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beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:34 PM Nov 2020

Biden Camp: AOC Won't Be Disappointed by 'Incredibly Progressive and Aggressive' Agenda

Source: National Review

The Biden team is promising that Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) will not be disappointed by the president-elect’s “incredibly progressive and aggressive agenda” once he takes office.

Asked by NBC host Chuck Todd whether the New York progressive would be “disappointed or not when she sees the agenda of the Biden administration in the first six months,” Biden’s campaign communications director Kate Bedingfield answered in the negative.

“No. I think that Vice President Biden campaigned on an incredibly progressive and aggressive agenda,” Bedingfield responded Sunday on NBC. “Take a look, for example, at his climate plan. It’s the boldest, biggest climate plan that’s ever been put forward by a nominee running for president and now a president-elect. He’s going to make good on those commitments. He spent time during this campaign bringing people together around this climate plan.”

“It’s a big, aggressive plan,” she continued. “It’s the perfect example of the kind of big effort that he is going to make to meet this moment and meet these crises we’re in.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-camp-aoc-won-t-174215892.html



Chill, AOC! Joe's got it!
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Biden Camp: AOC Won't Be Disappointed by 'Incredibly Progressive and Aggressive' Agenda (Original Post) beastie boy Nov 2020 OP
We'll see about that True Dough Nov 2020 #1
Yes, one is being manufactured 12 hours after our win. We get that. And Biden, being the adult in LizBeth Nov 2020 #6
Absolutely right! Rebl2 Nov 2020 #17
This is starting to look like 2008 into 2009 all over again. Damn! People seem to forget who won. George II Nov 2020 #21
Purposely. We saw it 2015. I mean, we have done this enough to know what is going on. LizBeth Nov 2020 #24
She could have held off on that WaPo piece. nt eilen Nov 2020 #59
The tug-o-war is in Georgia. Win there, or everything else is moot. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #67
She co-chaired the platform committee on climate, IIRC relayerbob Nov 2020 #2
That's good to hear! David__77 Nov 2020 #3
Stellar Biden. I respect this head line nad literally hearing the mom voice of Pelosi, Harris and LizBeth Nov 2020 #4
If this crap starts before the Georgia runoff redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #5
Not if, it is. Literally before our eyes. As I said above, Biden addressed it. I respect that. Now, LizBeth Nov 2020 #7
Looking at the various threads on twitter, here and elsewhere, there's OnDoutside Nov 2020 #9
They're actually trying to take credit for Biden's win LongtimeAZDem Nov 2020 #13
Wow, opposite world again. nt R B Garr Nov 2020 #32
BUt Biden got more votes than they did in their districts JI7 Nov 2020 #55
You are Rebl2 Nov 2020 #18
lol Lock him up. Nov 2020 #43
Yeah, I really like AOC and agree w most of her position but she needs to chill for awhile. Ligyron Nov 2020 #44
Thats almost exactly what we've already been seeing for the past 4 months. nt oldsoftie Nov 2020 #49
That's why the National Review is writing the article. (eom) StevieM Nov 2020 #45
It is the most progressive agenda of any president who won AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #8
AOC didn't criticize Biden, she warned Dems against accepting Republican narratives Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #10
Biden is right there with her: he is not criticising AOC, he is reassuring her that beastie boy Nov 2020 #16
Democrats don't need warnings or lectures about that. George II Nov 2020 #22
There is an arrogance in feeling a need to "warn" these very experienced, very smart, progressives, LizBeth Nov 2020 #25
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2020 #39
She is warning Dems? Really? stillcool Nov 2020 #29
Jim Clyburn is a Republican now? nycbos Nov 2020 #35
She was responding to a Kasich statement that Dems should move to the right. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #42
I am aware of what Kasich said. nycbos Nov 2020 #66
Does AOC realize she is stoking division? SheltieLover Nov 2020 #11
Many people agree with you. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #15
It is inappropriate, IMO SheltieLover Nov 2020 #19
Yes, as if a certain "brand" is all about this behavior, R B Garr Nov 2020 #34
Absolutely! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #37
Yes. Biden ran such a great campaign . R B Garr Nov 2020 #33
Wait a second...Source : National Review ???? OnDoutside Nov 2020 #12
Apparently, they are reporting on a Chuck Todd interview with Kate Beddingfield, beastie boy Nov 2020 #20
I knew it! ananda Nov 2020 #14
FIRST we need to hang together and work on the 2 Georgia Senate seats. groundloop Nov 2020 #23
Yes! We need to win runoff. Senate Majority first then fine tune agenda and cabinet appointments. BlueWavePsych Nov 2020 #28
Still...eye on the prize stillcool Nov 2020 #26
2008 THIS broke my ❤️ 11/4 Team Obama Left My City poof! OhNo-Really Nov 2020 #27
This is why we absolutely need to win those Georgia seats. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2020 #30
It's time to tell the obstructionist-in-tuRtleland to F off: ENOUGH Lock him up. Nov 2020 #47
It could well be that if we actually get something progressive done we'll be rewarded at the polls bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #31
We've proven that they've lost all the arguments of the last four years. We need to act like ancianita Nov 2020 #51
Yes. They've fumbled everything. Everything. /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #52
Love AOC unconventional Nov 2020 #36
Harris is the most progressive 2016, 17, 19. What are you talking about? LizBeth Nov 2020 #40
Biden is Progressive but he got Elected Cha Nov 2020 #64
Good Bettie Nov 2020 #38
Yes! burrowowl Nov 2020 #57
Don't AOC the Christians that belive in redemption... KWR65 Nov 2020 #41
SHARING MY TWEET..... yuiyoshida Nov 2020 #46
Then she's having the effect zentrum Nov 2020 #48
Thanks for reaching out, Joe, AND Kamala... n/t Lock him up. Nov 2020 #50
I was ready to rec until I saw your last... JoeOtterbein Nov 2020 #53
Fair enough. I can tolerate a healthy dose of rejection. But I see nothing in my post that beastie boy Nov 2020 #62
Agreed nt JoeOtterbein Nov 2020 #63
Underwood is undoubtedly our brightest and most effective. murielm99 Nov 2020 #65
I'm not sure that is her goal JI7 Nov 2020 #54
I'm not certain what Sean Connery has to do with this analogy? Capt. America Nov 2020 #56
Yes she will whistler162 Nov 2020 #58
Trump is our enemy, folks. I suggest we remain firmly united and fully Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #60
Biden's team is right DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #61
If Biden thinks his agenda will satisfy AOC Steelrolled Nov 2020 #68
Rec Good news make it so lunasun Nov 2020 #69

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. Yes, one is being manufactured 12 hours after our win. We get that. And Biden, being the adult in
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:44 PM
Nov 2020

the room addressed.

Rebl2

(13,492 posts)
17. Absolutely right!
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:02 PM
Nov 2020

Please, he isn’t in office yet. Give him a little time in office before you start tearing in to him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. This is starting to look like 2008 into 2009 all over again. Damn! People seem to forget who won.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:13 PM
Nov 2020

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
24. Purposely. We saw it 2015. I mean, we have done this enough to know what is going on.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:24 PM
Nov 2020

And Biden, I am sure Harris, Pelosi and HRC if she was in conversation and every one of us addressing Sanders participation in our party, know what is happening and Biden is saying, Gotcha. We will get there.

And while having this conversation, btw, Harris is THE most progressive so don't be so damn condescending about it. We will talk, and maybe in between the talking you can see we are doing.

Adding: It was brought up 2012 by Sanders. Putting out feelers to see if he would get support going after Obama. Didn't happen.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
67. The tug-o-war is in Georgia. Win there, or everything else is moot.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

I don't believe that any Dems are so "Centrist" that they are climate deniers. I just don't see these battles brewing, except in the fevered brains of TV execs trying to drum up ratings.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. Stellar Biden. I respect this head line nad literally hearing the mom voice of Pelosi, Harris and
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:43 PM
Nov 2020

HRC. That is a cool headline. Truly I enjoyed it and made me laugh. All in good time, grasshopper. Or some such, lol.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
5. If this crap starts before the Georgia runoff
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:43 PM
Nov 2020

we can say goodbye to winning those seats. We cannot break off into factions with the far left making demands and win a state like Georgia. Just keep your powder dry for a couple of months at least. I know AOC needs some air time but just old off a little bit and let us try to get the Senate. If we don't, we will not see any progressive policies passed.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
7. Not if, it is. Literally before our eyes. As I said above, Biden addressed it. I respect that. Now,
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:45 PM
Nov 2020

yes, Georgia everyone. Exactly.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
9. Looking at the various threads on twitter, here and elsewhere, there's
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:52 PM
Nov 2020

an air of coordination in the attacks on Joe, and other moderates.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
44. Yeah, I really like AOC and agree w most of her position but she needs to chill for awhile.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:47 PM
Nov 2020

Otherwise, the commercials in Georgia practically write themselves. "Liberal Jon Ossoff supports radical, far left ideas and policies like those of crazy, tax raising Socialist AOC."

Just what we don't need right now.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
10. AOC didn't criticize Biden, she warned Dems against accepting Republican narratives
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:53 PM
Nov 2020

Such as those asserted by Kasia Re: Dems should be moving to the right and not being too progressive.

beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
16. Biden is right there with her: he is not criticising AOC, he is reassuring her that
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:00 PM
Nov 2020

she is not only being heard, but also being listened to.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
25. There is an arrogance in feeling a need to "warn" these very experienced, very smart, progressives,
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:30 PM
Nov 2020

you think? This has progressed in the past to a confrontive conversation about us against you. That is what we are addressing. Consistently with Sanders I know, his supporters walk in and tell us what he really means, by his words. Telling us they do not mean what the words mean. Interesting.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
35. Jim Clyburn is a Republican now?
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:49 PM
Nov 2020

On CNN this morning he said the defund the police cost us seats in the house.

I support a progressive agenda not stupid slogans that could have cost us the election.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
66. I am aware of what Kasich said.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:32 PM
Nov 2020

The police rhetoric on the far left from folks like the DSA which is cost us down-ballot big. We don't have the Senate which means we're not gonna be able to take action on things like climate change and making the wealthy pay more in taxes. We thought we were going to flip legislative chambers but we didn't which means more gerrymandering.


As Jim Clyburn said let's make headway instead of headlines.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. Does AOC realize she is stoking division?
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:55 PM
Nov 2020

And that President Biden does not answer to her?

She is behaving like a child, imo.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
19. It is inappropriate, IMO
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:05 PM
Nov 2020

Especially at this time before runoffs. We need all hands on deck, not someone publicly calling our new, and quite competent President-Elect out publicly.

If the were in the business world rather than elected, she would be terminated quickly and blackballed for life.

I like her most of the time, but this is not ok imo.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
37. Absolutely!
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:59 PM
Nov 2020

She is young & has not yet learned that we must appeal to the big tent & things change veeeeerrrry slowly.

Even still, one would think she would have better sense than to publicly attack Joe & be issuing ultimatums.

She might have a bright future if she is able to learn proper decorum.

She was just reelected a few days ago & is now talking about no longer wanting to be in politics? Makes her appear to be flakey, imo.

Perhaps her base and colleagues thought "good riddance" when this story broke.

I hope she learns quickly to not sow discord with such divisive public comments.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
33. Yes. Biden ran such a great campaign .
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:35 PM
Nov 2020

This divisiveness has no place in it. The election results for many years now don’t support it.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
14. I knew it!
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 05:59 PM
Nov 2020

I could tell from Joe's powerful speech last night
that the presidency is in excellent hands!

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
23. FIRST we need to hang together and work on the 2 Georgia Senate seats.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:22 PM
Nov 2020

Without control of the Senate we're going to be able to accomplish far less than with it (obviously).

I think to some extent news organizations are going out of their way to find a story which they claim shows Democrats in disarray.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
27. 2008 THIS broke my ❤️ 11/4 Team Obama Left My City poof!
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 06:45 PM
Nov 2020

AOC addressed my pent up disappointment this weekend

She said:

“There’s a reason Obama built an entire nat’l campaign apparatus outside of the DNC.

And there’s a reason that,

*when he didn’t activate or continue that*

WE LOST THE HOUSE in 2010”
End quote

And because the roots we built in 2008 disappeared we lost contact with the ppl we worked our asses off. The cell phone numbers we had to contact them went dead. We were swept in, worked around the clock, thought we had a national team to work with and it just went dark. I cried. I worked to put together a huge 2010 DC rally and same thing. The national team went dark after the event.

Candidate & rally teams can’t go dark. How can we maintain cohesiveness?

How can the national help us red state Dems build the party. We need connectivity & we have the tools.

I feel isolated. I want a team.

Venting

Read her editorial
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/07/us/politics/aoc-biden-progressives.html?searchResultPosition=1

30. This is why we absolutely need to win those Georgia seats.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:12 PM
Nov 2020

The GOP is already making the argument that they just have to be held by Republicans to put a check on Biden's "radical-left agenda." And Lindsey Graham is promising to approve Biden's cabinet appointees if they're "qualified" (i.e., fit within the Republican plan for the country). When I read that the appointees had to be qualified I almost spit my milk out my nose. This is coming from a man who voted to approve every single Trump/McConnell judicial appointee -- even those with no trial experience or who were rated as "unqualified" by the American Bar Association.

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
47. It's time to tell the obstructionist-in-tuRtleland to F off: ENOUGH
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:01 PM
Nov 2020
We've GOT a MANDATE of over 4 MILLION MORE VOTES to FIX the DAMAGES Reagan staRted and fux $nooze pRopagandized until an unfit conman, with unfounded conspiracy theories, a cRiminal Fascist (even an alleged rapist running away from providing DNA samples...) got elected using FALSE accusations without ANY evidence on BOTH President Obama and Secretary Clinton:

It's TIME to enact what the clear MAJORITY of voters WANT: Fix the pandemic and healthcare, infrastructure, create new well-paying jobs in green techs (the way to the FUTURE), tax the uber wealthy who loot the Treasury since the bu$h tax cuts up to a staggering 4 TRILLION DEFICIT (anyone wonder WHY the IRS sent a $72 Million check to the tax-cheat-in-chief??).

ENOUGH WITH THE DEADBEAT CROOKED RWs. Use EOs to enact all good things for the middle-class to REBUILD IT and they'll vote for ya.

LOCK.HIM.UP


bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
31. It could well be that if we actually get something progressive done we'll be rewarded at the polls
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 07:16 PM
Nov 2020

But find me a way past another 2010 or 2016, because all the Republican naysayers and trash experts will be on duty again

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
51. We've proven that they've lost all the arguments of the last four years. We need to act like
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:43 PM
Nov 2020

everything they say is TrumpTrash. Every day from now on.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
64. Biden is Progressive but he got Elected
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:56 AM
Nov 2020

President across the Country with 75 million votes.. he will be the whole country's president.. Not just those in a super blue district.

First he had to get elected. There's only one President and that's Joe Biden. He sets the tone.. not anyone else.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
53. I was ready to rec until I saw your last...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:15 PM
Nov 2020

...sentence.

In fact, I would say that the last thing we should do now is stopping one of our brightest representatives.

beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
62. Fair enough. I can tolerate a healthy dose of rejection. But I see nothing in my post that
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

would even hint at stopping anyone from doing or saying anything. As a matter of fact, it is all about one of our brightest representatives (Biden) lending support to another one of our brightest representatives (AOC), at the time she expressed her doubts about having his support. And that is the first thing we should do, above all else. Wouldn't you agree?

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
65. Underwood is undoubtedly our brightest and most effective.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:24 PM
Nov 2020

And right now, she is engaged in a huge battle to keep her seat. The opposition knows she is a rising star, so they have targeted her.

The first job of any Congress person is to represent and work for her constituents. I do not see AOC doing that. She is always running around, making public statements, posing in expensive clothing for magazine covers, etc. She should be home, working the phones in her office, if she has one, and working in D.C. She is in a secure district and does not see how other districts differ from hers.

And she is a progressive? By whose definition? It seems that everyone has their own definition for the term "progressive." She says she is a socialist as well. By whose definition? I don't see how she can be both. She needs to decide what she is. If she wants to be a socialist, we have a socialist party. Maybe she could look into joining them.

She shot off her mouth about Conor Lamb and she was wrong. I am glad that she has not interfered in the elections of Underwood and Bustos. The two districts are very different, even though they are both in Illinois. Underwood's district leans republican, but demographics are changing that. Bustos' district is purple, with a strong element of blue collar and socially conservative Democrats. Usually, she wins her district by 20%. This time she had to fight, because she was targeted.

I am not that far from Iowa. We own property there. People there were turned off by the AOC meddling in that Senate election. Greenwood should have won.

We had a very liberal candidate for Congress in my district. She lost, as expected in this red district. I did a lot of work for her. At one point, I spoke to her campaign manager. I explained to him that the activists here are more to the left than the voters we work so hard to persuade. I told him AOC was very polarizing here, and it might be a good idea to downplay AOC's endorsement. Put her name in a list of endorsers, but do not highlight it.

AOC needs to grow up. She needs to gain a great deal more experience and grow into a leadership role. She needs to learn to temper her words and educate herself about the big tent nature of our party. Perhaps she could follow the example of Mayor Pete.



 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
58. Yes she will
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:47 AM
Nov 2020

I get the feeling she would complain if she got the biggest piece of cake at someone else's birthday party.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
60. Trump is our enemy, folks. I suggest we remain firmly united and fully
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:07 AM
Nov 2020

focused on one thing, and one thing only:

getting that filthy orange ratfucking cockroach out of our house.

Everything else is moot until we fully quarantine the fascist monster that is attempting to overthrow our democratic United States government.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
61. Biden's team is right
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 10:29 AM
Nov 2020

They do have a very progressive agenda. I suspect Biden now sees himself in the same mold as FDR, a transformational president, not just a transitional one of the older to younger generations.

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