Trump Floats Improbable Survival Scenarios as He Ponders His Future

[brooklynite]

Source: New York Times

At a meeting on Wednesday at the White House, President Trump had something he wanted to discuss with his advisers, many of whom have told him his chances of succeeding at changing the results of the 2020 election are thin as a reed.

He then proceeded to press them on whether Republican legislatures could pick pro-Trump electors in a handful of key states and deliver him the electoral votes he needs to change the math and give him a second term, according to people briefed on the discussion.

It was not a detailed conversation, or really a serious one, the people briefed on it said. Nor was it reflective of any obsessive desire of Mr. Trump’s to remain in the White House.

“He knows it’s over,” one adviser said. But instead of conceding, they said, he is floating one improbable scenario after another for staying in office while he contemplates his uncertain post-presidency future.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/us/politics/trump-future.html

[Rorey]

1. It wasn't a serious conversation, say his people?

His enablers know damned well that he was serious. This is, after all, the idiot who was telling people to ingest/inject disinfectants to keep from getting the virus.

[Silver1]

20. If they could get away with it, they would do it.

[Rorey]

25. No doubt!

kind of a colossally stupid move to piss off the majority.

[pandr32]

40. Absolutely!

His people have become numb to it, that's all. Enablers, and complicit--every one of them.

[Cosmocat]

2. BHO was pilloried for wearing a tan suit and eating dijon mustard

by the same people who at best shrug off, and at worst indulge this kind of horribleness.

Poor Trumpy Bear, just has to work through losing by free associating dictatorship.

[panfluteman]

3. What About Having a Russian Oligarch Come in His Private Jet

To whisk Trump and his family off to Moscow on January 19? Dos vedanya, baby (traitor tot, to be more precise).

[FailureToCommunicate]

5. I hope that doesn't happen. The FBI can be pretty good at snagging criminals on the run...

or on the runway.

Trump and family MUST be held accountable for their assorted and sordid crimes, or the big takeaway for like minded tin pot dictators here and elsewhere would be that if you're rich or popular enough you get away scot-free. Riding into the sunset unpunished and unrepentant for your evil deeds.

Lock 'em (all) up.

[NYC Liberal]

7. Pretty sure Putin doesn't have a need for him anymore.

Why would he help him out? He'll be a loser in massive debt with no power.

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. Putin already wiped his ass with Trumpy-Boy.

What's next for President Pennywise?

[DENVERPOPS]

38. Putin

would want to pump him for any top secret stuff he might know.

Then send Trump and his spawn to the gulag.

[lagomorph777]

23. Really his only option - he needs to start packing and placing the phone calls now.

...and quit wasting time on fantasies.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Feeding delusions of grandeur for 7 decades is very tiring especially with such grand failures

dementia, kick it up a notch!

[33taw]

8. His latest lawsuits say otherwise. He is trying to get Michigan to hold back Detroit votes and

WI to hold back Madison and Milwaukee.

[Tiger8]

9. I thought this was from The Onion....

...until I saw it was NYT and realized Trump is insane.

[70sEraVet]

12. Its just like 'The Truman Show'

Except OUR lives have been written by The Onion!

[backroadblast]

10. Can't I just cheat?

that is a lot of words to describe his intention...

[D23MIURG23]

28. +1

thank you. "Improbable survival scenarios" my ass. Traitor tot is dumbfounded that hes found a game that wont let him cheat out a win.

[dalton99a]

37. +1

[NoMoreRepugs]

11. Is MSM going to devote 25% of the energy they spend covering every fart the Orange Turd blows

once President-elect Biden takes office with his 5MILLION vote majority????

[Auggie]

13. Like Hitler, in the bunker, fighting WWII with armies that no longer existed

[steve2470]

22. bingo nt

[lagomorph777]

24. Yep. And then either (a) taking the black pill or (b) fleeing to Argentina

...depending on who you believe.

[Moostache]

43. I prefer an ending for Trumpy Bear like this:

That piece of shit has damaged so many families (including my own) through this hideous mismanagement of COVID-19 that he owes a debt of suffering that can never be repaid. But we can sure as hell try to get some justice for the departed and their grieving families.

Fuck you Trump, I hope you rot in Hell.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Birtherism? Electorism.

Trump just morphs one form of illegitimacy into another.

[Thekaspervote]

15. I bet that argument would go will with SCOTUS...I didn't win, but....

[Turin_C3PO]

16. What is his argument?

The article has a paywall and I can't read it.

[Thekaspervote]

18. I cannot read it either, I was just extrapolating that the final argument would be let me cheat

[Turin_C3PO]

19. Undoubtedly.

That's basically the core of the argument. He's like a 4 year old sore loser.

[not_the_one]

34. You think they wouldn't consider it?

The SC has already ruled that the elections, and how they are run, are a STATE matter, and if a state is ok with voter suppression and gerrymandering, so be it.

It would take repubussian state legislatures seconds to jump on this train. And if they think it would work, they will.

It is his last ditch effort. The question is how many will go along...

But... Are there any legislatures that are controlled by democrats, yet the state voted for the turd? Couldn't those democratic legislatures do the same thing?

Regardless, be prepared.

edit to add... What was I thinking? Democrats refuse to play by the same rules republicans play by. We MUST take the high road, even if NO one else is using it, and it leads off a cliff. BUT we CAN sneer contemptuously as we walk around with our nose in the air. As losers.

[JDC]

17. That conversation sounds pretty serious to me

Since when has trump shrugged off anything but the responsibilities of office?

[highplainsdem]

21. Trump allies like Mark Levin have been talking about this possibility for over a month, viewing it

as their insurance policy.

[Midnight Writer]

46. Exactly. The President has been listening to Hate Radio and FOX News. He's not in the real world.

[Binkie The Clown]

26. I know a guy who is very much like Trump in many ways.

Thinks he's a brilliant businessman, but has had nothing but one failure after another in the 40+ years I've known him. He always has the next big deal in the works. He wasn't born rich, so naturally he never became rich. Now, in his late 70s, he's decided to launch a "worldwide foundation" to educate businesses on how to deal with a changing world. He's got this flashy website where he bills himself as some kind of world renowned philanthropist. He's so full of himself you wouldn't believe it if it weren't for the fact that you've seen it in Trump.

He'll talk you ear off for hours at a time about how he's going to change the world. I'm his age and happily retired, but he's going to save the world, just like he was going to do 40 years a go when I first knew him. But the strange thing is, he's a really likeable guy. I enjoy his company. But he's as big a delusional narcissist as Trump. But still, a nice guy.

In a way I feel sorry for him, and I suppose that in a way I might also feel sorry for Trump if he hadn't done so much damage with his delusions.

[KPN]

31. Ha. Sounds sort of like a brother of mine. I assume

he is also a tRumper like my brother. I wonder how many of these folks are out there, and how many support tRump because they admire his “success”?

[Binkie The Clown]

35. Ironically, my narcissist friend is a liberal Democrat. nt

[Wounded Bear]

27. Like Hitler in the bunker...

ordering imaginary armies around maps of the Vaterland.

[KPN]

30. They've been using that same reasoning daily

for the past 4 years: “it wasn’t a serious conversation.” The only purpose it has served is salving their consciences and maybe reassuring the stupidly naive (which apparently includes most of the press).

[JohnnyRingo]

32. If he knows it's over....

...he should concede and then ponder his post-presidency future.
It would certainly show some class and salvage what's left of his shaded legacy.

[benld74]

33. He 'knows its over'? BUT nobody told him as much,,,WHY!? Chicken butts all of them

[bucolic_frolic]

36. Good question, WHY!?

His most egregious errors brought nothing but silence. No comment. Haven't seen or read a thing.

Compromised in some way. Beholden in some way. In on the campaign cash in some way. Worshipping money and greed, it is a Republican thing after all. Just a flock of crooks.

[progree]

39. I don't blame him. If the radical left takes over, they will burn down the cities and make us say

"Happy Holidays"

(sarcasm)

[usaf-vet]

41. Let me help "while he contemplates his uncertain post-presidency future." I see it as simple.....

..... lawsuits, judges, juries, bankruptcy, begging for money, no gold toilets, and finally PRISON. That's bad news!

The good news is you will have lots of company. First family members then of course your appointed grifters.

[Happy Hoosier]

42. The problem for Trump is the humiliation.

He never really wanted to be President. He wanted the prestige and the perception of power, and the sycophants. He discovered he can use the position to protect himself, which is a problem, because being someone who never thinks scenarios out, he is now in the position of losing that protection.

Usually at this point, he'd pay some folks some hush money, declare victory and move on to the next scam. But he can't do that this time....

[joanbarnes]

44. He could try injecting bleach....

[barbtries]

45. and they all coddle him and feed his delusions,

after which they scurry away to leak the whole story.

jeezus. not a single one of them with the courage to hit him up with facts.