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groundloop

(11,518 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:33 AM Nov 2020

'It's critical' for Republican leaders to explain to voters Trump lost the election: John Bolton

Source: ABC News

John Bolton, President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, said Sunday that leaders of the Republican Party should explain to their voters that Trump lost the election and that his claims of fraud are baseless.

"Now the Trump campaign is doing the legal equivalent of pitching pennies," Bolton said on ABC's "This Week." "I think as every day goes by, it's clearer and clearer, there isn't any evidence."

"But if the Republican voters are only hearing Donald Trump's misrepresentations, it's not surprising that they believe it," he added. "It's critical for other Republican leaders to stand up and explain what actually happened. Donald Trump lost what -- by any evidence we have so far -- was a free and fair election."

President-elect Joe Biden is currently projected to win 306 electoral votes compared to the president's 232. Trump continues to challenge the election results in court.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/critical-republican-leaders-explain-voters-trump-lost-election/story?id=74210290&cid=clicksource_4380645_1_heads_hero_live_hero_hed

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'It's critical' for Republican leaders to explain to voters Trump lost the election: John Bolton (Original Post) groundloop Nov 2020 OP
Jeez, just show them the fucking map already! BIden 306, odioustrump 232 RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2020 #1
"The Map" or The Results" ? When they look at the map... reACTIONary Nov 2020 #11
We should seek the advice of all who think they can engage MAGA delusions bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #2
There are no Republicans anymore Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #3
Trump supporters (MAGAts) will not concede until Trump concedes and even then Arkansas Granny Nov 2020 #4
It is clear to me that tRump will never concede the election robbob Nov 2020 #13
The Republican Party has gladly joined Trump in fulfilling Putin's goal of destroying democracy. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2020 #15
John Bolton lost any credibility when he refused to testify in the impeachment hearings. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #5
Wait til the people find out what REALLY happened in the 2016 election Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #6
When you create a monster it doesn't necessarily listen to you Ohioboy Nov 2020 #7
No doubt he is scared of Dump's threats national security will upset the military industrial complex The Genealogist Nov 2020 #8
My thoughts exactly! LeftInTX Nov 2020 #9
And this from one of the craziest republicans ever. JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #10
We live in strange times when Bolton sounds like the voice of reason Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #12
Mr. Biden implied that he might want to have some Republicans in administration HermitageHermit Nov 2020 #14
I don't think that President Biden will take Bolton on. He's got a very hard right track record. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #18
Bolton protected Trump during impeachment. Now he wants OTHERS to act! Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #16
The magas aren't going to listen to Mitt Romney... nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #17
They need to explain it to Trump Yeehah Nov 2020 #19
Have the Trumpsters called Bolton a 'disgruntled employee' yet? keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #20
They'll keep denying reality and and attack Bolton sakabatou Nov 2020 #21

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
11. "The Map" or The Results" ? When they look at the map...
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 12:37 PM
Nov 2020

... they see lot of red surface area with some blue around the edges...

I've had to explain more than once that its PEOPLE that count, not acres!

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
2. We should seek the advice of all who think they can engage MAGA delusions
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:45 AM
Nov 2020

but John Bolton thinks they will listen to reason from one of their own?

Good luck

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
4. Trump supporters (MAGAts) will not concede until Trump concedes and even then
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:52 AM
Nov 2020

they will insist the election was rigged. No amount of fact and reason will ever convince them otherwise.

robbob

(3,527 posts)
13. It is clear to me that tRump will never concede the election
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 02:52 PM
Nov 2020

in the sense of saying that Joe Biden won. His concession, when it comes, will be a litany of petty grievances concluding with acknowledging Biden as the next president of the USA, but only because of massive fraud and cheating. The amount of damage this will cause the republic is of no concern to him whatsoever. He will go to his grave claiming he and his rabid followers were cheated out of a second term, absent any proof or evidence to back up that claim. And the ReThug party led by Mitch will offer no comment on those claims...

15. The Republican Party has gladly joined Trump in fulfilling Putin's goal of destroying democracy.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 06:38 PM
Nov 2020

They could give a shit about the security of the United States. Just hand it over to Putin. Hell, if Trump declassifies everything related to the Russia investigation he's literally killing our intel sources in Russia.

They could give a shit about the 150,000 people who are infected with COVID each day, or the quarter million who have died from the disease.

They only care about power, and see Trump as the means to acquiring and maintaining it.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
5. John Bolton lost any credibility when he refused to testify in the impeachment hearings.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:56 AM
Nov 2020

Trump supporters took that decision as Bolton’s belief that Trump had done nothing wrong. Had Bolton testified, others might have as well, perhaps even forcing the Senate to hold something other than a sham trial. Bribing a foreign power is impeachable. Bolton had the opportunity to verify that crime and refused to do so. He needs to shut up and go away. No one listens to him now.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
7. When you create a monster it doesn't necessarily listen to you
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 11:25 AM
Nov 2020

The monster is the mob base that loves them some Trump. Look at how the mob has now turned on FOX after the network dared to call a state for Biden.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
8. No doubt he is scared of Dump's threats national security will upset the military industrial complex
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

Those big beautiful bucks flowing like water to that sector might be in danger! Not that he is wrong that Dumpster needs to stop acting a fool, but I am quite sure of his reason for saying this.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
9. My thoughts exactly!
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 11:43 AM
Nov 2020

Or he's just afraid that an if there is not a smooth transition, it leaves the US vulnerable.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
10. And this from one of the craziest republicans ever.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 12:28 PM
Nov 2020

It shows just how far off the fringe Trump has driven the bus.
Who's next, Grover Norquist or Newt Gingrich?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
12. We live in strange times when Bolton sounds like the voice of reason
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 01:57 PM
Nov 2020

Much of the rest of the GOP has descended into alternative reality.

HermitageHermit

(42 posts)
14. Mr. Biden implied that he might want to have some Republicans in administration
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 03:39 PM
Nov 2020

About 2 weeks before the election.

Bolton might be lobbying for such a position, just thinking. There is always a reason.

I am sure that Bolton would be pleased to accept Ambassador to the UN.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
18. I don't think that President Biden will take Bolton on. He's got a very hard right track record.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 08:43 PM
Nov 2020

Bolton isn't a moderate by any stretch. He's a war dog.
He pushed the Iraq War. He worked for Reagan and Dubya.
He hates the UN, to which he was our ambassador at one time.

Keep this guy out of your Cabinet, Mr. President !

Yeehah

(4,585 posts)
19. They need to explain it to Trump
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 09:24 PM
Nov 2020

Big fat baby can't seem to understand he lost and throwing a hissy fit won't change it.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
20. Have the Trumpsters called Bolton a 'disgruntled employee' yet?
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 09:27 PM
Nov 2020

Have the Trumpsters called Bolton a 'disgruntled employee' yet?

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