Michigan Secretary of State says the Presidential vote is certified

[grobertj]

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Source: Katy Tur at MSNBC

In a an interview with Katy Tur, the Michigan SOS said every county has certified their vote. There is no legal means to change a county's vote. Michigan is a done deal. Nothing to worry about there.

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[msongs]

1. no link to source nt

[vollehosen]

3. Not quite a done deal but it is correct that all counties have certified

Link to tweet

[Cha]

5. Rt.. TY vollehosen.. Good to know about

"No rescinding"

[lagomorph777]

10. Voters can't rescind - so GOP canvassers can't either.

So sad, too bad.

[Cha]

14. Monica Palmer has other problems, too..

Link to tweet

[True Blue American]

25. LOL

[Cha]

30. ..

[George II]

33. Inauguration Day!! How appropriate.

[Cha]

35. Oh wow. that didn't click before..

That Is appropriate! TY!

[heckles65]

41. Schedule the 'formal hearing' at 1 PM

[mr_lebowski]

2. I won't believe anything is a done deal until Biden steps up to the podium and puts his hand

on the Bible, etc ...

[IsItJustMe]

7. I have to agree

We have all seen and experience some real insane shit over the past four years. Things that none of us could have ever predicted and things we thought we would never see in this country.

I, like you, am going to wait until it is over.

[Cha]

4. Thanks but you forgot the Link..

[Kingofalldems]

6. Election 'Trump's gonna win' trolls won't like this one.

[kansasobama]

8. I don't think it is a done deal

The State Board of Canvassers still have to meet and certify. Republicans there may vote NO.

[MakeTXBlue2020]

9. They're not going against the will of the people. Imagine the backlash!

[kansasobama]

11. You are assuming Republicans have morals

Trump is directly calling legislature now.

[William769]

29. I'm reading the Speaker of the House & the Senate majority leaders of Mich.

Are going to meet with trump. This can't be good.

[HubertHeaver]

34. They are going to meet with Trump in the White House?

They are going to be exposed to Covid-19. If they are traveling via commercial air, the airlines should refuse them return flight.

[Marthe48]

42. Here is a link to that story:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/19/shirkey-chatfield-set-visit-white-house-amid-election-fight/3777657001/

[Kaleva]

12. The Michigan Board of State Canvassers has until Nov. 23 to certify the election

All counties have certified their results, now the ball is in the Board of State Canvassers hands.

[johnnyfins]

13. This is all well and good, but

Trumpo has invited REPUBLICAN Michigan lawmakers to the white house on Friday. He is trying to get them to appoint electors. I knew this asshole was going to try this. If they do this, and he somehow flips this election, there is going to be absolute chaos that this country has not seen since 1861.

[johnnyfins]

15. This is a fucking COUP. Plain and simple.

He is STEALING this election before our eyes.

[Tommymac]

22. Really?

You are all over this fear shit in multiple threads. What gives?

Know something the rest of us don't? Fess up we'd really like to know.

[johnnyfins]

26. I wish I knew something

I only know that we are dealing with mob boss mentality.

I posted a link to an article below. Give it a read.

[EndlessWire]

46. Please let the poster talk.

This IS peculiar behavior. It just is. We need to pay attention.

[patricia92243]

47. Obviously, Trump thinks it's a plan. Why else would he be inviting them

to the WH?

[kansasobama]

16. I have a strange feeling media is underestimating

This state board also has GOP canvassers. You are taking a big chance here. If those GOP canvassers go rogue (do you believe in GOP integrity?), this is a possibility. If someone can throw me some legal basis for why this cannot happen, I would feel good. And, so do many DUers. Can State Canvass GOPers vote NO?

[johnnyfins]

17. He doesnt care if they certify or not.

He wants the Michigan Senate to appoint their own slate of electors. Thats the ONLY reason to have them to the white house. I'm sure he has some dirt on one or many. Not to mention the wink and nod rewards that he'll promise. In short: C-O-U-P

[kansasobama]

18. I think media is sleeping

This assumption that we are the beacon of democracy and all that stuff have given them a false sense of security. The top man in the country and the Attorney General can do a lot of damage to democracy. I am with you johnnyfins. I am going to tweet the media.

[johnnyfins]

19. Do it K.O. I am not on twitter, but I'm thinking about it.

[johnnyfins]

20. We'll know immediately if he is successful in his endeavor

If he doesn't get what he wants from them, he will meltdown. If there is silence after the meeting. The COUP is happening. Fucking trash.
Now we know why there is an extra fence around the white house.

[Drunken Irishman]

45. There is nothing to get. The Michigan legislature, by state law, can't appoint electors.

They legally are not allowed to appoint any electors - theirs or otherwise.

This meeting will result in absolutely nothing. The only people who think it'll move anything are those who are naive to the actual state law or Trump MAGA supporters who are so down the rabbit hole they think he won the election by a landslide.

[EndlessWire]

48. You know what?

I remember that the Republican legislature in at least two states wrote a bunch of stuff when the voters elected a Dem governor. They sought to impede the Dem from governing.

What is there to stop them from changing their law?

[Kaleva]

50. Any new law needs the signature of the governor or enough votes to overide a veto.

Repubs in Michigan don't have the numbers to override a sure veto by Gov. Whitmer.

[subterranean]

51. They wrote those laws before the Dem governor took office.

That is not the situation in Michigan.

[patricia92243]

49. Why do you think Trump is inviting them to the WH?

[catbyte]

53. Delusion. Neither he nor the state legislature can do anything at this point. It's a done deal.

Michigan's 16 electoral votes will go to Joe Biden on Monday.

[Drunken Irishman]

44. This is ridiculous. You continually fearmonger.

The media isn't sleeping. They're just not going to report on every absurd, ridiculous conspiracy thrown out there by the left and the right.

The legislature has NO GROUNDS to appoint their own electors. It's NOT possible under Michigan State Law.

IT LITERALLY CANNOT HAPPEN.

[catbyte]

39. It can't be done. The electors have already been chosen. The legislature has nothing to do with it.

I don't know what they hope to gain by pulling this stunt. Michigan law is clear:

The Electoral College is comprised of 538 people, known as electors, chosen nationwide to meet in their home states and cast one vote per person for president and vice president. Michigan has 16 electors to reflect the number of senators and representatives it has in the U.S. Congress. Presidential candidates on the Michigan ballot submit a list of 16 qualified electors to the Secretary of State's Office. The 16 electors whose candidate wins Michigan's popular vote will participate in the Electoral College at the State Capitol in December.

Electors pledge to support the candidate they represent and may not vote otherwise. Michigan voters can be assured that all 16 Michigan electoral votes automatically go to the presidential candidate winning the popular vote.


https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716-27662--,00.html

[Marthe48]

43. Thank you catbyte

I keep thinking all is well and see a story like gop rats going to see impeached traitor and I get worried. I'm so sick of the crap.

[Sugarcoated]

21. The electors are already chosen

Republicans can't, and don't, appoint electors.

[johnnyfins]

24. I am going by this article

https://www.nytimes.com/article/electors-vote.html

Proving a "failed election" is quite a hurdle, but the word "can't" doesn't seem to apply to today's GOP. Just sayin

[Sugarcoated]

38. So many articles have scared people with these theoretical

scenarios. I've seen the lawyers/state AGs & SOSs shoot these things down over and over.

[johnnyfins]

40. I hear you

I'm not scared, I just know that if there is a remote possibility, this jerkoff will exploit it.

[Demsrule86]

32. He invited the two who have already certified.

[johnnyfins]

36. No. He invited republican lawmakers, through the majority leader

[catbyte]

37. The electors are already seated. They CAN'T change them now. It's against Michigan law. From the

MISOS website:

The Electoral College is comprised of 538 people, known as electors, chosen nationwide to meet in their home states and cast one vote per person for president and vice president. Michigan has 16 electors to reflect the number of senators and representatives it has in the U.S. Congress. Presidential candidates on the Michigan ballot submit a list of 16 qualified electors to the Secretary of State's Office. The 16 electors whose candidate wins Michigan's popular vote will participate in the Electoral College at the State Capitol in December.

Electors pledge to support the candidate they represent and may not vote otherwise. Michigan voters can be assured that all 16 Michigan electoral votes automatically go to the presidential candidate winning the popular vote.

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716-27662--,00.html

[Cryptoad]

23. Thank you Michigan

[RandySF]

27. The State Board of Canvassing meets next week.

[Yavin4]

28. And she had on a bad ass jacket when she did it as well.

Normally, I don't notice fashion, but her jacket was really nice.

[cheezmaka]

52. She sure did!

I thought I was the only one that noticed...

[Yavin4]

54. Ah! She's on Rachel right now. Still rocking the jacket.

That must be her "I'm not playing games" jacket.

[Orrex]

31. And the alleged current president is certifiable

[JudyM]

55. Locking

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