Trump Gets Ready to Manufacture an Election Crisis

[JoeOtterbein]

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Source: The Daily Beast

President Donald Trump, his campaign, and his supporters are gearing up to manufacture a political crisis on Election Day.

The president declared at a rally on Sunday that the winner of Tuesday’s presidential contest must be declared by the end of the day—never mind that states routinely take days or even weeks to tally up presidential vote totals and certify official results. The comments came shortly after a report from Axios that the president is planning to preemptively declare himself the winner on Tuesday if early returns from in-person voters, in enough states to give him an electoral college win, appear to be tilting in his direction—even though the full tally of mail-in votes from states, which are expected to more heavily favor Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, will still be out.

Trump denied the report. But in a quick briefing with reporters, he pledged that his team of lawyers would move quickly the night of the election to petition the courts to, ostensibly, challenge the legitimacy of a category of ballots that were mailed in before the end of Election Day but arrived after it was over. Different states have different laws that govern those ballots, but the Supreme Court has already ruled, in several cases, to allow their submission based on the applicability of state laws. Trump called the court’s rulings “terrible.”

“We’re not gonna let that happen to us with these ballots,” he had declared at a campaign stop earlier in the day. “Does this mean we go and we wait, so it’s not Nov. 3, it’s much later than that? We should know the result of the election Nov. 3, the evening of Nov. 3. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it should be.”

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-gets-ready-to-manufacture-a-2020-election-crisis?ref=home

[Blue Owl]

1. Go fuck yourself Trump you miserable asshole

n/t

[iluvtennis]

6. + 1. nt

[dalton99a]

2. Fire the Asshole ASAP.

[dchill]

3. Hey, butthurt, it took George W Bush a month and a half...

...to steal an election.

[JoeOtterbein]

5. ....

...excellent!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. Total number of votes known before the count (voter rolls). So if count doesn't add up, not done

He can't sustain a claim the election is over prematurely.
He can't sustain a claim that ballots were "found" (manufactured) after the election, because it still has to all add up.

[C Moon]

7. I used to think Putin was promising Trump certain states...

but now I believe the problem is that Trump thinks he's more popular than he really is—the sycophants he surrounds himself with are telling him this.

[PutGramaOnThePhone]

8. Interesting n/t

[PatrickforO]

9. He is such an EVIL piece of shit.

When it comes to conceding the election and then leaving the White House when it is time, he will hang on for dear life.

In a nationally embarrassing scene, he will have to be led out by US Marshalls at 12:01 on January 21.

[Ford_Prefect]

10. Constitution says in very plain language that the states make their own rules, processes and timing.

The only deadlines are those set for the EC and for tallies which relate to that. Certification takes various paths and times depending on each state and how it is organized to count, recount and certify. Most states have a process of initial ballot results that must then be reconciled and certified, typically during the week or 2 following election day. This is the period when, if there are challenges or issues to resolve that process will then take place.

Trump's fantasy that there will be material to challenge, or even certified numbers before midnight in states as large as Pennsylvania, disregards how the votes are counted and reconciled and has no bearing on real voting process. He is deliberately conflating the press calling a state or a race won, presumably based on exit polls and previous historical results, with the state board of elections certifying a win, or a loss.

[JudyM]

11. Locking

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