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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:27 PM Nov 2020

Snell & Wilmer withdraws from election lawsuit as Trump contests Arizona results

Source: Reuters

The largest law firm representing the Trump campaign or its allies in post-election litigation challenging votes in key states has withdrawn from an election lawsuit in Maricopa County, Arizona.

Associate Presiding Civil Judge Daniel Kiley on Tuesday granted Snell & Wilmer’s request to withdraw as counsel of record for the Republican National Committee. The RNC had teamed-up with the Trump campaign and the Arizona Republican Party in the case, which alleges that Maricopa County incorrectly rejected some votes cast on Election Day.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/snell-maricopa-idUSL1N2HY005

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Snell & Wilmer withdraws from election lawsuit as Trump contests Arizona results (Original Post) sabra Nov 2020 OP
I won't call 'em rats cause I don't know of this firm, but ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #1
It is not only rats that flee a sinking ship. TomSlick Nov 2020 #2
TY Cha Nov 2020 #5
Lawyers and rats! murielm99 Nov 2020 #9
Lawyers *are* rats. Vdizzle Nov 2020 #21
You have noted how many lawyers are on DU - right? TomSlick Nov 2020 #25
Lol. Yes. I know. Vdizzle Nov 2020 #26
C'mon. murielm99 Nov 2020 #28
Misogynous jokes and ethnic jokes are also common, fortunately less so these days. TomSlick Nov 2020 #34
Nonsense DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #14
Nonsense? TomSlick Nov 2020 #17
yes, they should have known better that any association with such a crooked administration would onetexan Nov 2020 #22
a day after the case was filed stillcool Nov 2020 #3
A prompt withdrawal suggests the attorneys is being told to advance perjured testimony. TomSlick Nov 2020 #18
Excellent point grantcart Nov 2020 #19
Interesting..... thanks for the education groundloop Nov 2020 #20
If the judge refuses to relieve the lawyer, TomSlick Nov 2020 #24
TY for this insight Hekate Nov 2020 #30
Really insightful observation Mike 03 Nov 2020 #31
thank you so much. stillcool Nov 2020 #36
poor pitiful wounded rogue elephant Cha Nov 2020 #4
COOL Leghorn21 Nov 2020 #6
That had to hurt. Ouch. Cartaphelius Nov 2020 #7
Not expecting RNC to pay. James48 Nov 2020 #8
Same thing DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #16
TomSlick's explanation makes more sense. If being paid was why they resigned, 3Hotdogs Nov 2020 #23
Trump jeans!?!?!?!? jayschool2013 Nov 2020 #10
trump's claims of fraud is a BIG FAT NOTHING BURGER. nt iluvtennis Nov 2020 #11
interesting Kali Nov 2020 #12
Me too! Small world! Only it was just a few years ago for me and.. StarryNite Nov 2020 #29
Trump stank sets in fast, not so easy to wash out though flibbitygiblets Nov 2020 #13
Beat me to it pfitz59 Nov 2020 #27
Did somebody's check bounce? progressoid Nov 2020 #15
Does anyone know if there is a way to read the Snell & Wilmer filing Mike 03 Nov 2020 #32
It probably dawned on them that their professional reputation was at stake Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #33
Yeah! Another nail on Drumpf's coffin! BlueWavePsych Nov 2020 #35
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. I won't call 'em rats cause I don't know of this firm, but ...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:32 PM
Nov 2020

There is definitely fleeing, and definitely a sinking ship in this story ...

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
2. It is not only rats that flee a sinking ship.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:39 PM
Nov 2020

Lawyers concerned with sanctions for frivolous lawsuits will also do so.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
25. You have noted how many lawyers are on DU - right?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:51 AM
Nov 2020

You really do not want to be Dick the Butcher? He is not the hero of the play.

Vdizzle

(383 posts)
26. Lol. Yes. I know.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:19 AM
Nov 2020

I was referring to those that are defending he who must not be named. The ones here are the good ones. I probably didn’t clarify very well. My apologies to the ethical practitioners of law on here that may have been offended.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
28. C'mon.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:48 AM
Nov 2020

Lawyer jokes are common. The preceding posts opened the door for them.

We all know there are good lawyers. Lighten up.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
34. Misogynous jokes and ethnic jokes are also common, fortunately less so these days.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:42 PM
Nov 2020

I am also not accepting of such jokes.

DENVERPOPS

(8,809 posts)
14. Nonsense
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:05 AM
Nov 2020

They just figured out that they don't have a chance in hell of being paid, even if they win.....LOL

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
17. Nonsense?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:14 AM
Nov 2020

I will grant you that judges are typically overly hesitant to impose sanctions but it does occur.

Good lawyers and even bad lawyers who hope to maintain their practice want to avoid Rule 11 sanctions.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
22. yes, they should have known better that any association with such a crooked administration would
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:29 AM
Nov 2020

sully their law firm's good reputation. Best to stay away from the cryptonite.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
3. a day after the case was filed
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:40 PM
Nov 2020

is that a normal thing?

Snell & Wilmer partners Brett Johnson and Eric Spencer first moved to withdraw on Sunday, a day after the case was filed. Johnson and Spencer did not respond to requests for comment. Snell & Wilmer chairman Matthew Feeney said the firm doesn't comment on its client work.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
18. A prompt withdrawal suggests the attorneys is being told to advance perjured testimony.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:24 AM
Nov 2020

A lawyer may not put a witnesses on the stand they know will commit perjury. Then again, the lawyer does not want to (in some jurisdictions, may not) tell the judge the witness is going to commit perjury. The remedy is a motion to be relieved as counsel - the judge knows what that means - and the lawyer is released.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
24. If the judge refuses to relieve the lawyer,
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:44 AM
Nov 2020

the next step is a vague, open-ended direct examination - like, "OK, Mr. Witness, what do you have to say."

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
31. Really insightful observation
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:13 AM
Nov 2020

Thanks.

Wondering aloud: Will the suit itself be withdrawn, or will other lawyers take over?

Could there be perjured testimony in the lawsuit filing itself?

James48

(4,435 posts)
8. Not expecting RNC to pay.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:05 PM
Nov 2020

I guess the RNC’s association with Trump jeans they won’t pay their lawyers either. Who wants to work for Trump when they know they won’t get paid?

DENVERPOPS

(8,809 posts)
16. Same thing
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:07 AM
Nov 2020

All the banks in the U.S. wouldn't lend him money

and coming soon, none of the legal firms will take his cases......

3Hotdogs

(12,370 posts)
23. TomSlick's explanation makes more sense. If being paid was why they resigned,
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:44 AM
Nov 2020

everybody has known for years that if Trump or his campaign hire you, you don't get paid.

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
29. Me too! Small world! Only it was just a few years ago for me and..
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:16 AM
Nov 2020

he wasn't at that firm at the time but he's with them now. The one I was working with is a actually good guy.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
32. Does anyone know if there is a way to read the Snell & Wilmer filing
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:17 AM
Nov 2020

online? I want to see the lawsuit.

Vivienne235729

(3,383 posts)
33. It probably dawned on them that their professional reputation was at stake
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:19 AM
Nov 2020

And this nonsense wasn't worth it. Plus, they probably don't want to get stuck w the bill likeneveryone else.

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