CENTCOM: B-52s from Minot Air Force Base sent to Middle East Saturday
Source: KMOT-TV
MINOT AIR FORCE BASE, N.D. (KMOT) - B-52 Stratofortress crews assigned to the 5th Bomb Wing at Minot Air Force Base conducted a short-notice, long-range mission in the Middle East Saturday, according to U.S. Central Command.
According to CENTCOM, the mission was intended to deter aggression and reassure U.S. partners and allies.
Read more: https://www.kfyrtv.com/2020/11/22/centcom-b-52s-from-minot-air-force-base-sent-to-middle-east-saturday/
C_U_L8R
(45,001 posts)'What's the point in having them if you don't use them'
He's going to pull all the switches before he's tossed out on his ass.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,585 posts)Hopefully there are generals who will refuse to execute an illegal order, or resign in protest.
jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)A little tired of the "Resigning in Protest" non-statements. There's been enough malfeasance and treason going round to merit removal of an executive and a few senators as well. Let the rules be designed to fit the facts but literally every rational person KNOWS this has grown beyond any justification. And, BTW, the inauguration is maybe too far off to prevent some really bad actors' playing out their roles. I mean, how did a freak like Stephen Miller EVER get within a mile of the oval office?
especially the Stephen Miller reference
groundloop
(11,518 posts)That removes a competent person from a critical position and allows tRump to fill that position with an unqualified imbecile who will do whatever tRump asks.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)soldiers follow orders. No matter how illegal.
Trump is going to attack Iran, 50-50 with nukes.
somaticexperiencing
(312 posts)CharleyDog
(757 posts)Now that he's aligned us with murderous dictators, who are we talking about here? (yes, I didn't read the article)
mahina
(17,649 posts)myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...trump's going to try to start crap to tangle Joe up...
...trump wants things to point to for a 2024 run...
...obviously...
Layzeebeaver
(1,623 posts)Along with a few fighter as escort.
I believe it was a show of support for each NATO country.
It was probably a pentagon only decision seeing as they didnt attack anything.
Tactical Peek
(1,208 posts)"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
Admiral Josh Painter, The Hunt for Red October
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)James48
(4,435 posts)With stops in England, and then on Diego Garcia would be my best guess.
Hes stirring up just enough stuff to try and declare he has to stay-
Thats my take on it.
They dont normally do press releases when B-52s go off to war. Somethings not right.
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)since Trump lost. That's why Pompeo went to Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the UAE, to get the OK to bomb the Iranian nuclear facility.
Yes he did say if we have nukes why not use them. Don't think like a normal person, Trump is insane and will try anything to stay in power. I had hoped that Putin would stop Trump since Russia and Iran are friendly but Putin can just sit back and watch WW III as it unfolds.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Even for dickhead.
Ponietz
(2,966 posts)gab13by13
(21,323 posts)It even says in your link that president Clinton violated the War Powers Act in Kosovo with no repercussions.
Ponietz
(2,966 posts)But Congress doesnt even have a colorable argument against calculated military escalation. Thats significant to me, at least.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)trump doesn;t give a shit and this is high on Stephen Miller's list to do
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)as his #1 goal.
marie999
(3,334 posts)It doesn't matter if we are at war or he declares martial law. Biden is our president on 1/20/2021.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)groundloop
(11,518 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)by creating another more dangerous mess. He pulled out of the Iranian nuclear agreement that ,while not perfect, was working according to our allies and our national security experts. In fact he could have strengthened an agreement and took a win but instead he ran from a new deal. New sanctions failed and Pompeo fell on his face before our allies.
Why did IT45 walk away from a new deal? The one thing It hates and fears the most is responsibility. Agreement in a negotiation means the responsibility for the success of the deal lies with the one who made it. It also exposes you to ridicule and IT45 lives in fear of getting the same ridicule he dishes out.
I think we are in a position where he would bomb Iran and that would do nothing but strengthen the Iranian hawks and cause an aggressive acceleration of their nuclear program. Yes we are in a time of immense peril with a supine GOP Senate.
Mosby
(16,306 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)As a not consequential point does not hold water. The USA abdicated its desire to negotiate at precisely the time it could have pressed its advantage. Pompeo issued ultimatums and vituperation but could not articulate a coherent foreign policy.
Your question is why is the UN security council not doing anything? My question to you would be why do you expect it to do anything when Russian and China are on the Council? Especially since the Iran-China 25-year Cooperation Program or Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between I.R. Iran, P.R China is an agreement on Iran-China relations was created on 24th June, 2020 in Beijing between Iran and China.
See China and Russia Have Irans Back
Tehran May Be Less Open Than Ever to Threats or Persuasion
By Jamsheed K. Choksy and Carol E. B. Choksy
November 17, 2020
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2020-11-17/china-and-russia-have-irans-back
In the end Trump has enabled more nukes not less(see e.g. North Korea). The Trump administration never grasped secondary consequences of actions because the foreign policy was ego and chaos driven, lacking reason and logic. But here is where he left us on Iran.
Blues Heron
(5,931 posts)assholes
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)There is nothing I would put past that POSER POS and it will escalate with each passing day. That fat POS needs to be in a straight jacket until Jan 20th at noon.
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)That's why he's staying close to the situation room over the holiday instead of golfing at Mar-A-Lago.
It's a last ditch effort by a cornered rat: Create such chaos that transition cannot happen.
"They can't force me out during a nuclear war" I'm a war president."
I'm sure the Commander of Clueless thinks there are "clean" nuclear weapons that the world won't mind him using, but he's wrong. The entire world will be at our shores to remove him themselves to protect the planet, something republicans couldn't see fit to do.
Hotler
(11,420 posts)jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)They could try the WMD hunt scenario patented by Bush/Cheney Inc. (just remembered, they're still at large too, ya know?)
Will be interesting to see how the 24/7 cable rumor mills gin up this version of "A road to travesty". Another opportunity to say "brave fighting men and women" over and over and over? Who'd want to miss that?
Pompeo declares war so Julius Trumpus will come out of his sulking closet. Ancient history in the remaking? Stay tuned.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)If you were going to use nukes - even tac nukes - there are faster, stealthier aircraft in the arsenal. B-52s suggests to me it's a heavy load of ordinance.
" (D)eter aggression and reassure U.S. partners and allies" means interfere with weapon building (duh) and make Israel and Saudi Arabia happy. Probably Turkey as well, come to think of it. Putin will publicly disapprove, but privately be happy that this will bring Iran closer and give him the chance to sell them more weapons. China will be displeased, but since the Trumpers dislike China, and see Joe Biden as a China ally, that suits them fine.
Keep in mind that bombing Iran tends to be popular with Americans over 50. This group feels that the US never got its pound of flesh for the hostages/embassy takeover, and has watched decades of Iranians burning flags and chanting "Death to America." My main surprise is that he didn't do this in October.
ancianita
(36,053 posts)If anyone has a more recent poll, please post it. This is the most recent I could quickly find.
Overall, Americans do not appear to have an appetite for another war in the Middle East.
They say it is more important to avoid war with Iran (45%) than it is to confront Iranian aggression (36%).
President Hassan Rouhani of Iran indicated on Wednesday that there remains a long-term goal of removing the American military from the Middle East, saying on Twitter that Our final answer to his assassination will be to kick all US forces out of the region.
Americans have worried that the situation with Iran could escalate.
More than two-thirds (71%) say this is likely, and about the same percentage are concerned about a possible war with Iran (73%), according to the poll conducted January 5 - 7.
While Republicans are less likely than Democrats and Independents to be very concerned about the likelihood of war, and less likely to say its very likely the current situation will lead to a bigger conflict, most still worry (58%) and believe a bigger conflict is likely (64%).
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/01/08/iran-poll
The Pentagon might be acting independently of Trump in using flyover reassurances, mostly for Israel, which could be harmed most by any sudden Iranian or American moves.
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)Normal training. I follow some folks who track the movement of military aircraft & there's nothing unusual about this. Some people seem to be worried about these flights but they're ignoring the 20 (?) other flights to other locations over the past several weeks.
I don't believe Trump even knew (or knows) this is happening, I don't think he pays attention to Air Force training flights.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)Would Putin want us to go after Iran??????? Would it benefit Russia in some way?
If the answer is yes, we know who Trump takes orders from, and it is pretty certain Trump wil do something.......