than trying to prosecute a criminal case.

Trump himself is also insulated by an army of accountants, tax and real estate lawyers. The Trump Org is a major corporation, and has a finance department staffed in the hundreds. Trump just can't call up Deutsch Bank and say a property is worth X, he and his company are going to have to prove properties value before any loans. And it would be extraordinarily suspicious to the bank if Trump himself is delivering those documents to DB. He would have to involve his staff, and they would take the lead on delivering requested documentation. Those types of valuations take months to process. Trump is a big picture guy, the minutiae of those types of things are not something he'd work on.

James appears to base a lot of their case on Michael Cohen's testimony. I have no doubt that if Trump really didn't want Cohen talking, there are ways they could have shut him up.

BlueNProud

(1,048 posts)
9. Agreed. She's making it seem like there's a vendetta.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:59 AM
Oct 2020

If they've committed crimes charge them. Until then keep it shut.

Response to Calista241 (Reply #5)

BlueNProud

(1,048 posts)
7. She talks a big game
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:56 AM
Oct 2020

whats the point in talking? Do what you're gonna do and shut up about it. NY AG been letting this crooked family run rampant for years. I'll believe it when I see it.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
12. Yes but Letitia James ...
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:29 PM
Oct 2020

Has only been AG for 2yrs, since hump has been in office.

We can hope justice will be done.

BlueNProud

(1,048 posts)
15. Why telegraph a punch
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:33 PM
Oct 2020

not holding my breath that dump or his grotesque offspring will ever be wearing orange jumpsuits.

TwilightZone

(25,454 posts)
22. Everyone knows what she's doing.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 01:02 PM
Oct 2020

Especially the Trump administration. Eric Trump was just questioned, for on.

None of this is a secret.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
29. This isn't telegraphing anything....
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:17 PM
Oct 2020

Donnie and the spawn have known for quite some time that state of NY is hot on their asses. The problems to date have been access to evidence, specifically financial records. Can't charge without evidence of crimes. And "I just know he's been up to no good" is not evidence.

RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
10. The NY AG does civil cases only. Criminal prosecutions are handled by DAs. So at best we'll
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:17 PM
Oct 2020

see fines, asset seizures, dissolution of organizations, settlements of the sort we saw with Trump Foundation. At least from her office. They will, of course, share evidence of crimes with the appropriate DA, like Cyrus Vance.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
11. Not in NY
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:27 PM
Oct 2020

In NY the Attorney General can indeed bring criminal cases. Its not that way in all states but it is in NY.

RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
16. In an absolute sense, yes they can prosecute some things, but from their own website FAQ:
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:36 PM
Oct 2020

"In general, the law states that this Office does not have jurisdiction over most criminal matters. The Attorney General prosecutes fraud in the sale of securities, anti-trust violations, the unlicensed practice of a profession, and other types of fraud, when the case is referred to the Attorney General by the head of a State agency."

So I cannot say for certain whether or not any Trump crimes will count as "fraud, when the case is referred to the Attorney General by the head of a State agency" but maybe it will. I doubt the first 3 items in the list will apply.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
18. In NY the Governor can direct the AG to investigate and prosecute...
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:43 PM
Oct 2020

Her office powers are very broad and flexible. NY state law allows the Governor to empower and direct criminal prosecutions to the AG. Also, any powers she does not have can easily be granted through the NY State legislature and sent to the Governor. Powers and laws of NY state can be changed as needed to allow her sufficient powers.

https://ag.ny.gov/bureaus

"While the Attorney General acts independently of the Governor, the Governor or a state agency may request the Attorney General to undertake specific criminal investigations and prosecutions."

Trump family crimes are right up the alley of the NY AG. She can indeed investigate and direct prosecution for crimes related to taxes, fraud, and a whole host of other things.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,401 posts)
13. I disagree w the DU naysayers here. Put every ounce
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:31 PM
Oct 2020

of pressure possible on the RUMP 24/7. The more pressure the more unhinged, if that’s possible, he becomes. His craziness only helps JB and KH IMO.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
28. Cheat big or go to jail....
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 02:13 PM
Oct 2020

Extra incentive, but on the other hand, that just adds to the list of crimes if cheat big doesn't work. Slither off to a country lacking an extradition treaty is still an option. If it were me, plan A, but make sure plan B is sitting on the tarmac with the engine warmed up.

Roc2020

(1,614 posts)
17. Good. Accountability is on the ballot too
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:38 PM
Oct 2020

Let Trump and his cohorts tremble every second until election night...then the judgement.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
19. The more psychological pressure that the crime family is put
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:53 PM
Oct 2020

under the better, and the more the public is reminded of their criminality the better we will be served, especially at this time. Their persecution claim will be inevitable, even if the AG said zero.

PatrickforO

(14,569 posts)
21. This is great. James, and other Attorneys General need to GRIND on the Trump
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 01:00 PM
Oct 2020

family. God knows, there are plenty of potential charges out there, ranging from a quarter million counts of reckless disregard for human life, 545 counts of genocide, over 10,000 counts of crimes against humanity, racketeering, treason, money laundering, etc.

I mean, Trump doesn't need to even try in order to be a corrupt piece of shit. With him it is effortless!

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
26. I think, this isn't only a warning to Trump,
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 01:35 PM
Oct 2020

but also to those planning on breaking election laws. And maybe to get some to come out against Trump—to show he is not above the law.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
27. Oh, come on! Don't scare them away so close to the end of the game...
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 01:55 PM
Oct 2020

... it stinks when that happens. Then we end up just passing the basketball around while the clock winds down...

Miguelito Loveless

(4,458 posts)
36. I agree with her sentiment
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 06:04 PM
Oct 2020

but think it is highly inadvisable to make mentally unstable people feel they must take desperate actions. Especially when a particular mentally unstable monster has nuclear launch codes.

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