If Joe Biden enacts mask mandates, lockdowns, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem won't enforce them

[brooklynite]

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Source: Sioux Fall Argus-Leader

President-elect Joe Biden has floated a nationwide lockdown and mask mandate in response to surging coronavirus cases across the country.

But even if he follows through and orders all Americans to stay at home and cover their faces when in public, don't expect to see those mandates enforced in South Dakota.

The office of Gov. Kristi Noem said in a statement to the Argus Leader Friday that the first-term governor, who's risen to stardom in the Republican party for her hands-off approach to managing the pandemic, has no intention of using state resources to enforce any federal COVID-19 orders.

"It's a good day for freedom. Joe Biden realizes that the president doesn't have the authority to institute a mask mandate," said Ian Fury, communications specialist for Noem. "For that matter, neither does Governor Noem, which is why she has provided her citizens with the full scope of the science and trusted them to make the best decisions for themselves and their loved-ones."

Read more: https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/13/south-dakota-gov-kristi-noem-wont-enforce-if-joe-biden-enacts-mask-mandates-lockdowns/6280673002/

[Lars39]

1. Then they can have the freedom to lose federal funding for roads.

[maxsolomon]

43. care to lay odds on that happening?

nt

[Lars39]

45. It's a cudgel that could be used if necessary afaik

[LiberalFighter]

2. Arrest her I say. Arrest her.

Call the National Guards out to her home and office.

What would be something to irk the hell out of her?

[Newest Reality]

3. Governor or Murderer? That's second-degree if done knowingly and with evidence.

[Squinch]

4. It's still important that he says the words. And also that he uses those governors of good faith

in states around the Dakotas to isolate the Dakotas. OK, go your own way, but don't take the rest of us out with you.

[Budi]

22. MN, a neighbor to both Dakotas are already telling them to stay outta MN, Please!

MN is stuck bordering both Dakotas, WI & Iowa Red States.
They do have friendly Canada to the north tho. 😕

MN should close their borders for their own safety.

[Squinch]

24. Definitely.

[Grins]

36. Not just the boarders...

Block all highways, and block all flights (commercial and private) into or out of the state.

[Budi]

42. Yup. I read a statement earlier today, saying :

"The last thing people should be doing right now is booking flights". Other than essential travellers, No One should be bording a plane anywhere through the New Year.

"The virus spiike & spread is out of control & our medical care is not capable of handling what is coming at us.

Shutting down, is the only attempt to slow it that we have left."


😕
That was about as direct a pleading as could be delivered to this country.

[Docreed2003]

5. Yeah...how's that working out for you guys in SD???

But but....freedumb!!

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. Close the SD borders. Nt

[brush]

14. That has to be considered. It's not as if people don't travel...

in and out of the state. If all these red state govs don't enforce mitigation methods the nation will never be rid of covid.

[DENVERPOPS]

31. Put them in a forced isolation and quarantine......

Neighboring states national guard blocking all roads in or out of the state.

Of course, the Feds would need to do that with ALL the red states, not just them.......

[grumpyduck]

7. What an asshole.

We don't have a clue how the pandemic will be going in late January, or what Biden will need to do, and here she's saying she'll refuse to go with something that may or may not happen.

Go eat shit, dumbass.

[madaboutharry]

8. These republican governors are responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

I don't know how they live with themselves.

This one, Gov. Snow Queen, is a particularly special kind of idiot.

[Doodley]

9. Create a system to track deaths and cases in non-cooperating states, compared to those who do, and

publicize those numbers to ensure that those who obstruct basic measures are held to account.

[Phoenix61]

10. Federal funds to rebuild the economy become

available when the infection rate is under 1. It would be immoral to fire up the economy when knowing that that will also fire up the virus.

[rsdsharp]

11. In 1957 Orval Faubus refused to integrate the Little Rock schools.

Eisenhower sent the 101st airborne and federalize day the Arkansas National Guard. The schools were integrated.

[nykym]

12. Station the National Guard

at all border crossings in the state and forbid anyone from entering or leaving for 14 days.

[LW1977]

13. Republicans are negligent Genocidal psychos!

Such evil

[yuiyoshida]

15. posting again

Link to tweet

[DENVERPOPS]

37. Simply put,

There is no cure for stupidity...........

AND

no cure for their stupid followers.......

The most fascinating thing I have noticed, is that without exception, they all feel that they have superior knowledge and intelligence to everyone else.......

[bluestarone]

16. And these fucking RETHUGS accused US, of DEATH PANELS????

We NOW know who the true KILLERS are!!! Fucking wake up America!!!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. Sure

That's why Soiuth Dakota has a more per capita COVID infentions than many urban areas.

[Orrex]

18. Then she's an asshole.

[world wide wally]

19. Arrest her for murder

Negligent homicide?

[RestoreAmerica2020]

20. Worldmeter shows S. Dakota with an increase of covid19 cases. When they start dropping dead

.like flies, then and only then will republic heed the warnings--CORRECTION when it directly affects Gov Noem's immediate family and herself, GOP their family members, then and still a big maybe will they heed warnings do what needs to be done to save lives. As for the citizens in their state [and country at large] .they don't give a fuck!

Worldmeter Last updated: November 16, 2020, 18:32 GM
United States
Coronavirus Cases:
11,418,073
Deaths:
252,075
Recovered:
6,957,491

From U.S. worldmeter Nov 16,2020
State. TotalCases NewCases TotalDeaths

37 South Dakota 66,278 +897 644
38 North Dakota 64,885 +1,089 743

[Aerator]

40. 3rd highest infection rate

South Dakota has the 3rd highest infection rate per million in the world behind North Dakota and Andorra .China has a rate of 60 per million while South Dakota has a rate of 74,919 per million.North Dakota’s rate is 85,144 .

[greenjar_01]

21. It's your funeral, South Dakota

I hope Illinois strictly enforces a two-week quarantine for anyone visiting or traveling from South Dakota.

[Dem forever]

23. Snow Queen

That’s what happens when you elect a bimbo Snow Queen.

[tinrobot]

25. That's easy. Just don't hand out any federal relief until they comply.

Make relief contingent on meeting certain standards.

We do it all the time for things such a s highway funds.

[George II]

26. Biden can play the same game that trump has been playing - withhold funding if they don't comply.

[BlueNProud]

27. Thats fine. If they choose to ignore it thats fine.

[hibbing]

28. "risen to stardom in the Republican party for her hands-off approach to managing the pandemic"

Just like their dear leader, the hands off approach is what they want. Like Chris Hayes has been saying for at least a week now, Republicans are actively promoting the virus instead of fighting it. She's next up in 2024, god help us all.

Peace

[rustysgurl]

29. Close State borders ...

No one leaves or enters the state ... period. They can live in their cesspool of disease and "freedom," and we'll see how long it takes for them to request aid.

Decisions have consequences. So far these Republican governors have suffered no consequences.

[NYC Liberal]

30. But they're not just making decisions "for themselves and their loved ones"

Their actions also endanger innocent people who are being as careful as they can be.

That’s why even Milton Friedman supported environmental protection laws (albeit through a tax vs other regulations), because a company spewing pollutants into the air or water affects third parties who didn’t consent to it.

[leftieNanner]

35. And they are also clogging up the hospitals

And endangering the lives of medical professionals.

[leftieNanner]

33. Actually, this would give us perfect evidence against her

Have all the states issue mask mandates (according to the President's order) and see their numbers drop.

And Kristi, along with the other idiots can watch their cases rise.

It's like that study that was done in Kansas (I think) where they had a number of counties issue mask, distancing, and hand washing orders and several counties that did not. It was therefore very easy to track the cases. Needless to say, the masked counties flattened the curve and the mask-less went up.

[durablend]

34. Build a wall around it

Fair is fair.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

38. Then Im sure theyll not want any federal aid FORCED ON THEM to assist with medical

infrastructure and support for essential workers.

thats fine - more for the rest of us !

[lonely bird]

39. Hey, Donnie wanted to not give federal aid to Portland or other "Democratic cities"

Well, maybe Biden says “fuck you” to South Dakota. Bye-bye federal dollars.

[cstanleytech]

41. I dont think Biden will try to order a lockdown because many Republicans would ignore it

much like how they ignored the warnings from varies health officials months ago on how to take action to prevent the pandemic from spreading.

[Budi]

47. He can order Federal facilities but not State.

Talk is, he plans to convene Govenors to set guidelines & limits. & honestly a resolution to the pandemic problems will have to come from the Govenors.
Meeting as a group, will give some power to those States who need a majority consensus to back up their policies.

This idea results in a 'strength in numbers', or a Union decision-making type of convention.

Bring them all to the table....Biden cannot do it alone.

[bringthePaine]

44. a grifting idiot, trying to put her brand on the state - an amateur who will be brought to heel

[ananda]

46. Remembering George Wallace..

.. Send in the troops.

[Oscarthegreat]

48. No problem

Don't allow any commercial flights to fly into and out of S. Dakota. Neighboring states should have road blocks that don't allow traffic out of the state. Prevent federal money generated in law abiding states that are actually trying to fight covid19 from reaching the state until they comply with the mask mandate. Stupidity should carry a price tag.

[Sloumeau]

49. Of course she won't enforce a mask mandate, because if Trump says mandates are bad, it must be true.

Governor Kristi Noem is a raging moron.

[LaMouffette]

50. A freedom-loving friend of mine thinks we should never have done ANYTHING to slow the virus.

If we had just let it "run its course," we would already be done with Covid.

Seemed like a callous disregard for human life to me, but to him it made perfect sense. And I fear that his fatalistic attitude is shared by the North Dakota governor and Trump's mask-order-defying death cult members.

I didn't argue with him at the time, thinking it would have been futile to try to change his mind. But I'm still trying to think of a way to get through to him. How can you reason with someone who is comfortable with the deaths of 4 to 5 million Americans, just as long as he doesn't have to wear a mask? (This particular friend does, actually, wear a mask when required to, but he is angry and resentful at having to do so.)

[PoliticAverse]

51. States are not subsidiaries of the federal government, a fact Trump may have learned...

when states refused to cooperate with the federal government attempting to enforce federal immigration law.

[Roy Rolling]

52. That's '60s talk

"We ain't integrating our schools, you'll have to force us."

And then the feds sent in the National Guard.

The End.

[SharonAnn]

56. But the refusal to integrate was a direct act AGAINST the Supreme Court decision and Constitution

[Chakaconcarne]

53. So be it... all he needs to do is send the message and set the example until we have the vaccine...

Those who don't follow may risk the political fallout.

[JCMach1]

54. Then she should lose all Federal healthcare funding

[usajumpedtheshark]

55. South Dakota is a net receiver of federal funds. It is also a state full of republicans who are

against "socialism" while relying on federal funds to keep the state running. They go nuts if anyone recommends reducing the size of the farm bill

[SharonAnn]

57. One of my total right-wing cousins in South Dakota is part of the SD virus vector, spreading it.

On a family email list my SD cousin said:"We saw hundreds of thousands of visitors this season from every state in the nation. Many of them extremely upset at their home city/state that was “locked down” &/or mandating masks. We are EXTREMELY grateful that our Governor did not declare our (or any) family business in So Dakota as “non-essential” as many of the power hungry/borderline socialist politicians in blue states. What right does a politician have to shut down & bankrupt hundreds of thousands of American businesses? Those employed in the public sector can say “stay home” and not lose their household income – the same is not true in the private sector."

So I sent my SD Cousin the the summary info from this article:
The Dakotas are 'as bad as it gets anywhere in the world' for COVID-19
Source: USA Today

She responded: "South Dakota has been open throughout the whole pandemic and we have been going to work every day throughout it too. The past 6 months, millions of Americans from across the country traveled to our state because their own state or locale was locked down. In their home states, hundreds of thousands of businesses were bankrupted by their politicians. Livelihoods were ripped away. All of our visitors expressed anger and frustration with how their cities/states dealt with this situation. Our state is an example of what living in a free society looks like. Every person & business was given the opportunity to adjust their life & practices in order to cope with COVID-19. The death rate of this thing is extremely low (Thank God) for approx 99.8% of our society. Everyone that I know that has had it, stayed home with very mild symptoms and was fine after a week or so. We in SD are not living in fear."

[angrychair]

58. Then don't allow them to export their sick

To another state.
The problem with Democrats constantly bailing out red states over and over again is these Republican governors and legislatures take credit and their citizens never learn their decisions have consequences.
Pull all federal funding of every kind.
Maybe Republicans will vote smarter next time when Democrats are not there to save them from themselves anymore.

[dem4decades]

59. Doctors and nurses should leave those shit states, I'm talking to you South Dakota.

[Omaha Steve]

60. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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